Ken Martin flat out lied about why they weren’t releasing this report, and attacked people who criticized him over it.
He has to go, and not just him.
His interview with Jon Favreau on Pod Save America was the absolute worst. It sounds like the guy did a great job in Minnesota, but whoever showed up for that interview that day is someone I want nowhere near power. And yeah, now we’ve confirmed what we suspected, the whole time he was talking down to Jon he was lying through his teeth. I agree he has to go.
Hands down the most frustrating thing I’ve ever listened to. I wanted to shut it down so many times. Jon did pretty well pushing back at him but I really wanted him to push harder whenever Ken said “we gave you lessons” and tell him he’s conflating morals/conclusions with lessons. Lessons come from learning from a past event and you can’t do that without knowing the background. Also wanted him to say more explicitly that asking for blind faith was bullshit.
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Guess it didn’t come up :\
Might be a hot take, but I think regardless of her or the DNCs position on Palestine she had already lost.
It’s very stupid to not have analyzed it in a report like this, but also literally like, what difference did it make
I really think as much as leftists want it to be Palestine, it’s really the same reasons that 2024 was a bad year for incumbents globally.
Possibly. I think there is something to be said for pushing away every politically active young person in your base and how that impacts your “ground game”, and failure of the ground game is something they do touch on.
The autopsy concluded that so-called “identity politics” don’t resonate with white male voters. The report noted the success of Trump’s attack ads, particularly the anti-trans spots with the kicker, “Kamala is for they/them, President Trump is for you.”
“If the vice president would not change her position—and she did not—then there was nothing which would have worked as a response,” the report asserts.
Fuck these ghouls
No wonder Democrats lose. The inclusion question and the GQPedos targeting groups is the easiest fix in the history of fixes, but Dems keep getting it wronger and wronger. The answer is not to make more exhaustive lists of the groups they want to help, which invariably leaves people out, it’s to say “everyone”. Any stupid questions about [insert targeted minority group], answer “everyone should feel and be safe”. This is an easy fix and they’ll taking 18 months to wiff on the answer? We’re in trouble.
Who the fuck cares anymore.
America already surrendered to tyrants.
Surrendered?? Wtf are you taking about? Things are dire out there, but there is a resistance. Get off your damn couch & join it, out build it if you have to
I would like to believe you are correct, but all I’ve seen is some sternly worded letters and people hanging out in the park with signs. Neither of these is much of a resistance. No answer to Project 2025. Nothing but a death by inches defensive approach politically. The Democrats selling out voters at every turn and calling it decorum or similar. It certainly looks like we’re cooked.
Yeah most politicians are fucked, we knew the DNC was worthless the second Biden announced he was running for reelection. It’s the people’s resistance you have to look for, which I think you can count the election of Mamdani as part of that resistance. The DNC tried to run accused sex predator Cuomo against him & the voters said hell no & elected Mamdani. & Mamdani has done anything but sit on his hands like members of the Democratic Party are doing.
No matter how much Trump scares you about the Antifa militia, it doesn’t make it exist.
Wow… What a train wreck
I didn’t realize it’d be possible for it to be even more vapid and feckless than I expected…
Don’t worry, folks…AIPAC had a chance to go through the data first, and they found nothing wrong with the conclusions made in this report.
10/10 AIPAC approved.
We really need ranked choice voting
Ranked choice voting allows for multiple choices and parties and candidates
Approval voting system is better. Ranked choice is certainly an improvement, but it still incentivizes inflammatory and polarized politics and can still result in the candidate that is desirable to the most people losing (even being the first to be eliminated). But anything is better than the current First Past The Post system.
yeah, I agree
Why? Where do you use that anywhere else in your life
How often do you vote?
Almost daily.
Dems: we released this report in order to make sure that you could trust us.
Also Dems: we investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong. It’s your fault for not voting for us.
But continue to believe the blue lies and don’t dare step out of line. Because I’ve just been told since my vote doesn’t count because of where I live I shouldn’t be in any political discussions.
And here they are acknowledging it was a poor investigation.
I seriously doubt this was prepared during the time they claim it was. It seems like a bunch of nothing words with a strict no mention of anything the left has been talking about being the issue. It’s like what you’d get if you asked a chat bot to prepare an almost 200 page document about why it wasn’t any of these things while being careful not to mention any of those things.
Former leadership appointed a single guy to write this report with no real academic resources, so it really just reads as that guy’s opinion.
I would buy that it’s just an out of touch loser’s opinion, but what kinda screws that up for me is that they didn’t even discuss Biden’s age or* cognitive issues being a significant factor. Anyone alive and* paying attention during the time, even someone who only watched morning Joe, would have mentioned that.
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It’s not a fair argument because Trump is also old as fucking dinosaur shit and has even worse lifestyle and habits.
They’re competing with the couch, not just Republicans. Couch sitters basically always have higher standards of Democrats than they do of Republicans. In fact, the entire electorate and media infrastructure have higher standards for Democrats. It’s fine to disagree, but I feel like that’s just being purposely obtuse for why it’s not in the report. Ken Martin and Ken Martin’s “friend” fucked this up royally and even liberals are pointing that out. Why the cope?
Also couldn’t let this slip by either: Ken Martin commissioned the report, NOT his predecessors.
There’s no way the DNC could stop sniffing its own farts long enough to provide any kind of meaningful analysis of its own actions
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New DNC leader realizes that it’s delusional bullshit and decides not to release it.
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Progressives demand it be released anyway.
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“It does not meet my standards, and it won’t meet your standards, but I am doing this because people need to be able to trust the Democratic Party and trust our word,” new DNC leader says.
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Lemmy idiots blame new DNC leader anyway.
I am pretty sure that the majority of that sort of anti-DNC opinion here on the fediverse are far from progressive, especially on Lemmy, because there is a large Tankie and foreign psyops presence which wants to radicalize people and sees the DNC as an enemy to their cause.
There might be a few progressives against the DNC’s leadership lately, but there are just as many “progressives” who support militaristic dictatorships whomst promoted and enabled the second Trump presidency in the first place.
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Discissions of this are so completely over-serious… We’re looking to breakdown nuance in an autopsy document and the guy who “won” is telling reporters, “Your face is dumb, okay? And to tell you the truth it very actually looks like how a butt looks. You’re a real nasty bitch woman for saying a face like that. My uncle you know, he did face, a genius they said even probably, but your face… bitch face. [Wet fart]”.
We’re a failed nation, it’s a hard reality to confront, but it is reality. The freightened idiots feel untouchable, this won’t resolve with reasoned debate with strong citations.
Civility is already lost, by definition the Democratic party won’t do the law breaking required to compete with this disaster. And that probably means the only win wouldn’t fell like a victory at all, because we’d have to stoop so low. The only candidate that might compete today is someone who breaks into the white house ground and writes, “trump kisses my balls” on the walls in his own shit. America is captured.
Dems wanted their own lil epstein files to not release, then release edited bullshit
Really really really disingenuous to compare this to the Epstein Trump Files. Like the peak of false equivalence. “Being out of touch on the cause of voter abstinence is literally the same as raping and murdering children” like bro wtf are you on?
No homie, just the files, they didn’t wanna release them, nit talking about whats in them, no shit Sherlock over here Also it was an obvious joke but I guess some kids still need the /s 🤷♀️
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