In a world of constant unjustified hyperbole, Oprah is genuinely the nexus of SOOO much evil through Oz, Phil, John of God, etc.
What a fucking suck on humanity.
She is a victim of abuse that keeps the cycle going.
Yes, when it’s a white man he’s evil, when it’s a black woman she’s a victim of the system. We all know.
No, like an actual victim of abuse autobiographically.
Abused by her Grandmother physically as a young child, sexually by multiple people when elementary school age. Neglected by her drug-addict mother. Mentally and emotionally by multiple romantic partners.
No one said anything about race, you twit.
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A lot of rapists too.
Oprah is the Joe Rogan of her generation.
Thanks for succinctly and precisely explaining why I really dislike her.
I’ve tried to explain why to my wife, but I feel like I’ve always missed the mark and she has implied it’s probably a mixture of misogyny and/or racism. Which still may be true I don’t really know. However, next time it comes up, I’ll point out that I dislike her for the same reason I dislike rogan.
Unfortunately, sexism and racism is so rampant from men (conservatism is ingrained into many men as a form of masculinity) that well-intentioned men who criticize toxic and exploitative capitalist women (esp women of color) are immediately lumped into that group of degenerate men. The reality of it is, Oprah is a toxic influence on women and gets off on creating FOMO among her impressionable fanbase. She created Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil, the former of which has had disastrous effects on women’s health esp nutrition because he’s a quack and pretends to be an expert on all things medical, and the latter of which oversimplifies most psych concepts to the point where laypeople think they’re qualified psychologists now.
You really didn’t need to admit that you probably don’t like her because she’s a black woman. If you don’t say this to your wife when adding the joe rogan bit, then you’re being dishonest.
Edit: Look. OP said that. It’s right there in the comment. I’m not making it up. Oprah sucks? Sure. She’s like Joe Rogan? Okay. My wife said my comments are sexist and racist, and it may be true… dude. That’s all I pointed out. Sorry, but that’s not okay. I’m fine with the downvotes, though I’ll make sure to better portray my point next time.
One of the best ways to come to the conclusion that you need to better yourself in some areas is to be open to the idea you might have a bias.
But acknowledging you might have a bias does not mean it’s there and you’re OK with it
And not liking someone who is part of a marginalized group does not always mean a bias either.
You really didn’t need to admit that you probably don’t like her because she’s a black woman.
What do you mean? I don’t believe this to be the case, I believe I don’t like her for the same reason I don’t like rogan, and the last I checked he isn’t a black woman. Recognizing that I may have internalized biases that fall in a blind spot of mine is not an admission of anything nor is it something anyone should be shitting on.
But you did say “my wife thinks my comments have a mix of racism and misogyny, which is still maybe true.” How does that paint a good picture in any way?
But I stand corrected and I admit I had a knee-jerk reaction.
How does that paint a good picture in any way?
I wasn’t trying to paint a good picture, I was being honest.
Then be honest with yourself for once.
You say:
I don’t believe this to be the case,
How do you reconcile that with “maybe I’m being racist and misogynistic”?
I am being honest with myself: I may have internalized biases that I’m not consciously aware of. There’s nothing to reconcile here as these two statements are not mutually exclusive or even contradictory in any way.
I am so looking forward to a Lemmy user who is black and a woman to tell you that Oprah sucks. Whoever you are, please do us that favor. And if there aren’t any black women on Lemmy… well, there should be anyway.
Which is fine. I probably gave it more emphasis on the side point that the main point. But OP did admit that his wife pointed out that his comments have a misogyny and racist tone, and OP said that maybe that’s true. That’s it.
“Oprah sucks because she’s like Joe Rogan”
Ok.
“And if someone thinks it’s racist and sexist, it maaaaaay be true.”
Not ok.
Two things.
wife pointed out that his comments have a misogyny and racist tone
First you’re putting words in my mouth. She never said anything about my tone making her believe that, but that my dislike might be misogynistic and/or racist. I believe this is because I wasn’t explaining my position well, so without a good reason, it opened the door for that possibility.
Second,
“And if someone thinks it’s racist and sexist, it maaaaaay be true.”
Not ok.
It’s a good thing that I’m open to the possibility that I’m biased. This is not something to shit on. I don’t get why this is such a bad thing. Bring open to being wrong is how you grow.
Understood, and you clarified in another comment.
Your original comment was not clear enough, at least not to me, but now that I have the full context, I see that you’re not some racist/sexist asshole. But of course, it was wrong of me to accuse you of that in the first place without asking you to clarify. I’ll do that from now on.
My man. Good on you. We can all learn from this admission.
