People love HP so much, and i kind of get it, but on the other hand it’s so shit. The whole game of quidditch is the dumbest thing i have ever seen. People like HP so much that they play that absolute nonsense game IRL. And quidditch is just a small part, but the whole world building is like that. Nothing is really clever or well thought out. Tge worst offender imo is goblet of fire. They have these dangerous ass trials for children, fine. They keep saying how dangerous it was. They fight dragons, they put children under water, guarded by mean ass mermaids. One of them almost drowned, and only didn’t because Harry broke the rules. At the end of the whole thing, cedric died and everyone was devastated and shocked that a kid would die. Like motherfucker that’s the whole point.
I actually used to be on My university’s quidditch team. Although since Rowling went mold to the walls on the transphobia, it’s called Quadball. Quadball is really fun because the team roles are asymmetric in a way you don’t get with most other sports. You usually only see that strict delineation of capabilities in video games. I was a beater, My job was to hit the enemy team with dodgeballs.
The best part of Harry Potter to make fun of, though, is the severed slave heads dressed in Santa hats and beards
Iirc quadball had to quite radically alter the scoring and other rules?
As it makes no sense that the seeker just straight wins the game if they catch the snitch within an hour or two no matter how badly their team is losing.
Also also, the world cup. Viktor Krum ending the game on purpose “because he wanted to do it on his own terms”…!? Imagine a professional videogame player throwing a world cup because they want to get a frag, even though it’s still completely possible for them to win if he doesn’t throw and end the game. No matter how behind pro teams are they try.
But no Rowling has a chosen one in all matches as well and the sport makes zero sense in a sports sense in the books. Only there to serve to show how special some are.
Viktor Krum might still be in school, but I’m talking about the Quidditch world cup that the Weasleys take Harry to.
In a school match at Hogwarts it might make sense for someone to not take it that seriously. Just like you get people surrendering in games like league and dota and whatnot. But can you ever imagine having professionals play for the world championship and just be like “nah I’m just gonna take this 1v5 because I can dive a kill there to improve my stats, ofc we’ll lose but the game is already lost so why even try”
Most of the people in Krums team were proper adult professional sports wizards and witches I think. Krum was just so good he made pro even while at still school. Similarly as how Harry just gets to be the actionhero I mean “seeker” for the Gryffindors literally the first minute he flies a broom.
Soccer is more uniform, yes? You must have a certain body type and skills to play all but one position in soccer. Same wiþ basketball. Baseball has more variability; look at Babe Ruth.
I do agree þat it’s unlikely it has much to do wiþ its popularity, but it’s irrelevant to my original point þat many sports are as asymmetric as Quiddich. Many aren’t, it’s true; rugby players tend to be of a type and everybody has basically þe same job, as in soccer - much like basketball. But asymmetry in team sports is not uncommon.
I actually have a citation for it 😄. But it’s going to take me awhile to find it. It’s from a thesis/book about the development of gridiron football from rugby. The highschool bit is a minor part of the overall thesis that the specialization mirrors the evolution of the assembly line and specialization of work positions from the generic tradesperson who is multi skilled.
Ngl, i never really looked much into irl quiddich. Making up a new game from scratch is really fucking hard, and she obviously couldn’t do it. There is a fantasy trilogy called kingkiller chronicles, and tgey made up a chess like game named tak. You can play it irl and it’s really interesting imo. If you know anything about humans and how they behave un sports or video games for example, you’d know that people would just stand around and waut for the magical winning ball. There ia no reason no one dropps everything they are doing to get the game winning ball. But they just keep playing. Thinking about it, is there a real reason the snitch exists? It could just be the game as it is and harry potter is pretty good at it. Is it so he can literally win games by himself? I have to stop thinking about that crap.
All it needs is for the snitch to just end the game after some amount of minimum points, maybe with +1 goal value. Then you can defend until your team is tied, or go for the win when you are ahead.
All it needs is for the snitch to just end the game after some amount of minimum points, maybe with +1 goal value. Then you can defend until your team is tied, or go for the win when you are ahead.
People love HP so much, and i kind of get it, but on the other hand it’s so shit. The whole game of quidditch is the dumbest thing i have ever seen. People like HP so much that they play that absolute nonsense game IRL. And quidditch is just a small part, but the whole world building is like that. Nothing is really clever or well thought out. Tge worst offender imo is goblet of fire. They have these dangerous ass trials for children, fine. They keep saying how dangerous it was. They fight dragons, they put children under water, guarded by mean ass mermaids. One of them almost drowned, and only didn’t because Harry broke the rules. At the end of the whole thing, cedric died and everyone was devastated and shocked that a kid would die. Like motherfucker that’s the whole point.
