• Beacon@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    111
    ·
    9 天前

    I have never encountered this situation. I literally am not even sure what situation it’s describing

      • edible_funk@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        8 天前

        Eh, I’ve lived a fairly sheltered life but I’ve been at a half dozen, maybe a dozen total parties and gatherings that had casual nudity and sometimes sex. Being in your twenties and going out much at all back in the late aughts, it wasn’t hard to find groups like that.

    • stickyprimer@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      8 天前

      Oh… there are some clothing optional situations in life and for the most part nudity gets very normal very fast but there can be moments when an attractive woman is conspicuously putting her attractive self on parade and just daring you to notice. It’s like a clip from some mating dance on the nature channel somehow pasted onto humans.

      • Axolotl@feddit.it
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        8 天前

        This specimen of Homo sapiens, commonly known as a human, despite already having a lifelong partner, struts in front of another male to show off and make fun of him; the reasons why this happens are not yet clear, but it seems to be a way of causing trouble, which some individuals find pleasing and arousing.

        [Advertisement break]

        BUY OUR NEW PRODUCT!! DELICATE TENTACLE CREAM 2000 – NOW SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN TOO!

        Warning: this product may cause side effects, some of which could be serious, to your anal cavity. Please take care and keep it out of the reach of the elderly.

        [End of Advertisement break]

  • FishFace@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    87
    ·
    9 天前

    “why is she being weird, this is uncomfortable”

    I once knew someone fairly exhibitionist. I consider myself relatively immune to bullshit and once spoke to her about it and how it was a bit rude to make other people uncomfortable for your own gratification, but she didn’t change what she was doing.

    (She never hung out naked, it was just stuff she said or how far she and her bf would go when out with all our friends.)

    • onthesolivine@fedia.io
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      62
      ·
      9 天前

      yeah this kind of stuff needs consent from everyone or you’re just making people uncomfortable and that’s not fun or very nice

      • FishFace@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        30
        ·
        9 天前

        I think there’s a real selfish mindset to it: people who do this like using their sexuality to get a reaction, even if others don’t enjoy it. They like “making a man hot under the collar” or watching someone try to decide whether to say something, or then feeling superior because they didn’t name the violation of social norms.

        I kinda get the other side: if we were more open about sex and nudity it’d save a lot of grief. But I think you can tell when someone wants to do that versus when they get a power trip from sitting around with their tits out, because it’s done in smaller ways.

        • potoooooooo 🥔@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          8 天前

          even especially if others don’t enjoy it

          Seems like the fundamental premise of the joke/meme? It sounds weirdly like getting off on violating others’ boundaries.

  • feeling sorry for lots of the people in this thread and their prudish mindsets

    i’m queer and in seattle so casual nudity is pretty normal here, we even have a whole beach for it! i go tits out at bridge raves and pride and other stuff all the time and nobody cares. and half the time i’m wearing see-through tops with no bra! like… sometimes you’ll be hanging out and some people will just be naked and it’s fine. most of my friends have seen my nudes i post on mastodon! it’s good and fine and okay. it’s only weird if you make it weird

    • did_you_find_violets@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      32
      ·
      9 天前

      oh, i’ve always found it kind of funny, actually.

      the fediverse/lemmy have a very progressive demographic, but they can also be surprisingly prudish when it comes to anything sex-related, especially when it’s coming from a female perspective.

      after being on here for months, i’ve somehow been branded as “the horny poster,” even though most of my posts aren’t explicitly horny or freaky. they’re more observational, almost diaristic, in the way they approach these kinds of topics. for example, i don’t find this post horny or freaky at all.

      • Noobnarski@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        27
        ·
        9 天前

        I’ve never seen you post something that is not related to sex in some way, so yeah you are definetly a horny poster for me.

        I don’t mind though.

      • did_you_find_violets@lemmy.worldOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        15
        ·
        9 天前

        and don’t even get me started on the “mark this as NSFW, please” police patrolling around here, lmao. (the tamest post you can imagine.)

        • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          11
          ·
          edit-2
          9 天前

          Ehhhh, I can understand people might hold a pretty large safety margin for “will my boss be OK with this”.

          Edit: did some profile stalking. None of that is remotely nsfw, screw those people.

