To any outside observer it looks like Iran has won this war, complete with reparations from the US.
I’m sure Israel will blow this deal up though.
Iran won the war when they dint bend like venezuela did in the first hours of this nonsensical operation. There is nothing the USA can win out of this confict, they are just losing power everywhere…
they underestimated that iran can FIGHT BACK, and they stockpiled tons of missiles, venezuela was practically defenseless.
israel/trump/benjamin has a vested interest in keeping it going. it keeps netanyahu out of jail, and trump out of the epstein files in the news.
Yeah, does anyone think Iran will stop suffering?
Sadly no. But having just their government to deal with, instead of being squashed starved and slaughtered between the two is a minor improvement.
I’m not even convinced USA and Israel won’t find a way to make them suffer. Both seem to love genocide.
All states do ultimately. Unfortunately too many states have far too many cheerleaders.
No, the people of Iran are between a rock and a hard place.
But I think people can maintain a cause in defence of themselves longer than the US can maintain their offensive.
The US just hit critically low oil levels where it’s impossible to continue depleting them. They’ve reached low enough levels using pipelines are threatened by being able to maintain pressure.
The US now has to decide if they want to lose internal oil transport and shut down infrastructure. All right before midterms.
who started and is continue this conflict: USA and israel, just to keep epstein out of the news. iran is no saint, but they arnt the aggressors in this conflict.
Agreed. And innocent Iranians will continue to suffer.
To any outside observer it looks like Iran has won this war
The war is won by either side only when Iran inflicts a permanent defeat on its enemies, or it ceases to be a functional state. Any deal in between, if it even goes through, will only postpone the resumption of the war, as it has been for what, about the last 45 years.
Bibi is already pummeling Beirut
American here. I haven’t heard the claims, but they’re likely true if Trump is upset.
Did you guys know he raped kids?
Yeah, there’s these things called the Epstein files. They’re pretty shocking, but his followers care more about what’s in all our fucking pants. Just like him, they’re also perverts. They want to see our genetalia before we enter bathrooms. Sick fucks.
Did you guys know he raped kids?
I heard some of those raped kids ended up dead. Some beaten. All raped. https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1qtyb43/epstein_and_maxwell_buried_2_girls_strangled_to/
Court testimony was that some of them ended up beaten due to trump not liking them during sex. One bit him so he pulled her hair and punched her in the face. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/doj-releases-epstein-files-containing-sexual-assault-allegations-against-trump
2 died from “rough sex” by testimony of one worker at zoro ranch. Dug up graves were found when they looked for bodies.
Also, there were hundreds of rape victims, and about 22 have died publicly since the story broke. And trump still walks free.
they just want to make sure their victims don’t have more balls than they do.
According to leaks to Iranian media the draft includes a reconstruction which will result in Tehran receiving $300 billion to rebuild its cities. Also included will be the release of $24 billion in blocked Iranian funds, half of which must be paid to Iran before fresh talks start.
Damn, that’s an Israeli level supply of foreign aid.
Art of the deal
For a monday
is benny boy happy hes not getting that aid.
Are Americans happy they’ve been put in a position their leadership has to pay either instead of your hospitals? or school funding? or, god forbid, housing and food security for your multitudes of poor?
No one here has brought those up as possible alternatives. Extra money will never go to helping people here, because half the country thinks they are temporarily embarrassed royalty.
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All American presidents are weak bitches. From Latin America and the rest of the world: fuck that entire fucking empire.
But the tan suit
I really don’t understand why they dislike the tan suit.
It’s a nice painting.
Very dishonorable people to deal with.
Pot, meet kettle.
Acting honorably around Trump is raw stupidity. The same is doubly valid for Netanyahu.
It is impossible to verify the draft agreement, which the Mirror has been given, because it could be a Tehran bid to combat the lies about settlements uttered by Trump.
Even the mirror is calling all sides as lacking credibility, fucking hell if that’s not an indication of how fucked this whole situation is…
So this technically means that Iran won, right?
If the leaked details are remotely accurate (they’re consistent with previous leaked drafts, so they do sound credible) this is a total capitulation on the part of the United States.
I wouldn’t consider it a win if they get paid merely the damages caused - they did lose lives after all. But also, if true, Magastan didn’t win anything.
Art of the Deal.
considering they dint have any major losess despite all those airstrikes.
The president keeps straight up lying and saying the deal covers the nuclear issue, even as Iran says it doesn’t.
This deal won’t hold even if it’s reached. As if our president could say no to Israel when they restart hostilities. This thing won’t end, it just remains to be seen if Iran is willing to accept lebanon being turned into gaza and attacks against Iran and their people while still keeping the straits open.
This will go on forever, peace deal or no.
Until conservatives lose control of the US.
Don’t be so sure. Trump has tipped the US’s hand and shown them to be weak as piss. It’s going to be pretty hard to walk back from here now since Trump has ruined all the soft power the US had around the world, and now we all know the military aren’t up to the task either the US will no longer hold a position of power at the negotiating table. Trump has completely and utterly fucked the US globally.
Can you imagine Iran embarrassing the US weekly in the 1970s? They wouldn’t have dared. But now most of the world is laughing with them as we watch Trump shart himself to death.
So Obama merely released Iran’s own monetary assets in American banks that we had frozen, which Trump attacked relentlessly, as recently as last week, but now he’s going to PAY them to repair the damage HE caused?
He won’t be able to rationalize these concessions, so once again he will kill the deal, and blame Biden.
He won’t be able to rationalize these concessions
As if his supporters needed any “rationalization”.
No, they’re cool with it, but they have to have a story that everyone sticks to, no matter how outlandish.
For example:
We need everyone to verify their age and identity on the Internet, so that children will never learn what human genitalia look like, NOT because they want to track our every move, and identify every single statement we post on the Internet.
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According to news headlines, Trump has exploded AND melted down this week.
I wish it were true.One day…eyeing the nice scotch bottle
eyeing the cardbord box full of empty scotch bottles
When?
3.6 Roentgen.
No kidding, that fucker can’t even do that right.
The Fart of the Meal
Please get him so angry his fatty-food hardened heart finally quits
Art of the deal, everyone
Deal implodes Monday and Bessent makes a few million. Tune in next week for more market manipulation!
This assumes the people making these trades are gullible enough for market manipulation. Most likely they’re just going along with this because it benefits them.
The article says solving the nuclear issue is not realistic in 60 days, I think it is. Trump will propose to reinstate what Obama obtained, with his name sharpied over.
Dissonance has never been an issue for the American right, but it’s going to be harder for Iran or Israel to accept that.
