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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to traingang@hexbear.netEnglish · 3 years ago

They are going to do it, they are going to build AnCapistan.

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They are going to do it, they are going to build AnCapistan.

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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to traingang@hexbear.netEnglish · 3 years ago
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https://www.businessinsider.com/flannery-silicon-valley-billionaires-build-new-california-city-solano-county-2023-8

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  • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Again. debord-tired

    This “Galt’s Gulch” shit has been tried over and over and over again, including in Puerto Rico after the big hurricane a few years back. Each time, it typically fails before the first structures are built and the griftiest grifter runs off with the money. Because Enlightened Self Interest, praise Rand. galaxy-brain

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      What basic necessity of modern civilization will they fuck up or straight up forget this time? In New Hampshire it was garbage collection, in Chile it was basic sewage sanitation. I hope it’s something new and funny

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        “Not building structures out of smelting slag just because it’s the most economic material”

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        I’m praying for roads. Like they’re gonna make a hyperloop that works even worse than elsewhere or they’re gonna make some sort of weird privatized solution to asphalt that just fucks up the paving immediately

        • ChaosMaterialist [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          Guys, I’m from the future and I have a video of their first town hall. Who wants to Lathe this into existence with me?

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            inshallah

    • Comp4 [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      Reminds me of the story with the roaming bears in a city that did some weird libertarian policy/program. There is a book about it called a “Libertarian walks into a Bear” Not sure if the books is any good but the real story is funny (or a bit unsettling) if you know about it.

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        Oh, I know that one.

        The “Galt’s Gulches” I mentioned were all attempts to start brand-new colonial fever dreams in a vacant area, and pretty much none of them got past the financing phase before the most Enlightened Self-Interested One ran off with the money.

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          visible-disgust Selling NFTs?

          stalin-feels-good Selling non existent colony shares?

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            Critical support to Gregor MacGregor in his struggle to financially ruin settler-colonialists

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    wojak-nooo THE CHINESE BUILD GHOST CITIES BECAUSE THEY ARE STUPID AND WANT THE WORLD TO THINK THEY’RE SUCCESSFUL

    so-true Wow… Elon Mungus wants to buy a bunch of empty land to create Brain Genius Colony? As long as there no homeless people, sign me up! Live in the pod? Well, if it’s designed by Mungus… it can’t be that bad unlike GYNA!

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      I would love it if a sensible city would be planed, but I doubt that this is what will happen.

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        There will be no public transport and everyone will be forced to drive Teslas on autopilot yea

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          https://www.inforadio.de/dossier/2019/wmr---mobilitaet-in-berlin/platz-da-daten.html

          Has some information about percentages for settlement areas, traffic areas and vegetation including rivers for Berlin.

          With the given numbers of acres and using Berlin numbers they could create up to 180k plots of potential spaces. With 3-7million population and medium high rise (~4 floors) and that includes parks, public transport, regular transport and quite a bit of vegetation as well as ways to and from the city.

          Though of course this doesn’t include any change in material conditions but only the ownership of the land which was already there. The 800 million were paid for the rights within the social relations to do all that, but the actual labour and the infrastructure costs are something that they likely won’t bear.

          This of course means this project could have many reasons, but a part of them will be speculative. However I lean with the others who expect this to not work out or end up in scams.

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            I wonder if there’s a way to effectively short this project.

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            Berliners love to hate their public transportation, and its infrastructure is kinda crap compared to places like Amsterdam or Copenhagen (it helps that the Netherlands and Denmark both do not have a car industry i guess), but i can 100% guarantee that AnCapopolis will have nothing even remotely comparable to Berlin’s subway and train system or its density of parks, but will instead feature 10 times as many parking lots as Berlin. Like every Amnerikan pipe dream city it’s in the middle of a fucking desert so there will be no rivers either and let’s not even get started on how much the clubs and bars and restaurants there will suck compared to Berlin, or how atrociously low their numbers of hot transbians will be.

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              I would say Berlin has better public transport than Copenhagen. The only thing it’s worse for (which is pretty big to be sure) is bike and pedestrian infrastructure

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    deleted by creator

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      A body without taxes is like an ancap reading of deleuze right?

