Unfortunately, I can’t make enough money doing that in my area without being attached to a company. If I could work out of my garage, that’d be great. I already have all the tools I’d need.
Unfortunately, I can’t make enough money doing that in my area without being attached to a company.
Most of that is because Google, Facebook and other giant tech companies gatekeep you from finding any customers. It’s not because the customers don’t exist, it’s because the customers have been trained to find you with Google search, then look at Google reviews, check you out on your Google site, and maybe if they’re really serious check Facebook too.
The question then becomes, without the tech giants standing in the middle, how do you find customers and how do customers find you? Easier said than done, you might think, and you might be right. But I believe with patience and an understanding of old-school, pre-tech-giant advertising and some creativity on how you adapt it to today’s world and tomorrow’s, whatever that will be, I think it might be easier than you imagine. Remember that the tech-giants and gatekeepers also propagandize their dominance so that you don’t see any other path as viable. They don’t want you to try other things, and they’ll come at you sideways to make you believe it’s too risky, that you’re already failing or prevent you from committing enough to actually succeed.
Part of the problem is patience. They’ve built their platforms based on instant gratification and shortening attention spans. It may take time to build a business outside their system. You will need financial runway, maybe more than you think, and you’ll need time on the runway to start to get enough air under your wings to lift off, and at first it won’t seem like you’re making any progress no matter how hard you’re pushing. This is enough to make most people quit. They count on that.
If I could work out of my garage
The economy is ripe for this kind of shift, I think. I don’t know if we’re there yet, but “shop small, shop local” is the only way out of this tech-giant megacorporation dystopia, and I see signs that people are starting to figure that out, or even just be forced into it while looking for the gray and black market economic options as people increasingly find themselves priced out of the “normal” economy in sector after sector.
If the economy is no longer working for people (and it’s clearly not), they will naturally seek alternatives. This isn’t even really a philosophical choice as much as it is a practical inevitability.
When the existing economic system becomes unfair, unjust, and unlivable, the only rational choice is to opt-out of that system. This is one potential path out of it, if enough people choose it, it can succeed. There are many other possible paths out of it too, most of them are far less pleasant. Time will tell where we end up.
I was hiring for an entry level position a few months ago. Service desk type work. I either got people who were fabricating their CV to get an interview or insanely over qualified. It took a LONG time to hire the right guy.
At no point did I ever think, gee I wonder if I can get AI to read these CVs or do the interview for me. Christ knows what I would have ended up with.
They typically won’t take the job or won’t like the job. You don’t want to hire someone for a position if they don’t actually want that specific position, because there’s a reason that’s the vacancy. Both candidate and HR have to judge if it fits
Could be that, but that would also be legitimate, wouldn’t it? And it could also mean it’s not the right fit, or the candidate will pursue a different offer, or leave soon, or want a different position soon, or all kinds of other problems.
Hiring is about more than just “can they do it”. That’s the issue. HR isn’t trying to fuck you over. They want the best fit and that isn’t necessarily the most qualified candidate.
Now you are changing the criteria to add in more things to “fit”.
Imagine we have the perfect candidate for a job under all measures, except they have a masters (or PHD) instead of a bachelors. A rejection in that case is stupid.
People applying for jobs below their experience level have likely already tried applying for jobs at their own experience level (if they’re hiring at all) and run into stupid recruiters demanding way too much for the position. Unless it’s an extreme disparity, just let them. I’ve spent a lot longer unemployed than I would’ve if recruiters like that just offered me something, and avoiding growing debt is more motivating at that point than you might think.
You want to tell developers from mass layoffs trying to pay rent that they would be ‘bored’ in a lower paying job? Or they are effectively blacklisted for being ‘overqualified’ in a slop addicted job market that refuses to pay for that expertise?
Excuse me but fuck all that. HR can absolutely make it clear if there is no-expectation of upward movement or pay increase for the job. Sure HR can and should give lesser experienced applicants a chance if they meet the criteria, but outright denying one based on being ‘over-qualified’ is, and always has been, bullshit.
I’m as frustrated with this job market as anyone but let’s be realistic. Filling a role takes a lot of time and energy. Nobody involved in the process wants to repeat it in a few weeks or months. They have every incentive not to waste time with applicants that have any reason not to stick around.
I didn’t want to hurt your feelings. I explained the situation coming from the other side.
HR or the department are looking for longtime employees. Since everyone has to be trained to the company standards etc. This takes sometimes years. Time and energy which is “wasted” when the employee leaves right when they become self reliant.
Nobody is working in an underqualified and underpaid job for years.
It’s funny that corporations are like “no one wants to work” but also don’t want to do the work of interviewing candidates
Well they said it themselves, no one wants to work.
I want to work.
I just want to work building and fixing bicycles.
Unfortunately, I can’t make enough money doing that in my area without being attached to a company. If I could work out of my garage, that’d be great. I already have all the tools I’d need.