    • UntimedDiffusion@piefed.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      9 天前

      I’m not comfortable with people hanging out naked around me and no amount of your “feeling sorry” is going to change that

      • Paddzr@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        9 天前

        Especially since I’d wager most of it IS sexual and their fantasy. No one just casually decides it doesn’t bother them and then actively goes out of social norms unless they really want to prove a point or it’s their kink… ergo, they very much do care.

        • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          9 天前

          And the wrong glance or stray word and they might fly off the handle accusing you of sexual violence when it was their choice to be casually naked into front of you in the first place.

          Looking isn’t violence, of course, but that won’t stop them from accusing you of victim blaming with a sarcastic “wHaT wAs ShE wEaRiNg?”

          I’d be uncomfortable in the same way I’d be uncomfortable if someone were to force me to play russian roulette.

        • edible_funk@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          8 天前

          Buddy like half the world bathes together normally. Imagine being so porn brained that you can’t conceive of casual non sexual nudity.

          • Paddzr@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            8 天前

            Yet these people aren’t in ‘that’ half of the world nor are they coming from it, are they?

            • edible_funk@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              8 天前

              That doesn’t really respond to my point. If casual nudity is uncomfortable to you, that’s a you problem. If you think nudity is inappropriate by virtue of being nudity you’re a fuckin prude and can quite frankly shove off.

        • UntimedDiffusion@piefed.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          8 天前

          No, I don’t, which is why I would be uncomfortable if I was hanging out at my friend’s house and his “fling” was just chilling out naked. Especially if she was enjoying making me and anyone else around uncomfortable

          • edible_funk@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            8 天前

            Jesus context is fuckin difficult with this lot. Lemme break this down for you here; if op is naked around fling and fling’s friend, fling is the kind of person who clearly doesn’t have issues with casual nudity, therefore would not likely freely have friends over if those friends weren’t ok with casual nudity. Like, it’s fuckin implicit by virtue of having tits out. Apparently none of you have ever seen public nudity. It’s not a big deal. Nobody cares except for perverts and porn-brained internet shut ins.

            • UntimedDiffusion@piefed.zip
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              8 天前

              What does OP’s nudity have anything to do with fling’s or fling’s friend’s beliefs?

              it’s fuckin implicit by virtue of having tits out

              So, just to be clear, by your logic, if I was at a hangout with, say, my friends and their girlfriends (all of whom I can tell you would be uncomfortable with nudity), and I just whipped my dick out and started chilling naked, it would actually be chill because

              it’s fuckin implicit by virtue of having tits dick out

              • edible_funk@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                8 天前

                If your dick is already out when your friends come into your dick out space then yeah, that’s on your friends. Y’all can’t understand context if it whipped its dick out in public. Fling has company over while op has tits out, ergo fling and op are comfortable with casual nudity and aren’t concerned about friends seeing tits. If you’re uncomfortable about casual nudity in someone else’s space, that’s on you. This isn’t complicated but all y’all motherfuckers keep imagining situations where ya get to be the victims of gasp witnessing casual nudity.

                • UntimedDiffusion@piefed.zip
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  8 天前

                  You keep going on about context. What context? OP doesn’t give any context, only that she is naked around other people who are obviously uncomfortable about it and wondering what they thinking. How is this supposed to be interpreted in any way other than OP putting other people in a situation they do not want to be in?

                  We are not imagining scenarios where we get to be victims, we are trying to explain to you that we would not be comfortable with the situation described, and despite you saying it’s not complicated, you attack us and call us prudes. Also, the person being referenced in OP’s meme is a victim, no imagining about it

          • edible_funk@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            8 天前

            Y’all have dick for media literacy. Nowhere does the meme imply that op was getting a kick out of making everyone uncomfortable. If anything the meme implies she was oblivious to it, not intentionally doing it to get a reaction. Y’all are so out of touch you genuinely can’t imagine someone just preferring to be naked in a safe comfortable space. No wonder none of y’all are having kids, you’re afraid of fuckin nudity.

      • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        ·
        9 天前

        See, there’s a difference between “Yeah I’d rather keep my clothes on” rather than telling other people “You should keep your clothes on in your own house with friends who are also comfortable being naked”.

        • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          11
          ·
          9 天前

          This isn’t at her own house though. Her fling’s friends are around, so chances are it’s at her fling’s house.

