why is there even a debate that ai “art” is better? If you want ai to generate you an image of mickey mouse for an example, ai has to analise an image of mickey mouse and then spit it out. but before any of that ever happens somebody has to make that image first, and how do they do that? BY DRAWING IT!!! their arguement that “ai art is better” makes just as much sense as trump’s fee on wildfire smoke from canada (which it doesnt)

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    their arguement that “ai art is better”

    Who the fuck is arguing this?

    AI art is faster, yeah.

    AI art is easier/cheaper, yeah.

    But I’ve never heard anybody claiming that it’s better than real art.

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      The CEOs are making this argument, the CEOs. There are corporate admins who are not Altman. They have made comments that we can now have “perfect” art, without human error. If you load up on podcasts looking at AI from various perspectives you’ll come across it.

      These same CEOs say the youngest generations are too fast paced to read, they’d rather have AI to do it for them.

      Regular people though? Probably not, but good luck sorting them out from the other 50% of comments on social media made by AI.

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      Go look at ai wars on reddit, there’s metric shit tons of clanker fanbois stating just that. They will even tell you that pencils are worse for the environment than their power and water gobbling data centres.

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      All correct, but would like to add that AI art is only cheap to the user, to the company it loses them milions of dollars even after initial training costs.

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    There is an argument because the people who own the AI companies have enough money to astroturf social media.

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    I saw a video of an “AI-artist” saying his art was better because it was faster to generate and didn’t take years to learn how to make. His criteria was that the speed and how well the prompt was made is the only arbiter of what is good or not, the actual creation of the art by a human artist, in his argument, was just a waste of time.

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    When people say AI can replace artists I don’t think they mean AI is better than artists. They mean it’s cheaper, faster, and doesn’t talk back. They’re also wrong about it being able to replace artists long-term for the reasons you said, but I don’t think I’ve seen arguments that it’s better than real art.

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    Okay yeah, ai art will never be creative. It can only remix what it already knows…but what does the loss meme have to do with this?.

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    Your argument is something puked by a donkey with clay brains. Art doesn’t exist in isolation and you too need to experience other forms of arts to produce a new one. Fuck ai art though, this sentiment I can agree on

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    They don’t have good arguments, they can’t have good arguments. All that they have is bad faith.

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    It’s somewhat wrong to mencion worse or better in art by something. For example it’s not the same to say that the artist used AI in his work as to say that the artist let AI doing his work. There are people which are artists and such which only think that they are artists. I remember discussions about photography is art or not, clearly depends on who do it. It’s not better or worse than paintings, it’s a different art made with different tools. There are selfies and….

    If it is art or not, always depends on the artist, if he is one or not, not of the tools he use for it.

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    maybe they mean that it’s better than their art.

    an AI Micky mouse would definitely be better than my Micky mouse

    If short stories are considered art then there are studies that show people prefer AI written short stories over human written ones.

    I don’t think it’s black or white.

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    Not the best argument. If you asked a human to draw you Mickey Mouse and they’d never seen an image of him before you run in to the same problem. Before anyone could draw an image of Mickey Mouse someone first had to come up with Mickey Mouse and whoever or whatever is doing the drawing needs to be familiar with the character.