For real. There’s a lot of jobs that I’d truly enjoy doing full-time, but they just don’t pay enough.
Courtney is oriented in the right direction.
Most of that is because Google, Facebook and other giant tech companies gatekeep you from finding any customers. It’s not because the customers don’t exist, it’s because the customers have been trained to find you with Google search, then look at Google reviews, check you out on your Google site, and maybe if they’re really serious check Facebook too.
The question then becomes, without the tech giants standing in the middle, how do you find customers and how do customers find you? Easier said than done, you might think, and you might be right. But I believe with patience and an understanding of old-school, pre-tech-giant advertising and some creativity on how you adapt it to today’s world and tomorrow’s, whatever that will be, I think it might be easier than you imagine. Remember that the tech-giants and gatekeepers also propagandize their dominance so that you don’t see any other path as viable. They don’t want you to try other things, and they’ll come at you sideways to make you believe it’s too risky, that you’re already failing or prevent you from committing enough to actually succeed.
Part of the problem is patience. They’ve built their platforms based on instant gratification and shortening attention spans. It may take time to build a business outside their system. You will need financial runway, maybe more than you think, and you’ll need time on the runway to start to get enough air under your wings to lift off, and at first it won’t seem like you’re making any progress no matter how hard you’re pushing. This is enough to make most people quit. They count on that.
The economy is ripe for this kind of shift, I think. I don’t know if we’re there yet, but “shop small, shop local” is the only way out of this tech-giant megacorporation dystopia, and I see signs that people are starting to figure that out, or even just be forced into it while looking for the gray and black market economic options as people increasingly find themselves priced out of the “normal” economy in sector after sector.
If the economy is no longer working for people (and it’s clearly not), they will naturally seek alternatives. This isn’t even really a philosophical choice as much as it is a practical inevitability.
When the existing economic system becomes unfair, unjust, and unlivable, the only rational choice is to opt-out of that system. This is one potential path out of it, if enough people choose it, it can succeed. There are many other possible paths out of it too, most of them are far less pleasant. Time will tell where we end up.
I was hiring for an entry level position a few months ago. Service desk type work. I either got people who were fabricating their CV to get an interview or insanely over qualified. It took a LONG time to hire the right guy.
At no point did I ever think, gee I wonder if I can get AI to read these CVs or do the interview for me. Christ knows what I would have ended up with.
overqualified is the fucking stupidest hr shit ever
They typically won’t take the job or won’t like the job. You don’t want to hire someone for a position if they don’t actually want that specific position, because there’s a reason that’s the vacancy. Both candidate and HR have to judge if it fits
No. Overqualified is bullshit.
What HR mean is salary expectations are too high.
Could be that, but that would also be legitimate, wouldn’t it? And it could also mean it’s not the right fit, or the candidate will pursue a different offer, or leave soon, or want a different position soon, or all kinds of other problems.
If the salary is wrong they will move, but having additional skills doesn’t interfere with one skill being employed.
Hiring is about more than just “can they do it”. That’s the issue. HR isn’t trying to fuck you over. They want the best fit and that isn’t necessarily the most qualified candidate.
Now you are changing the criteria to add in more things to “fit”.
Imagine we have the perfect candidate for a job under all measures, except they have a masters (or PHD) instead of a bachelors. A rejection in that case is stupid.
Overqualified is just code for “too expensive”.
People applying for jobs below their experience level have likely already tried applying for jobs at their own experience level (if they’re hiring at all) and run into stupid recruiters demanding way too much for the position. Unless it’s an extreme disparity, just let them. I’ve spent a lot longer unemployed than I would’ve if recruiters like that just offered me something, and avoiding growing debt is more motivating at that point than you might think.
Not really. You don‘t want people get bored at their job. That comes with a lot of other problems if this happens.
Payment is according to the job level not according to the qualification.
You want to tell developers from mass layoffs trying to pay rent that they would be ‘bored’ in a lower paying job? Or they are effectively blacklisted for being ‘overqualified’ in a slop addicted job market that refuses to pay for that expertise?
Excuse me but fuck all that. HR can absolutely make it clear if there is no-expectation of upward movement or pay increase for the job. Sure HR can and should give lesser experienced applicants a chance if they meet the criteria, but outright denying one based on being ‘over-qualified’ is, and always has been, bullshit.
I’m as frustrated with this job market as anyone but let’s be realistic. Filling a role takes a lot of time and energy. Nobody involved in the process wants to repeat it in a few weeks or months. They have every incentive not to waste time with applicants that have any reason not to stick around.
I didn’t want to hurt your feelings. I explained the situation coming from the other side.
HR or the department are looking for longtime employees. Since everyone has to be trained to the company standards etc. This takes sometimes years. Time and energy which is “wasted” when the employee leaves right when they become self reliant.
Nobody is working in an underqualified and underpaid job for years.
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