          I mean what if I as a man were to decide to hang out naked at “a fling’s” house when her friends are over and I didn’t ask any of them if they’d be comfortable with me taking my clothes off? Suddenly the situation seems different, right?

          This is just the same old casual minimization of men’s concerns when their boundaries or consent is being violated, because “You’re a man so you should just shut up and enjoy this. Consider yourself lucky to bask in the presence of my feminine nakedness.”

          • edible_funk@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            8 天前

            Not really, I’ve been in that situation. Her buddy said nice dick, people laughed, that was that. When I got across the room to where my clothes were I got dressed. You might just be a prude.

            • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              8 天前

              Okay, I’ll just start hanging out naked around people who didn’t agree to see my junk, and if anyone feels uncomfortable I’ll call them a prude. We’ll see how that goes.

              Your anecdote about a few people who happened to be pro-nudity doesn’t change that. The same situation could’ve landed you in jail and registered as a sex offender if your audience happened to be different.

              • edible_funk@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                8 天前

                No it couldn’t when you’re in a private space. Plenty of people have seen my dick because they came into a space where I was free to have my dick out for whatever reason. Never had an issue. Are you autistic or just really bad at social cues? This isn’t complicated. There’s times and places that nudity isn’t inappropriate. Private spaces are one. Have you ever seen in person the opposite sex naked? It’s not a big deal.

                • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  8 天前

                  There’s a difference between “I’ve been naked with another adult in a mutually consensual situation” and “oh haha, let me just hang out naked to make people uncomfortable so I can laugh at them.”

                  Did you not read the OP?

        • horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          9 天前

          So in the same vain you think it would be acceptable for the protagonist of this meme to start cutting themselves as an act of self-harm infront of other people? Or took a shit in the living room? No matter if it made the observers uncomfortable?

          My point is that there are things that make people uncomfortable and they are socially conditioned. There is a line over which you can pass in that you are harming others.

          • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            10
            ·
            9 天前

            Imagine trying to equate comfortable nudity and accepting one’s body to “YEAH BUT WHAT IF THEY STARTED CUTTING THEMSELVES NOW WHAT!?”

            What a weird reach. Just admit you hyper sexualize nudity and get it over with.

              • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                4
                ·
                9 天前

                What belief system? I am comfortable being naked. I find other people who are also comfortable being naked. We share being comfortable being naked together. We are not naked in front of others who are not comfortable with themselves or others being naked.

                It’s not hard, bro. I’m not gonna drink booze in front of a recovering alcoholic. I’m not going to tell war stories to someone with severe PTSD, and I’m not gonna be naked in front of someone who isn’t in on also being naked.

                You do whatever you want to do. I’m not the one judging here. I have a partner who loves being naked and I love being naked with. We have friends who also love being naked who we all spend naked time with.

                Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.

                • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  ·
                  9 天前

                  We are not naked in front of others who are not comfortable with themselves or others being naked.

                  I’m not gonna be naked in front of someone who isn’t in on also being naked.

                  That’s not what this post is about.

                  Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.

                  Sounds like something you should tell OP…

                • horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  8 天前

                  Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.

                  I think that is one thing the original post is missing and I am suggesting is necessary.

            • horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              8 天前

              It’s all about context. Deliberately exposing yourself without consent to someone could cause similar harm.

              Up until the above comment, that is what the commenter was implicitly arguing, that it was fine to force your nakeness on others.

  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    38
    ·
    edit-2
    8 天前

    If your hanging about with your junk out I’m looking. If you don’t want me to look put your pants back on.

    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      23
      ·
      9 天前

      Used to have “Naked Tuesdays” with another couple we were friends with years ago. Just the four of us hanging out naked watching TV, maybe some other things happening. If you weren’t looking at anyone else, why even bother?

        • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          8 天前

          We always just got together on Tuesdays. Worked best for all four of us and work schedules.

          I don’t really remember how it started. I think one day was just really hot outside and our apartment was cool, but me and the other guy took our shirts off. The girls got all jealous and took their off, and it just went from there. Every Tuesday after that was them arriving then clothes coming off.

            • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              8 天前

              My partner and I walk around often enough just naked. We live on a farm now with 14 acres and really no one around us.

              We’re getting our deck expanded with a little bit of privacy from the road, so soon we can sit outside naked.

