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    Voters do. Democrats don’t. This is a voter issue at this point and framing it like a political party is gonna come save you is why people are apathetic.

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      the democratic party will actively try to eff us over like they always do. We have to hold them accountable for their actions or we may as well just let AIPAC openly run the party.

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    Democrats will likely win but then they’ll remember who holds their purse and the billionaire Epstein-class will tighten their grip on us plebs even more.

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    No. The last chance was 2024. They lost. That was the last fair election. There is no way that the fascists have come this far and gained total control only to give it up because of an election.

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    Why does anyone think there are still chances left?

    edit: to clarify, I mean there are no more chances to “halt the erosion of US democracy”–it done eroded already. We’re starting over now. The only thing we don’t know yet is whether the coming elections will be free and fair. If they are, we can start rebuilding with a new movement to replace the old failed parties. If not, other steps will wind up being taken, one way or another.

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      Honestly this reply is a solid way to put it, there’s a lot that can’t be said until it’s time to talk about it. It does come down to November and if we have elections that are fair it should be a sweep. We’re seeing already in smaller red districts huge flips, so if its anything but a totally blow out something was going on. My guess is Dems stopped saying what they’re going to do so a plan can’t be made against it, everyone just locked in held their ground and shut up. Couple more months, america in the balance, somethings gonna happen either way. The most important midterms I’ve ever seen personally.

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    Democrats are complicit. They have no motivation for the bulk of the citizenry to win.

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        My only concern is the money musk is pushing for the right. Money equals votes and always has, the dnc refuses to help anyone not establishment. I hope the money won’t matter, but I think it will.

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          We’ve seen quite a few time that Musk has ended up spoiling votes. Because he did quite a good job tanking his own rep with the DOGE BS last yeast.

          Money can’t trump voters when voters are paying attention.

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            Fucking thank you. For the left, we are voting for our opposition. Either party will fight us but the democrats at least will kinda listen at least some and can be influenced. The fascist wouldn’t even give lip service and in fact will create laws to jail the left and crack down on it even more.

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          yes, It cant possibly be the DNC centrists fault, who have been in charge forever. Its dem socialists who are to blame. Why did Omar and AOC do this to all of us?

          /s

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            Zohran is part a reformist caucus within DSA. Like explicitly reform through electoralism and liquidation into the Dems party apparatus.

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              You’re confused. I’m about as far from a zionist as you can be, and that comment I wrote wasnt zionist. Look at my comment history and show us all the zionism you’re seeing.

              edit: or yes you can just downvote your ally and run away, also fine.

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    Lets give the DNC football to Lucy. This is for the game, folks. It’s all up to Charlie Browns kick.

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      Nothing at all, but the progressives, the Democratic socialists, and the greens and everyone else who is fighting tooth and nail in the trenches against the far right extremists and chuds are giving it their all

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        And the Democrats are not going to let them win. At best they’ll Co opt the progressives until they’re ineffective, and at worst, they’ll extinguish the progressives’ flames.

        I’m appalled at how people still think voting for the Dems is an option.

        Start a third party.

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        You may be forgetting that Biden sponsored the start of the genocide. Tens of thousand were murdered through his support. Its painful to hear and I’d love to just blame it on the republicans, but aipac utterly owns both parties and pretending that isnt so just keeps us trapped in this forever.

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          Yeah, I’m not defending the democrats. I’m just saying the reason they have support is they’re perceived as not as bad as the nazis and it’s really fucking tragic that America is at that point where all a party has to do to get support is be perceived as the only viable alternative to literal nazis.

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        Yeah but they’ve consistently supported Nazis abroad and done pretty much nothing to curb fascism at home. I guess they’re not technically Nazis but that’s like Nazi adjacent.

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          Like I said, it’s a tragically low bar. They’re seen as the only feasible alternative to the actual nazis

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      They say they feel bad after seeing a dude get beaten to death on the way back from work. Their opponent would laugh instead, or would be conducting the beating.

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    Fully believe Trump will send ice and militias out to attack polling stations or something like this.

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      I also think this. But I also thought the No Kings protesters were going to be masss murdered and the world cup teams were going to end up in detention camps, so hopefully things won’t be as bad as I think this time either

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        What if we just gave the Argentinian team to ICE.

        You know you paused just now and considered it for a second.

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        But I also thought the No Kings protesters were going to be masss murdered

        Well, given the tools the cops are given, there is still time, I suppose.

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    Don’t forget to vote BLUE no matter WHO! UNLESS the Blue PROMISES to make your Life BETTER then DONT VOTE AT ALL!

    -Democrat Leadership!

