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      The datacenters that largely received State tax exemptions, and only need a skeleton crew of people to operate. So they’re not even contributing to the local economy.

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        Not the economy of the 99% anyway. I worry for the future of the world with these fucking things. Countries needing money are going to allow these to be built when companies throw enough money and lobby governments. The damage they will do to the environment will be tragic. So many are going up so quickly with not a thought to how they affect the area they’re built. From what I have seen they consume massive amounts of fresh water and heat the air around them venting into the atmosphere. This is surely going to have lasting affects on the earth (if enough are built). The AI bubble is just inane, its money laundering at the grandest scale and it needs to be stopped before its too late.

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          Not to mention their water consumption. They consume a family of 4’s year worth in water every hour. It is insain. It’s not like most of the world doesn’t have a water crises already.

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            Is the water recycled, fed back into the source or does it just float around the system or is evaporated into the air? I’m basically imagining a water cooled PC, but one million times the size.

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              A lot of them are using evaporative cooling, because it’s easier to build. So that water, which is being pulled from our already dwindling sources of fresh water, is single use and gone.

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        They contributed to the economy of whoever we voted for, apparently. Other than bribes I’m not sure why you’d allow this.

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    I greatly appreciate articles, in which statements are rephrased and reused 3 to 4 times, to really get the message home. Really, I truly value articles that reinforce their key points by restating them in different ways—three or four times—so the message really sinks in. What I especially enjoy in articles is when the main ideas are repeated and rephrased multiple times—three or four instances, to be precise—because it ensures the message is thoroughly understood and deeply ingrained.

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    Wonder how those cheap construction Texas McMansions with the huge foyer and high ceilings will fare. Some of the largest power bills I ever had were from when I lived in Texas, and that was in a pretty small place.

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    They are saying our utilities are projected to go up 40% in the next five years. My electric bill is already getting close to $400. I am wondering how I am going to pay when it is close to $600 as money is already tight.

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      400??? Holy fuck. Are you running the AC with the windows open? Or is your house 5000 sq ft? You need an energy consultant more than anything. How much insulation do you have? And no, a paper towel stapled into a wall doesn’t count. I’m also taking a wild guess that your windows are single pane from the 60’s and don’t close all the way?

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        Lol I don’t even use it for heat or cooling. 10 people live here and it is a big house with 5 bdrm and 3 bath. We live on an island and have to pay diesel surcharge to maintain a diesel power station in case the hydro power fails. We also have a water pump which probably adds to it.

        My heating fuel has been as high as $700 in one month in winter. A friend pays over a thousand because their house is not insulated properly.

        That is why it is scary when they talk about rates going up. I am already making hard decisions about what to eat. There isn’t wiggle room for continuous rate increases. We will obviously find a way, but it sucks for sure.

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          Not OP.

          That sucks. Especially having to make poor people financial decisions, you often can’t afford to make changes that will save you money in the long run. Been there done that.

          Still, there may be some things you can do to save electricity.

          Cheapo line meter. I use one on my well pump. It shows usage over time. You can figure out what’s using the most juice. It does 200v as well as 110 and clamps on. Does have to be wired in to for it’s power supply and ground.

          Also, Kill-a-Watt clones. $9.99. Shows you how much plug in things use.

          Offhand things that might help:

          • Hot water heater on a timer and turn down the thermostat. There wil be bitching.
          • If you have an electric stove, inductance stoves are supposed to be the most efficent, but you probably can’t afford one. Electric kettles for boiling water probably beat using a stove to heat water.
          • Use a kill-a-watt to figure out what is using juice when appliances/TV/PC/etc. is on standbym
          • Check freezer temp, it may be colder than you have to have it, turn up the thermostat.
          • Check anything with a motor that plugs in with the kill-a-watt, like box fans to see if they’re pulling too much juice, when the motor bearings get shitty, you’ll pull more over coming friction.
          • Use that clamp meter to check things like whole house blower fans, bathroom fans.

          Good luck.

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    So many people just turn on the AC without doing anything on preventing heat in the first place. Things you can do before the AC needs to help:

    • open all windows in the morning when it is cool. Close them when it gets hotter. This traps the cool air inside.
    • shade your windows (those overhang things on windows, tint film, curtains, plant a tree)
    • stop using machines that produce heat (oven, vacuum cleaner, dryer, etc)
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        OK, fair point. I was a bit naive. I was looking at it from an European standpoint. The nights are cool here and the houses are all made of bricks and very thick insulation. In those circumstances it is possible to trap the temperature. In my house the inside temperature is currently 22C/71F and outside 34C/93F. No AC needed.

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          Ah yeah let me check my thermometer after a whole night of ventilation… yeah it’s still 27, down from 28 last night whooo. And this is my bedroom which is towards north.

          European living in a “temperate climate” here. A decade ago, I didn’t need AC. Temperatures over 30 happened for a few days at a time a couple times per summer. Heatwaves that killed old folk with sustained temperatures over 35 for a week happened once a decade.

          Now it’s the norm. We see temperatures in May that would only have been possible in the peak of August in the mid-2000s. We see temperatures over 35 everyday for weeks at a time. When it finally rains, it doesn’t cool down anymore. It just gets unbearably humid. Temperatures at night don’t fall down below 28 after a few days.

          Even worse. My living room, home office and kitchen are in full sunlight the whole afternoon. I can live in the dark, but the walls have a thick insulation. Insulation doesn’t deflect heat, it stores it and slows it down. It’s literally accumulating heat as soon as a single sun ray touches it. Once the heat creeps through, they stay hot and radiate for a week. You could ventilate all you want, you can’t fight the thermal mass of a wall heated through its core up to 45C.

          Climate change transformed my mild-winters, warm-summer region into a rainy-winters, unbearably hot summers region in a few decades.

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          I was looking at it from an European standpoint.

          Nah, I’m in Europe too and my external thermometer last night recorded a minimum temperature of 26,6°C, it’s on the wall so real temperature was probably 25. My apartment is at the last floor of an old building, so insulation isn’t good…

          My roller shutters (external, real European ones) and awnings are automated to maximize airflow and reduce sunlight exposure, but in August my AC never turns off.

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      For this bad advice I am sentencing you to spend a full summer in the rural American south, where it’s 38 C with 100% humidity in the middle of the night, with no ability to feed yourself other than baking bread and cooking. I’d love to see you eschewing your dryer to hang your clothes out on a clothesline, in air that has more water in it than the wet clothes do.

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        It is like when I tried the travel advice to wash my clothes in my hotel room sink. Well in East Asia the humidity is so high and the AC in the rooms so weak that my clothes would just be soaking wet in the morning. I think that only works if you are vacationing in, say, Arizona.

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      Your comment made me laugh.

      It’s practical advice for the naive, who live in temperate climates. Those with actual inhospitable summers are just not having it.

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      AI too. The power to build out all those datacenters isn’t coming from new generation unless it’s methane belching shit like X’s colossus and that’s just offsetting the shitty garbage into the atmosphere instead of your power bill. And Trump is very much neck deep in AI, crypto and all the attendant bubble garbage.

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    I wanted to install solar when I bought my home.

    The home I ended up getting had a beautiful oak tree probably several hundred years old. Which is directly blocking most of my roof on a small lot.

    Not much sun to be had.

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    Yeah, I have tried to keep my central AC off as much as possible. My power bills over the past year have been insane.