• BigMacHole@thelemmy.club
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    This is DISGUSTING! TELLING people about how Israelis RAPED you is ANTI SEMETIC!

    -Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer!

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      This is a country that proudly raped prisoners in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay.

      It’s a country that believes prison rape within the state system is part of the punishment for criminality. Literally “don’t drop the soap” used as a threat aimed at people accused of crimes.

      Old enough to remember how D.A.R.E. officers would recount sexual assault in prisons as a means of scaring people off drug use. Americans deeply and indelibly believe in the power of corrective rapes. It is embedded in our culture.

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        I mean, the only reason most of the founding fathers have descendants is because of the rapes, so its pretty much a founding principal

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        Previous boss was a Coastie that was deployed for prison duty. I made a lot of snide rapist comments when I was pissed at him.

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    Israel is the country of rape, torture and genocidal mass murder. That’s its reputation in the world now, and we all see it clearly.

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      industrial scale pedophilia too. And making a sport of shooting hungry kids in the head as they play in the dirt in rags.

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    Because they lost every last shred of humanity. Has been a while since that happened to a whole country…

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        People forget this but Israel was founded with Genocide. Against Jews during the holocaust, yes, but also against Arabs in the region during the Nakba, so that the Zionists could carve out their ethnostate. This is not new behavior for them. They’ve literally been doing this for decades.

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          Most of the Zionist immigration actually occurred before the Holocaust. In fact, the Zionists were actively refusing Jewish refugees because they would have “tainted” the movement.

          https://palestinenexus.com/articles/eugenicism

          From the late 19th century through the 1950s, Zionist leaders adopted a selective immigration policy designed to exclude ‘undesirable’ Jews.

          Menahem Sheinkin described them as “miserable paupers, depressed and patched up, with bundles like rag-merchants, the poorest of the poor, who could not possibly be a blessing to the country.”

          By the early 1900s, an office was established in Jaffa to screen Jews hoping to settle in Palestine. Menachem Sheinkin and Arthur Ruppin reviewed application letters sent from prospective migrants and told 61% of them not to come, primarily because they were too impoverished.

          I sympathize with those who suffered due to antisemitism over millenia and during the holocaust. But I have zero sympathy for fascist colonials who created founding myths based off the suffering of others that they actively turned away.

  • ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl
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    Pissrael Nazis literally raped Palestinian civilians with dogs. This happening to flotilla activists is par for the course. If they had been Palestinian women their fate would have been much worse. This is all well known stuff - the most moral army in the world uses rape as a weapon.

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    Israel should have handled that way more elegant. See theres just a bunch of teens on a boat, seize it, invite them to some kind of PR Dinner with a diplomat of some sort and deport them home with a huge handling fee. Treat them nice with a fat bill. Sun Tzu would be proud. Instead they do this…

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      IDF used dogs to torture human beings with rape. Your fantasizing about a more sane but still evil Israeli state is very telling; that you see no issue with misrepresenting the adult floatilla activists as teens to try to discredit them in contrast to a genocide regime when that simply implies the IDF raped teenagers shows how morally numb, if not complicit you are in this discourse.

    • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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      Yes, they could do that. Why didn’t they? Is it because Israeli citizens actually expect their government to torture and kill people?

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    “Rape” she means strip-searched.

    Edit: To be clear: That doesn’t mean it’s not bad. I just wouldn’t call it rape. Illegal strip-searches are bad.

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      The third time Anna Liedtke was subjected to an illegal strip-search in Israeli detention, female prison guards forced her on to her knees, covered her mouth to stop her screaming and raped her…

      The victim and the article distinguish between the already-illegal strip search and the sexual assault.

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      When she refused, guards pulled off her clothes, groped her and forced her to kneel. One of them inserted her fingers into Liedtke’s vagina and then her anus, Liedtke said.

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      To respond to your edit: rape was accurate, even with the pretense of a strip search. Do not tell us what she meant. You are trivializing what happened to her.

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      Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me you didn’t read the article:

      "Israeli law defines rape as all non-consensual penetration.

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      When she refused, guards pulled off her clothes, groped her and forced her to kneel. One of them inserted her fingers into Liedtke’s vagina and then her anus, Liedtke said.

      “There were two and then later three female soldiers that told me to take off my clothes,” she said. “They started touching me. I said no. I told them I don’t want to be touched and that they were hurting me. Then they grabbed my hands, so I couldn’t move, then they pushed me down and I still tried to scream, and then they covered my mouth so I couldn’t scream.”"

      That meets the legal definition of Rape under Israeli law.

      Even in cases, like Trump in New York, where it only becomes sexual assault:

      https://www.courthousenews.com/narrow-focus-on-rape-definition-wont-get-trump-a-new-trial/

      “The finding that Ms.Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’” Kaplan wrote. “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

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    State sponsored rape and murder, but if you phrase your criticism of Israel in the wrong way, instant censorship in the west.