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      Is that the flag of israel with a rainbow on both sides ? a muzzled teddy bear in China ? what is the cheeto ?

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        Basically this is a typical chudlib. They think they are actually on the right side of history, because they support “democracies” like Israel, and the only worthy cause they stand up for is the invasion of Ukraine by Russia. But when it comes to Palestinans, they’re quiet.

        They claim to hate dictators and dictatorships, and believe that there is absolutely nothing wrong or immoral with NATO and the western world hegemony. That’s why they have a blinding hatred for China, and think it’s very brave of them to be anti China.

        They think is just an oopsie by yanks, that it’s as easy as voting to get rid of him.

        Basically a stupid chud that hasn’t spent a minute thinking critically about anything.

        Haven’t you ever seen a wojak before? Lol

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          Alright ! I don’t know what wojak is, will look up. sounds like a canadian wild beast heheh

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        Gay Isreal flag = Hamas hates gays (but so does Isreal)

        Cheetah = Trump

        Teddy bear in China = Winnie the Pooh comparisons to Xi is banned in China

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    It would help if they publicly said they will remove him and his criminals from the government. I don’t wanna hear anything about it being a time for healing and reaching across the isle.

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    “a landslide defeat for President Donald Trump in November’s midterm elections is exactly what is required if the country is to start reversing his deliberate and rapid erosion of its democracy”

    that… seems unlikely to me. I mean, he’s not popular, but his approval ratings aren’t significantly worse than the last time he was president.

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      1. They are pretty bad. The scarier thing is how partisan the approval is. It’s been something like 80% approval among republicans and that may have only very recently slipped into the 70’s
      2. Yes, the last time it happened. 2018 happened (when he still had adults in the room to limit his crazier plans), the House was taken back, and he was impeached the first time over tariffs. Not convicted by Senate of course, but it at least sent a message

      If we can slip both house and senate this time, the worst case will hopefully be to obstruct all his BS for 2 more years and leave him a lame duck. If we assume Novemeber goes smoothly (it won’t, but how bad it gets will depend on so many factors).

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          He wasn’t impeached over tariffs in 2018.

          well, my info was horribly wrong. I thought I might have confused one of the failed attempts at impeachment from the first term, but it wasn’t that either.

          70s from within your own party, especially Republicans, is pretty freaking bad.

          Bad for these hyerpartisans times, yes. But this wasn’t the norm, even as far back as 15 years ago.

          But it’s part of why GOP congress is still spineless. A lot of their constituents still think Trump is doing a “good job”. Or at least that’s what they say out loud.

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      Polling show that Dems are unenthusiastic about voting in general lately.

      I guess the question becomes who is angrier at their default party and will now refuse to vote with them: previously-republicans or previously-democrats? The largest registration anymore is “independent”, by a lot.

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          If I understand your comment, you are framing this as republicans looking to split the dems using propoganda. I think its much more complicated than that. It’s a fact that traditional Dem voters are far past focussing solely on republicans as the root of all of our problems. Dems and republicans have 26-27% of the voter registrations each and independents are 45%. You can only eff Dem voters in the rear and ignore their problems so many times (while committing a massively unpopular genocide for donations) before Dem voters stop considering their party as representing them-- and they’ll sit on the couch when they do.

          Its convenient for people to pretend its a dem vs republican fight, but its really dem vs republicans vs couch. Couch is doing really well lately. People are sick of Trump’s idiocy and also sick of the DNC’s incompetence, self interest, and outright treachery. There is no democracy here until we make it happen.

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            you are framing this as republicans looking to split the dems using propoganda.

            Yes, and it’s working. Splitting the vote with couch isn’t as effective as winning over a vote, but still effective for an unpopular party. And when we’re in a low trust society, doing nothing feels more appealing than picking a poison.

            The issue is two fold here: 1) you’re mad at 2 poisons to pick at election day but 2) do not want to put the work in primaries or before primaries to make a better pick. Someone like Mamdami doesn’t just appear from the ether. And it feels defeatist an outright lazy that your preferre candidate didn’t make it if you did nothing to support it.

            Your lowest effort civic duty is to vote on November, and if you can’t even do that I don’t know why you’re in this country. We tore it apart centuries ago over lack of representation and we want to throw that away? For what? Faux doomerism disguised as perfomative protest? What’s really your goal here?

            It’s a fact that traditional Dem voters are far past focussing solely on republicans as the root of all of our problems.

            Yes. We can realize that we are in quicksand and focus on getting outselves out while also realizing we later need to stop dinner from burning. But one is clearly more immediate than the other. Dinner will be the least of our worries if we sink here in 2026.