The irony of two ICE agents, one black and one seemingly a Cuban immigrant, racially profiling a black man and cuffing him and carting him off without ever even identifying him because they say he’s an immigrant.
It kills me how often these videos show brown and black ICE agents violating the US Constitution to abduct and beat people for being brown or black. I don’t care how much ICE pays, it’s not worth selling out your own values and everything that was supposed to be good about this country.
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Do you have children? Do you think if you suddenly had no income and was about to lose your home with no family to turn to and nowhere to take them you could keep all of your bills paid in a stable manner by stealing from the rich?
It’s really easy to be a keyboard warrior and say all the badass awesome things you’d do to keep your morals in a terrible situation while needing to keep your kids fed and safe and cared for when you have more than enough money to live and no kids in the first place.
I’m beginning to think you’re an ICE agent in denial about the fact that you’re committing genocide.
I’m tired of writing responses to everyone, so I’m just going to lazy copy/paste:
I never said any word excusing their actions. Trying to understand a thing is not excusing a thing. Trying to understand what caused a man to stab his kids doesn’t magically make him having done that okay.
I don’t understand what this is. It’s like some weird tribalism. If someone tries to understand what causes normal humans to join and do evil instead of chanting the approved script they get seen as bad.
If you care that a roof collapsed and want to keep that tragedy from reoccurring, you study the schematics and the local environment and weather and capacity and try to understand what caused it so you can design things better in the future. If you want to keep genocidal regimes from growing and try to do the same thing, people now say you’re trying to defend their actions.
How does that make sense to you? When did understanding and nuance and thought on the sociology and psychology behind things become something so many on the left started to see as an enemy?
Understanding is not excusing. Understanding why the roof collapsed doesn’t make it alright that it killed dozens of people. Understanding why a man snapped and stabbed his own children to death doesn’t cause us to go “Aww, it’s okay buddy.” Understanding why people join evil regimes and do evil things doesn’t excuse any of their actions.
But if you actually give a shit about stopping it long term and finding a way to build better and make it less likely to grow and keep happening in the future, understanding is vital.
I’m sorry but do you? If someone killed you and your family now and said they had to because they were poor would that be acceptable to you? Would you just say no worries mate we all do what’s best for our families.
And again:
I never said any word excusing their actions. Trying to understand a thing is not excusing a thing. Trying to understand what caused a man to stab his kids doesn’t magically make him having done that okay.
I don’t understand what this is. It’s like some weird tribalism. If someone tries to understand what causes normal humans to join and do evil instead of chanting the approved script they get seen as bad.
If you care that a roof collapsed and want to keep that tragedy from reoccurring, you study the schematics and the local environment and weather and capacity and try to understand what caused it so you can design things better in the future. If you want to keep genocidal regimes from growing and try to do the same thing, people now say you’re trying to defend their actions.
How does that make sense to you? When did understanding and nuance and thought on the sociology and psychology behind things become something so many on the left started to see as an enemy?
Understanding is not excusing. Understanding why the roof collapsed doesn’t make it alright that it killed dozens of people. Understanding why a man snapped and stabbed his own children to death doesn’t cause us to go “Aww, it’s okay buddy.” Understanding why people join evil regimes and do evil things doesn’t excuse any of their actions.
But if you actually give a shit about stopping it long term and finding a way to build better and make it less likely to grow and keep happening in the future, understanding is vital.
I do understand why they do it. I still condemn them for it. Do you condemn them for it?
You’re actually asking if someone condemns abducting people into concentration camps and gunning down random innocent people in broad daylight in the middle of the street?
Lets see my recent post and comment history:
What do you see that leads you to believe that’s a sane or reasonable question? Of course I condemn killing innocent people in the street and abducting people randomly based mostly on skin color to concentration camps.
You seem so eager to see people as evil you’ve completely lost your capacity for reasoning.
Because you’re saying shit like
To someone saying they hate them
Implying they’re just looking for excuses to hate murderers.
Pretending they don’t have any other options even if they may be hard.
Acting like hating murderers is just tribalism. As if they were just handed a script saying “these guys are baddies” and not they could, idk, hate fucking murderers.
You’re bending over backwards in this comment section to defend murderers from people who hate them for being murderers, hiding behind the shield that you’re just explaining the cause of their actions.
No, you’re looking for an excuse to hate random strangers on the internet. Me, in this instance. You’re trying to see attempting to understand what drives people to do these things as somehow excusing horrible crimes against humanity because you want to be angry and anyone doing more than chanting “kill nazis!” seems like someone you might be able to construe as somehow supporting atrocities.
No, I’m not. The prices of rent and everything have skyrocketed. Many people are in extreme financial hardship. If you have children that you need to keep in a stable home and fed and no relatives you can turn to for help there isn’t actually a lot you can do. A whole lot of people are in that shitty situation right now.
That’s how people can be willing to sign up for a thing they hate. Then human nature kicks in and over far too little time doing awful things to other people becomes just a part of the daily routine and they start to see those other people as lesser or deserving of what they’re doing to them.
None of that excuses committing crimes against humanity. But if you give an actual fuck about stopping people from joining up then you need to give an actual fuck about what pushes people to do it.
No. The massive downvotes I’m getting and hating a person for simply trying to understand what causes humans to walk down this path so that we might better learn how to avoid it happening in the future is the tribalism.
You all jumping on me for putting thought and effort into the issue instead of chanting to kill all nazis.