They didn’t?
They did.
Huh - a billionaire that lies?
Whoda thunk?
I mean yeah, Ozempic is the death knell of weight watchers.
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Oprah has been getting away with some fucked up shit for a while
It’s her fault we have Dr.Oz and Dr.Phil
Platforming John of God was pretty awful as well.
Sounds like symptoms of the disease.
I have said for years I do not trust that woman. She is too powerful and, honestly, I bet she has nukes.
“We’ve got a big surprise for you all today! Everyone look under your seats”
Audience members find a leaflet and begin reading
“We are in possession of the most destructive explosive ever devised by man. A single one of our newly developed atomic bombs is actually the equivalent in explosive power to what 2000 of our giant B-29s can carry on a single mission. This awful fact is one for you to ponder and we solemnly assure you it is grimly accurate…”
Well that was a twist I wasn’t expecting
When Oprah goes, she plans to take the rest of us with her.
Gary, they’re onto us mate!
Yeah, well my mate Paul met this Italian couple whilst he was backpacking and they invited him back to their room for a threesome and they gave him some LSD. When they got there the bloke one pulled a screwdriver on him and made him shit in his own shoe and eat it.
We’ve all been there.
Literally her entire career, maybe life.
I wouldn’t exactly call this “fucked up shit”
Not in comparison to her other shit, but I stand by my statement
Oprah has been getting away with some fucked up shit
Such as?
Such as letting a comedian best-known for making fart jokes while wearing a bikini come on to her show as if she were a medical expert (she admitted on the show that she went to the “University of Google” and Oprah didn’t challenge that) to lie about how vaccines cause autism. And it wasn’t even the first time Oprah spread that lie.
https://welltodo.substack.com/p/i-regret-to-inform-you-that-oprah
She’s endorsed multiple on her show selling junk science and grifts. She perpetuates myths about losing weight and health to promote her products. She basically did the same thing on Maui that everyone gets angry at Zuckerberg for doing Kauai, which was buy a fuck ton of land and then kick everyone off of it. She presents like a black girl that made it, but is infact just another billionaire member of the American aristocracy. Is she better than most? Sure, but it’s not hard to be better than people like Trump and Koch.
Remember when her and Ellen joked about going into a bank just to make a deposit to see how the common people live?
How much stock did she dump before this announcement? If Martha Stewart was convicted, how much more inside info is this? The SEC should be investigating the fraud that is Oprah.
Oprah is a bullshit artist. She has always been a bullshit artist and she got rich peddling bullshit. Her efficiency promoting pseudoscience throughout her career makes her a blight on society, forever deserving scorn for the people she helped to hurt. We are collectively dumber because of her efforts, and she gets to live her life lavished by luxury and adulation as a result.
She is responsible for both Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz. She could have literally been responsible for handing the senate over to the Republicans.
Fuck Oprah.
During the pandemic, Dr. Oz’s private cardiac clinic in the US was handing out vaccine exemption notes to anyone who paid the fee. There was no physical examination, just a questionnaire, and you didn’t need to be one of his actual patients. No referral from your family doctor was necessary either and no need to provide your medical records. It was a complete and utter scam. How do I know? Because I literally called his clinic to follow up on a bullshit exemption claim and they told me their process.
She also gave a lot of attention to vaccine skepticism by making Jenny McCarthy seem like a medical expert on Autism.
I mean she literally pushed this with a straight face
She’s an entertainer. Who cares.
What an incredibly dumb statement to make in the comment section of an article about her literally leaving the board of a major company. “Just an entertainer” holy shit.
Yeah, and Michael Jordan owns restaurants. Who cares about Oprah.
Fuck Oprah.
Her sanctimonious bullshit brought us Dr. Oz, Dr. Phil, and Jenny McCarthy.
Her ‘listening platform’ has probably lead directly to the deaths of tens of thousands of people.
I believe she’s also
the largestone of the largest land owners in Maui where many locals are facing homelessness due to the fires.Edit: she owns around 1000 acres.
No. The State of Hawaii is the largest landowner on Maui, followed by the real estate company Alexander and Baldwin. Do not spread misinformation please.
Would you rather, receive open heart surgery performed by Oz, Phil with Nurse McCarthy, or receive lethal injection administered by Dr Phil?
This shouldnt be a hard question, but…
Nah, nah, nah. Easy choice. I’d go with the lethal injection because I think that there’s a much greater chance Phil would fuck up killing someone (easy, all things considered), rather than the three of them succeeding in something difficult. Simply because none of them are qualified to do anything but blather idiocy into a camera
Iirc Dr. Oz used to be quite the renowned heart surgeon. Makes it even more tragic that he chose this life as a charlatan giving harmful advice, instead of using his talent for good.
