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    Mullvad co-founder Daniel Berntason donated 452k euros to the fascist Örebro Party in Sweden which made up 72% of the party’s total funding in 2025. This political party wants to deport non-white citizens and immigrants guised under the white nationalist euphemism “remigration”

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          You know that’s the least credible source and literally, as biased as you can get. A self proclaimed “Socialist newspaper”.

          How did we go from “don’t believe everything you see on the Internet” to “i’m gonna believe this is true because it says so on this website!”?

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            Eh, a cursory glance at their proposed policies is more than enough to convince me they’re fascist. Ethnic purity, ending welfare, rejecting non-classical art, rejecting international alliances, and for some reason making all kids eat red meat daily.

            All of those things are either directly fascist or closely associated with modern fascist culture wars.

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              That’s entirely possible. I don’t agree with everything he says, and I’ve since learned from reliable sources of various disgusting comments made by him in person. But I’m still not going to use “Flamman” as a reliable source. They are not a reliable publication. And they are not taken seriously in Sweden.

              It would be a bit like taking what “FOX News” says about US Democrats as a reliable source of unbiased information.

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                Fox News May be known for their opinion segments, but their journalism team is actually competent, and their polling teams are some of the best around.

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                  I’m sure they are. But you would look for other sources to confirm or deny. Because you know they are known to be biased.

                  “Flamman” however is closer to Alex Jones Info Wars than FOX News. Minus the peddeling of protein shakes or whatever it was

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            I trust socialists way more than I trust capitalists. Socialists want to liberate the world, capitalists want to enslave it.

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              You do you. But I wouldn’t trust anyone on the sole basis that they claim they subscribe to a specific ideology. That has to be the dumbest shit I’ve heard today.

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                But I wouldn’t trust anyone on the sole basis that they claim they subscribe to a specific ideology.

                Almost as dumb as rejecting someone based on their ideology alone? Or do you have any resources to prove their journalism is biased apart from that “they are socialists”. You have been out here for days shitting on this news paper “Flamman” that you yourself have admitted to hearing for the first time

                Nor have I ever heard of this publication “Flamman”, that also claims to be some old socialist newspaper.

                You have not presented a single source as to why they are biased apart from them being “socialists”. You have also been going around trying to shit on other resources as much as you can, blaming people of not providing enough resources and saying things like “misinformation is how propaganda spreads”. These are all applications of the “accusation in the mirror”.

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                  Sure. Have i rejected something on the sole basis of someones ideology? No.

                  The fact they are a political publication means by definition that they’re biased.

                  If they weren’t, they’d be politically neutral.

                  It’s sad, that this has to be explained to you.

                  I did indeed hear about them for the first time recently, and the more i learned about them. The worse it got. They’re not considered reliable

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            Remigration is ethnic cleansing, basically going further than what Trump and ICE is doing in the USA right now. You don’t need to know more about them.

            The other side of this is that Sweden is now 8.1% Muslim. It’s inevitable that people get fed up with this. No matter if it’s right or wrong, people hate it. Especially when the economic outlook is grim.

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              That is a very strong statement. What’s your source of them wanting to achieve an ethnic cleansing with forced deportation of Swedish citizens? Taking steps that go beyond Trumps ICE.

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                  Yikes. I followed the sources listed and yeah, the dude is legit unhinged. Not only for what he wants, but that he also thinks it’ll be possible.

                  Things he suggest and wants require changes to the constitution. And changes to the constitution takes more than 4 years as it has to span over the next election cycle and be voted on (again) by the following elected government.

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        They explained why they dont pay for audits in a forum post and I agreed with their reasoning, which if I remember correctly was something like:

        If we paid for an audit, there’s no way you’d know we didn’t enable logging, etc, right after the auditors left.


        It really is just a game of trust when it comes down to it and they feel the most trustworthy to me, but if lack of an audit changes your mind that’s okay.

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          What of theirs is written in C?

          Eg: You buy a sub and just connect through wireguard. You aren’t touching any AirVPN code (unless you want to use their client, which is not written in C, but you can just use the official wireguard client or any other tool to connect).

          Same goes for any provider as far as I’m aware. Am I wrong?

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              Maybe I misread your comment, I thought you were talking about AirVPN vs Mullvad.

              Anyways the C code in that repo looks like it’s just libraries they have vendored in, not specifically stuff they are writing (which a lot of apps do, but usually dont include directly in their repos), but I could be wrong didn’t look that hard.

              And you can still always use a different client (I know you can with AirVPN, I assume ivpn is the same).

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          Ah yes, because Rust is Holy and everything must be written in it or it’s inherently untrustworthy

          No thank you.

          – Frost

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      I have read so much into Mullvad thinking that I did my due research however companies can hide their skeletons pretty well before they surface.

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      I’m an AirVPN shill cuz I like their service, but if you take a look and like it too, you will save a bit of money compared to mullvad :)

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    Feels like you can’t turn over any rocks these days without seeing fascists scuttle off back into the darkness.

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    Just installed grapheneos last week and saw IVPN in the Accrescent store. Seemed interesting as I am running low on mullvad time. What a fun synchronicity

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    So let me get this straight. One of this companies CEOs donated a huge sum to a bunch of fascists, so now people are switching away from the service. Won’t that only hurt the staff and make people lose a excellent service, as if the CEO is wealthy they’ll be virtually untouched?

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        Pay money to <random-corp> - > <random-worker> gets part of that money, through their paycheck - > <random-worker> funds fascists - > fascists are being funded with “your” money

        It came out that he was using his personal money from his pay, and not directly off the expense sheet of the company. To that end, when does it stop being “your” money. If you were replace that with “VP”, “Manager”, or even “random tech” is it still your money at that point?

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          The amount between worker and CEO is orders of magnitude different. And it doesn’t matter that it’s his private money. It comes (partially) from me. Therefore if I use the service I feel partially responsible. A couple percent of every euro I’ve ever given them, went to funding that party. So I will use a different company, where that doesn’t happen.

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          Your point is really valid however as there is no clear lines, so people will have to draw their own.

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        so should I stop giving £20 to homeless people on the street here and there because a fair portion of them run immediately into the off-license for alcohol? by your logic I’m essentially funding their drinking habit not just giving a guy on the street money.

        have you ever heard of the Orebro party before this or even know any of their policies? just jumping on the tribal bandwagon even though let’s face it a private donation to a local Swedish party barely actually affects any of us on here. A VPN is basically an internet bouncer do you ask the security staff at live shows their political ideology? nope it would be pretty asinine.

        i was under the assumption the Fediverse was supposed to be better than Reddit whole lot of the same all or nothing tribal takes.

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    Stop, think! Who really is to gain by getting people to not use a long time trusted VPN…

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    Friendship ended with… wait,were did VPN Area go?

    Aw fuck. He died while I wasn’t looking.