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        Lmao

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      If they had kept going without taxes, they would’ve been chased out of America by bears

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    Remember when they were baselessly claiming that the Chinese government was behind this to spy on Travis Air Force Base? Wonder if those “journalists” will face any consequences for their rabid racism

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      They will be rewarded with a Pulitzer

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      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        The fact that journos can make up things about govenments run by non white people with absolute impunity is racist. The fact that you’re defending it, is not a good look. At best its unintentional rascism apologia

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        oh oh, say the line about hating the Chinese government but not its people (😉) next

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          • operacion_ogro [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            you shouldn’t which makes it weird that you immediately came to the defense of so-called journalists who engage in Yellow Peril mudslinging

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            Who do you think makes up the Chinese government? There are like 100 million members of the communist party and the national level government has over 90% approval from the Chinese people.

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              • 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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                So you think the folks at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government, the source for that 90% figure, just took the word of the government? You think they people they surveyed are all brainwashed?

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                  Harvard? That nest of bolsheviks?

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                But in reality… What? Are you gonna use anecdotal evidence to support your claim?

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        “We don’t hate all Jews, we’re just very concerned about the Elders of Zion and their Secret Protocols.”

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        Yeah. Theyre only worried about those dirty oeientalist removed government. Thats why we dont wanr any dirty orienralist removed in positiona of power

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    Dollar store ass Night City

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      night city is supposed to be san francisco right? That means this place is probably the dump outside night city

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        Nah Night City is literally a private city by the bay area but not actually San Fran or anything

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          On the upside the founder of Night City got got so let’s hope the same holds true for these fucks.

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        apparently it’s a renamed Morro Bay, in the Cyberpunk universe there was a big massacre there and it became a no-go zone, then this guy Night comes in and buys it to make a city

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    or just a company town based around debt-peonage

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      aristophanes

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    We already know how this will turn out: Half of the city is going to get bogged down in never ending lawsuits from fucking eachother over, and the other half is going to get eaten by bears.

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      Eaten by bears.

      hexbear-shining

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      To have bears overrun your city, you first have to have a city. This is gonna turn out like Próspera, where there’s more work put into the website than the brick and mortar.

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    Bioshock but boring

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      Biosnore? Bloviatslumber?

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    Real Galt’s Gulch has never been tried.

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      After several years in the reddit wastelands, I had to double check that this joke was as good as I imagined it. Fuck me sideways with an axe, dude.

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    15,000 per acre sounds unusually cheap, especially for California. That’s about $10 million per square mile.

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      It is even cheap for bad land.

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    I can only hope that is goes as well as last time hexbear-shining

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    Night City off Wish

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    I listened to an interview with andreesen once, and that dude is dumb as fucking rocks. I understand how llms work better than this dude

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      Why does he look like Notch without the g*mer energy?

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        I have no idea who that is. Andreesen mainly exudes boomer energy

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          The alt right bigot who made Minecraft.

          Ah like “look at all this great shit I literally can’t explain further because I’m the money man, I’m literally just here yo make money but convince myself it’s good ol American dream libertarianism” sort of energy?

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            alt right

            I stopped using that term about a week after Charlottesville. I started to call everybody on the right-wing - right-wingers except those rare times I use “conservative” because that’s the term the US media insists on even though it’s ridiculous to call fascists conservative.

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              I usually just call them nazis and wait for the inevitable “the alt right aren’t nazis” slop from libs.

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            Ah, I see.

            Kinda, he’s an “I’m making the world a better place” guy peppered with “I was a coder 30 years ago” confidence. Guy also has e/acc in his twitter bio, which I hope makes everyone finally convinced that x/acc is deeply uncool

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              Oh the willy wonker doublethink capitalist meets veteran coder trope?

              Lmao I’m just making these up now trying to home in on the type of person you mean without having to waste time listening to them.

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              I’m out of the loop, what is “x/acc”?

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                Had to look it up too. Looks like it’s some LessWrong nonsense, and he calls himself an “effective accelerationist”.

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    hexbear-shining free-real-estate

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    grabs popcorn

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