Right, Oz had a specialty he was really good at. Phil was always a grifter.
Everyone who’s watch scrubs knows that surgeons are only good at cutting
I would definitely let Dr. Oz do heart surgery on me. Similarly, I’d definitely let Ben Carson do brain surgery on me.
And the second either of them started talking about anything other than my surgery, I’d tell them to shut the fuck up.
They’ve been out of the medical field for so long though. I wouldn’t trust them to know the current State of the Art in their fields. A lot has changed since they last practiced.
That is a good point.
Never been a big fan of Oprah, or anyone who bases their entire career around “Look how generous and righteous I am”, while earning huge profits for doing it. It will never not rub me the wrong way.
These people may inject some good into the world for a few people, but building your fame and fortune around it is a bit morally fucked.
“Look how generous and righteous I am”
Also Drake. Also Shaq.
Both give away heaps of money… but only in front of heaps of planned cameras rolling.
That’s not charity. That’s using the poor for PR and clicks for profit, no different from Bum Fights.
Change my mind.
Oprah built her empire on the backs of all the slow adults and little people she victimized during her first few years.
From the Gospel of Bill Burr.
calling them little people is dumb
Maybe you should ask them how they feel about it.
He means ‘Little people’
of course she did. it’s the only way she’s gonna be able to do it. we need to stop focusing on people’s bodies and get on with fixing the climate.
False dichotomy but I take your point…
Is it a false dichotomy if every problem humanity faces comes second when compared to climate change?
But we can focus on more than one problem. Like I’m a gay guy. Should I nor focus on the potential genocide me and my community will likely face if the Republicans can win?
Yeah, I’m not racist but climate change is a big deal.
nobody was talking about the climate dude
Exactly 😥
What was that Oprah said about these younger generations not wanting to work for something ?
“My frustration with young women + young men is that they think success is supposed to happen like - That!”
that’s her.
what a fraud.i take that back. she left the board. i hope that she finds some peace with her body.She’s a multi-billionaire. I say she can keep the struggle with her body image.
“My frustration with young women + young men is that they think success is supposed to happen like - That!”
Uh, she definitely worked hard. She’s an actual “self made” billionaire. She did it through constantly working in media over decades. Do you think anyone said “let’s just give this young black woman a billion dollars?” She was literally the first black woman to have a billion dollars, so no.
Her weight has always been an issue, so this is only news to her most rabid fans.
There are no self made billionaires lol.
I don’t know why you got downvoted. It’s literally impossible to become a billionaire without exploiting others.
It’s not self made if she worked her way up. First she had to get a job. Then she had to have someone see something in her to move her up. Then someone had to talk good about her to someone else. Then through the power of networking, she made it to where she is. A lot of success in the entertainment industry is either landing the role that will get you set for life(think Daniel Radcliffe as Harry Potter), or getting to know people who know people. And for a lot of people, that means other people are helping lift you up.
She’s worked hard. Cool.
She’s given platform to charlatans. Not cool.
She’s living in her bubble after getting rich and is unaware of ground realities. Cool.
She’s criticising average people while living in that bubble. Not cool.
My wife is the hardest-working person I know. I have to beg her to come home when she’s sick so she can get some rest. Where’s our billions?
Oh right, my wife chose to work in a public library and actually help people.
Everybody works hard. If hard work is all it takes to deserve billions, why aren’t all the rest of us billionaires?
Because she got help, that’s why.
She’s an actual “self made” billionaire.
🤦♂️
The first black woman billionaire was Sheila Johnson.
No, she wasn’t. Unless you are double counting her husband’s money. She was married to the founder of BET. If you think they each did equal work for that, the money would be divided evenly.
When they divorced they had less than a billion each. And their collective wealth only passed $1 billion a few years before Oprah did it on her own. Saying “they were both billionaires” seems wrong.
If you and your spouse have $1000 total, how much money do you have? The answer is: you have $300 and your spouse has $700 because there’s something amazing that you have to get for the house.
I loathe this woman…evil all around
A decade ago I lost weight on weight watchers. All it took was self control. The less calories I ate, the less I weighed. I’m still within 5 pounds of that weight.
My mom has had fantastic success with weight watchers. As has my wife, but with her we’re talking 5 to 10 lbs she has wanted to lose. But it still has been a great system for her which has benefitted me too.
Oprah being a fraud that pushes pseudoscience to benefit herself shouldn’t detract from this.
so she shorted the stock right?
