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[a green flag with a leaf stands above an utopian green city with vegetation and clean energy]
Greenists believe that the world should be a better place for green people, and everyone else too
[an orange fascist-looking star in a gear logo stands above a bleak concrete city]
Orangites believe that the world should only have orange people, and that all greens should be hung
[an orange character speaks smugly, in a bedroom that contains an orangite logo and a greenist/orangite flag]
Me?
I’m a greenist-orangite,
why do you ask?
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Green: “We think everyone should exist peacefully together.”
Orange: “We believe you should all be shot!”
This shithead: “Why don’t you two find a way to meet in the middle?”
Oranges could all get shot and Greens live peacefully together, instead of the extremist proposition by Greens for them both to peacefully exist together.
Person A: “2+2=4”
Person B: “2+2=6”
‘Centrist’: “Fellas, calm down! Can’t we compromise and agree 2+2=5?”Removed by mod
That’s pure skill. You are amazing at converting Ambien and whiskey to felonies.
Possibly the best turnaround for this exchange I’ve seen. Congrats.
150% is fantastic efficiency
✨(he/him) releveraging existing ambien/whiskey synergies✨
EU politics: “We promise to establish robust processes for developing a common agreement on the result of 2+2 and will reconvene to assess progress, in 2+2 years.”
EU politics: “2+2 = austerity policy, 2+3 = austerity policy, 2-2 = austerity policy…”
This person is literally saying there’s no difference between 5 and 6. They’re basically an orangite in practice, because math.
I’m socially greenist and fiscally orangite
Spoiler, orangites are also shit for the colorconomy.
The greenists would like to help the homeless and feed the needy after they block an industry and remove those dirty jobs, if only it didnt ruin the character of the neighborhood.
Greenists would open up newer green industries and create new infrastructure projects. With all the help being thrown around the might not even be people going hungry or ending up on the streets.
What’s an example of a green industry. The failed battery plant we threw billions at, or reselling Chinese coal produced solar panels?
Nuclear power, solar/wind/hydro/thermal? power, public transit projects, forest management and other ecological projects that can all create jobs.
Which battery project in particular are you saying is a failure? Can you provide a source for what makes it a failure?
I’ve heard recently that solar panels have been having breakthroughs that extend their useable-life.
I’m sure ramping up and subsidizing local production of solar panels could make it more eco-friendly. However, I’m personally interested in nuclear power, specifically getting thorium reactor projects going.
Is this outlined in a plan with feasibility at all, perhaps by a green party, it sounds like it would be an interesting read. Nuclear sounds good, and I know Brookfields Westinghouse does it already, I just dont understand how the other industry would outcompete China in manufacturing. They use coal to produce their solar and wind, and they have all the refining capacity. Which I’d also assume the material refining would need to be carbon free here to satisfy a green party, making us even less competitive in manufacturing green products.
It’s feasible by taxing corporations more, that’s the important part.
You don’t necessarily need to compete with China if your panels are made with more ethical and sustainable business practices. In theory you make a deal with your allies to buy yours because you went the extra mile to do it right. You’d want other goods in such a deal though if you want to take the pressure off of China because they are able to produce theirs via less sustainable practices.
On the grand scale, we’re pretty late in terms of manufacturing to compete with China unless we did something more drastic like convincing a lot of people to live and work in the US. We could be a bit protectionist about our fledgling industries if we want to scale manufacturing more, but that will bring some trading trade-offs with any countries that we don’t have a trade deal with.
Our economy is mostly service oriented because we did all this offshore manufacturing decades ago, but now workers have less access to manufacturing jobs although there is still room in the market for our manufacturing sector to grow.
This doesn’t hold, because it means you’re only accepting things if they favor yourself.
all greens should be hung
That’s a big ol grenis
Thanks for correctly understanding the plight of orangites.
And that kids is what “socially liberal, fiscally conservative” means.
Exactly why libertarians deserve less respect than the fascists they enable.
and the other centrists with em. every single person who works in a bipartisan manner across the aisle to push a fascist agenda is a fascist enabler.
this is any coorporation ever
Paradox of tolerance
Interesting because factions in Belfast use those exact colors.
I was going to say, this is why the Irish flag looks the way it does
Oh, because of the flag I thought this was a satire of anarcho-communism, since commie states massacred anarchists
I think it is? The only other ideology would be anarcho-capitalism (lol), but a star on a gear as symbology would seem to preclude that. All in, it’s not a very coherent comic.
Anarchists massacre themselves more than communists massacre them by enabling fascists in power, see my homeland Spain in the Spanish civil war. I wish we had had communists instead of Anarchists…
Not sure if a troll or just incredible brainwashed… try to pick a history book some time, because in Spain you had communists, and they LITERALLY decided to fight the anarchists instead of the fascists. The bolsheviks simply decided to outlaw all Spanish socialist organizations (it wasn’t the other way around) and sabotaged the antifascist resistance, and it’s the anarchists that enabled the fascists!? Fuck off mate.