  • adarza@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    35
    ·
    9 天前

    probably something like:
    dontgetcaughtlooking…
    dontgetcaughtlooking…
    dontgetcaughtlooking…
    zomg!!!
    ihopenobodysawme…

  • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    33
    ·
    edit-2
    8 天前

    I actually find this gross, I’m assuming the roommate consented or else your are no better than the guys who flash people naked under a trench coat. But if he did, and he’s obviously so visibly uncomfortable, I can’t imagine as an empathetic person continuing to make them uncomfortable.

    Even if them being uncomfortable was because they were trying not to make me feel uncomfortable. I can’t imagine the meme switched genders people would be so cool about it. I guess i could say if a pig has wings it would be a bird, but this is gross. Sorry.

    It’s funny cause I just got mad at someone for saying something fucked up to a shitpost, but this doesn’t feel right at all.

    • mpramann@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      8 天前

      Maybe first ask for context before getting so riled up?

      Not everyone on this page has the same cultural background as you. In Germany for example it’s quite common to be naked at the beach/lake. Not everywhere obviously but common enough that a lot of us are not bothered by nudity as much as other cultures.

      • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        8 天前

        They posted the context, the person i hope they got consent from is trapped on a boat with them. Making escape impossible from possible discomfort. It’s even worse, it’s a fucking captive audience to torment. Again, I hope there was consent, I’d imagine that still exists in Germany. And again, as a human who’s aware of my effect on other people, I’d imagine they still have empathy in Germany, I wouldn’t want to make a person uncomfortable for my own benefit, that’s selfish and weird, and if it was a dude it would be fucking sinister. Because it’s a girl in the meme, people in the thread are answering with their pants around their ankles.

  • Yosmonkol@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    9 天前

    Something similar happened to me while playing catan at a friends place and it was pretty weird. One of the sublets we didn’t know very well had a new lady friend over ever month. The lady of the month walked into the kitchen in just panties and asked what we were playing. She obviously didn’t get the response she was hoping for and left with a disapointed look on her face. We all wondered if she was hoping to fluster a bunch of “virgin nerds” like some corney early 2000s movie in order to stroke her ego.

  • Brainsploosh@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    29
    ·
    edit-2
    8 天前

    Wow, the comments in this thread are surprisingly bad, even for a shitpost.

    Having been in the situation myself, my thoughts were very much “let’s not make them uncomfortable” (meaning feel sexualised), but the first times (as a young’un) it got stiff enough (not that way :p) that the person chose to break the tension. Just don’t be weird about it and everyone can be comfortable.

    There are plenty of situations and contexts where nudity isn’t sexual, and I highly recommend getting comfortable with that distinction. I find people and groups of all genders to become a lot more safe with that skill.

    • FishFace@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      20
      ·
      9 天前

      I think we can say with confidence that the OP is not doing this just because it was a bit warm. If that were the case, they wouldn’t be posting about it like this.

      Social norms are what they are. If you want to break them, it’s better to do it where everybody’s on the same page. It’s also better not to be enjoying making people uncomfortable, as in the situation described here. That’s immature and selfish.

    • Nastybutler@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      9 天前

      There’s a double standard here. So it’s okay to make the people around you uncomfortable by being nude/topless, but not okay for them to make you uncomfortable staring?

    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      9 天前

      Okay so I’m just gonna chill naked as a man and if any women who happen to be present feel uncomfortable then I’ll politely inform them that a naked body is not inherently a sexual object and that they have toxic attitudes around nudity and a lot of weird hangups that they love to project onto others…

      We’ll see how that goes…

  • Blurntout@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    9 天前

    Nawh that’s their face after they peep the plug 😂 We talking sun tanning or suggestive nude yoga while maintaining small talk?

    Spread eagle staring contest sounds like a hilarious gangbang opener

      • Blurntout@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        9 天前

        `crushing my super freak violet theory cold.

        Homies gotta chill then lol if it’s on display and you’re not making uncomfortably long eye contact with them just daddy chill lol

        Also real pervs know sunglasses are the casual gawkers cheat code 😂

    • xkbx@startrek.website
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      35
      ·
      9 天前

      “Guys, I gotta take a HUGE shit. Also, I might be a while because I’ll be furiously masturbating.”