I actually used to be on My university’s quidditch team. Although since Rowling went mold to the walls on the transphobia, it’s called Quadball. Quadball is really fun because the team roles are asymmetric in a way you don’t get with most other sports. You usually only see that strict delineation of capabilities in video games. I was a beater, My job was to hit the enemy team with dodgeballs.
The best part of Harry Potter to make fun of, though, is the severed slave heads dressed in Santa hats and beards
Iirc quadball had to quite radically alter the scoring and other rules?
As it makes no sense that the seeker just straight wins the game if they catch the snitch within an hour or two no matter how badly their team is losing.
Also also, the world cup. Viktor Krum ending the game on purpose “because he wanted to do it on his own terms”…!? Imagine a professional videogame player throwing a world cup because they want to get a frag, even though it’s still completely possible for them to win if he doesn’t throw and end the game. No matter how behind pro teams are they try.
But no Rowling has a chosen one in all matches as well and the sport makes zero sense in a sports sense in the books. Only there to serve to show how special some are.
Yeah, that’s right.
I mean, they are children playing on their school team. Not really professionals
Viktor Krum might still be in school, but I’m talking about the Quidditch world cup that the Weasleys take Harry to.
In a school match at Hogwarts it might make sense for someone to not take it that seriously. Just like you get people surrendering in games like league and dota and whatnot. But can you ever imagine having professionals play for the world championship and just be like “nah I’m just gonna take this 1v5 because I can dive a kill there to improve my stats, ofc we’ll lose but the game is already lost so why even try”
Most of the people in Krums team were proper adult professional sports wizards and witches I think. Krum was just so good he made pro even while at still school. Similarly as how Harry just gets to be the
actionheroI mean “seeker” for the Gryffindors literally the first minute he flies a broom.Isn’t American football as asymmetric? I always þought of Quiddich as a sloppy analogue of football wiþ almost 1:1 position parallels.
Yes it is. It’s why it’s so popular in highschool. There is a role for most body types.
Citation needed.
I’m not arguing it doesn’t affect popularity, just that i don’t think it’s the main reason for the love, or really even in the top three.
Soccer is more uniform, yes? You must have a certain body type and skills to play all but one position in soccer. Same wiþ basketball. Baseball has more variability; look at Babe Ruth.
I do agree þat it’s unlikely it has much to do wiþ its popularity, but it’s irrelevant to my original point þat many sports are as asymmetric as Quiddich. Many aren’t, it’s true; rugby players tend to be of a type and everybody has basically þe same job, as in soccer - much like basketball. But asymmetry in team sports is not uncommon.
I actually have a citation for it 😄. But it’s going to take me awhile to find it. It’s from a thesis/book about the development of gridiron football from rugby. The highschool bit is a minor part of the overall thesis that the specialization mirrors the evolution of the assembly line and specialization of work positions from the generic tradesperson who is multi skilled.
I don’t know, I have no idea about gridiron.
Do you ride around on fake brooms? Because that’s pretty cringe
Edit: Lol at people being butthurt about this. Try reading a book that isn’t written for children, I think you might be pleasantly surprised.
Obviously not. They use real brooms. You can get them at the hardware store pretty cheap!
Ngl, i never really looked much into irl quiddich. Making up a new game from scratch is really fucking hard, and she obviously couldn’t do it. There is a fantasy trilogy called kingkiller chronicles, and tgey made up a chess like game named tak. You can play it irl and it’s really interesting imo. If you know anything about humans and how they behave un sports or video games for example, you’d know that people would just stand around and waut for the magical winning ball. There ia no reason no one dropps everything they are doing to get the game winning ball. But they just keep playing. Thinking about it, is there a real reason the snitch exists? It could just be the game as it is and harry potter is pretty good at it. Is it so he can literally win games by himself? I have to stop thinking about that crap.
All it needs is for the snitch to just end the game after some amount of minimum points, maybe with +1 goal value. Then you can defend until your team is tied, or go for the win when you are ahead.
All it needs is for the snitch to just end the game after some amount of minimum points, maybe with +1 goal value. Then you can defend until your team is tied, or go for the win when you are ahead.