I was used to commies saying the Nazis were going to kill the anarchists in Ukraine eventually anyway, so there was nothing wrong with the Red Army killing them first (after selling them to the Germans in exchange of a train ticket), but this stupid and shameful historical revisionism about the Spanish civil war is new to me, what a fucking deranged cult those tankies.ps: Don’t bother coming back with walls of text. Not gonna read nor reply.
in Spain you had communists, and they LITERALLY decided to fight the anarchists
This is one of those widely repeated things that coincidentally is never backed up by any numerical evidence whatsoever. Bolsheviks, per modern historical analysis, killed a total of less than 20 anarchists in the entire Spanish Civil War, and at least some of those because a spy in Nazi Germany called Harro Schulze-Boysen confirmed a Nazi plot to generate an anarchist insurrection in Barcelona to weaken the Republic’s defenses. You tell me to read a book: well, point me towards a historiographical analysis of the Spanish Civil War pointing out NUMERICALLY HOW MANY anarchists were actually repressed by the communists.
Not gonna read
Then simply tell me: which book can I read that details a numerical analysis of this repression, because I’ve asked several anarchists and never got a response.
The “communism” in anarcho-communism much predates these states.
Green people still elevating themselves above others though
This is why people justify siding with Orange. “They’re saying some lives matter more than others!”
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Man it’s sometimes awkward being an orange, those fucking orangites give us all a bad name, but now a lot of greenists think I’m one of them. It sucks because I’m a greenist but seeing a lot of hate towards orange people because of those orangists hurts a lot.
I know that there’s a lot of history of orange people oppressing green people but I feel that greenists hating orange people is hypocritical and antithetical to the belief system, but any time anyone says it’s not cool everyone jumps in going “just like an orange, saying ‘that’s not like me!’”. That stuff is even being used by orangites as a recruitment tool for young oranges, saying “see? They hate you!”. We greenists need to stop it but it’s so cathartic to some green people who have felt so oppressed by the orangites that they refuse to.
Greenists have the right idea, and I’m not going to stop being one, but seeing the same hate from my own side makes it hard.
“I’m an orange but want I green pussy”
Ideology is bullshit. Politics is primarily tribal, ideology is just a rationalization about why your tribe is better than the other tribe.
There are issues to be sure, but if you talk with someone about politics for 15 minutes you’ll usually find all kinds of ways their ideology is inconsistent and hypocritical… unless you consider that they’re just repeating the talking points their tribal leaders told them to say. The only consistency about politics is “my tribe good, other tribe is bad.”
This comic exemplifies that. There’s no actual issue being discussed, it’s just green vs. orange. You’re expected to agree with green, and hate orange. And have even more disdain for anyone that seeks compromise. Which green issues does the character agree with and which orange issues they agree with, there’s no discussion on any kind of issue. Unquestioning loyalty to the tribe is consider good, considering any ideas from outside of the tribe is considered bad.
It’s obvious to anyone outside the tribe how counterproductive it is to attack anyone that might consider ideas outside of the tribe. You cannot build a broad coalition needed to accomplish anything in this way. It’s so painfully obvious. Even as the other tribe grows it’s numbers by not being so judgemental, even as your tribe shrinks and is manipulated into helping the other tribe you don’t notice because you’ve been conditioned by the tribe to never question tribe.
So what are you saying about being a loyal member of your tribe? You’re just saying you don’t actually want to think about the issues, you certainly don’t want to discuss issues, and you don’t want to be effective. You only want to prove your status to the other narcissistic people in your shrinking tribe.
Tl;Dr: “ideology is tribal bullshit!” I repeat to the fascist militarized police as they force me to dig a grave at gunpoint
Least politically educated comment I’ve seen all week, and that’s saying a lot. “Ideology is bullshit” no it’s not. Being able to rally together behind common ideals, with common concrete goals and concrete policies to achieve such goals is actually a good thing. “I have no ideology” is not what saved Europe from fascism in WW2, and you’re not going to convince fascists not to shoot trans people just by telling them “give up your ideology”.
Political ideologies should be discussed extensively, and they consistently are, it’s literally the reason why leftist infighting is a thing. It’s precisely the “apolitical centrists” who enable all the horrors of capitalism, saying “I have no ideology” is simply synonym with “I don’t care if things remain as they are”, and in the face of fascism and ecological disaster this is a horrible idea.
Least politically educated comment I’ve seen all week, and that’s saying a lot.
But you fixed this by writing your comment.
You could have saved yourself a few keystrokes by just typing “no u” instead
You could have spared us much more by refraining yourself from posting your comment, yet here we are.
Everyday I go on here and see people attacking the politcal opposition to the fascists, people creating distrust in the free press, and pushing for violence.
If you had any kind of education in politics, you’d understand who it is that’s creating the kind of atmosphere fascism thrives in.
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My dad is orange and my mother is green.
Yes, my father is orange and my mom is green. That means I get my solar panels from a forced labour camp.
