People aren’t seeing this for the real precursor it is. People are getting emboldened now. There will be more events like this.
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I don’t. They might commit more hate crimes, but mass shooters usually do it because they’re demoralized and feel powerless. Trump supporters are the opposite rn. The shooter rolled a natural 1 for agility and Trump rolled a critical success for luck. It couldn’t have gone better for him.
The DC for the shot was much higher than you think. He rolled a combined 24 when the DC was 25.
If he rolled a 1 he would have been shot dead before getting a shot off at all. Instead, he grazed the target’s ear from over 100 feet away. That took skill.
It was around 400 feet, but that’s still absolutely nothing for an AR. My 65 year old mother was hitting a six-inch target at 300 ft her first time ever shooting.
For comparison, Army recruits have to hit a human sized target at about 500 ft to qualify. And basically everyone qualifies.
i think he might’ve been a tad bit nervous though. that seems quite reasonable.
Reports are saying it’s the teleprompter glass that cut him, which makes wayyyy more sense than him getting grazed.
That was initially reported by TMZ. There’s a picture that shows the bullet approaching
Can you link to that picture?
There is a pic of a presumed bullet flying past his head, is that the one you mean?
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I’m far less concerned about emboldened supporters than I am about the likely backlash by the state. Events like this are always taken as justification for more harsh oppression of the people. Also, Biden now has to make statements sympathetic to Trump. This couldn’t have gone worse - we get the blowback from an attempt, and he’s able to ride this to more popularity.
Assassination isn’t the way, folks. I know you’re hurting, I know you’re disempowered by the electoral system, but Trump and Biden aren’t the core of the problem. You can’t cut the head off because it’s not a snake, it’s a hydra. The way to beat this system is to build alternatives and wean people off of their dependence on it, and deprive it of victims. You have to starve the beast.
Taking out the fascist figureheads does nothing about the ideology and forces behind the fascism. Make being a Nazi something to be ashamed of again.
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The way to beat this system is to build alternatives and wean people off of their dependence on it, and deprive it of victims.
And how do you propose we do this considering the only way the system can have alternatives is if the system allows for alternatives which (spoiler) >!it won’t!<.
Direct action; ie: don’t wait for the permission you will never get. Just start building locally, do mutual aid, make one another’s lives better now.
In longer form: How do we build an anarchist revolution? | Constructing the Revolution
There are links there to the text and a version with no music if you’d prefer those.
I appreciate the genuine response. It’s good for my cynical ass.
No worries, a lot of people are stuck in hierarchical realism. We’re programmed for it from the moment we begin school or earlier if we had authoritarian parents. It’s nobody’s fault if they haven’t yet imagined a future without hierarchy.
Edit: It’s also nice to get a genuine reply back, so thanks.
Biden doesn’t have to do shit. He can just ignore it all together.
He’s already made those statements and his campaign has ceased all outgoing communications. He doesn’t have to, but he’s a liberal, so he’s not going to let an opportunity to lose pass him by.
I honestly give it a 50% chance that there’s some sort of mass casualty event in the next 12 hours related to this.
Given that there is more mass shootings in USA than days in a year, I think this ship has already sailed…
There’s a difference between a mass casualty event and the technical definition of a mass shooting. One is easily met by gangs doing a drive by. The other requires multiple emergency rooms, triaging people, and calling up neighboring counties for more resources.
I’ll leave you to figure out which one is a loaded political term and which one is the thing that gets 48 hours of close coverage on the news.
Seems like only in America “political terms” are loaded with actual bullets and regularly shoot bystanders in schools, nightclubs, malls and other public spaces.
It will be more than 12 hours before it happens. But that’s small consolation. Once political violence is in the mix it can very quickly spiral out of control
I think years of pushing for laws to make it legal to run over protesters in their pavement princesses is going to lead to a lot more road rage incidents. Idiots are already emboldened by putting on that red cap, now they have a vehicle too.
I hope this is quickly exposed as a poorly planned inside job, but even then it won’t matter to the Base. Y’all Qaeda has moved into full on terrorist demagogue territory.
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. Also the SS did not do their job. Before the attempt on Trump, people in the crowd were pointing out that guy in camouflage on the roof of that building, yet the secret service/law enforcement did not respond. And the counter sniper waited until the perp took numerous shots to respond.
I forgot that SS also stood for Secret Service…
Maybe the terms will merge when fascism takes the presidency in the US
USSS.
The acronym is USSS.
Some of his detail might wish they were SS but we’re not there… Yet.
Was just talking to my Dad about this, he was saying from what he heard (he watches more news than I do) the local law enforcement basically said, “Well, he was outside the perimeter, so there wasn’t really anything we could do,” as their explanation for how it happened.
It’s going to be interesting to see this whole investigation play out and what comes up for motives and such.
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Yeah, weird how a registered Republican sniper was given all the time in the world to get into a sniper nest with eyewitnesses but was then shot to death immediately after firing.
I wonder how the narrative will change if it turns out it was a victim/relative of his (rape or fraud/failure to pay)
I think you’re right. I think this is going to cause an increase on events like this for sure. Trumps base is going to want to send a message.
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That was the CIA, this was a grassroots effort
By a registered Republican, smh. Real leftists don’t skip range day.
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I can’t come up with any retort to that
So you have KNOLL response?
Idk man, I have it on good authority that JFK’s head just did that all on its own.
Lies!
Back, and to the left.
Back, and to the left.
Yeah, but they had multiple people, magic bullets, and CIA backing.
Actually I’m pretty sure this is what happened.
Two bullets hit JFK. Definitely different bullets. First one went through his neck and into the guy in front of him.
Second bullet demolished his skull.
What I think happened, or the theory I heard that makes sense. Was a 50 cal mounted to the car in front of him. In the chaos it lurched and the person had poor finger discipline and blasted JFK almost point blank
Yeah this is the most believable conspiracy theory if it wasnt simply one bullet
But JFK was struck twice?
Today is my birthday. Waking up to “Trump dead” headlines would be absolutely killer. What I got was “Trump gets ear pierced on stage”.
Happy birthday!
He missed his chance to blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime
You better lose yourself in the music
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Says the guy who blew his first chance on Mom’s spaghetti
Em got it done in round 2 though! Who knows what can happen!
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This happened today and this image already looks like it’s been reposted for over a decade
The tags are probably sports related. It likely HAS been reposted for decades.
I’m glad he survived. His life should be full in quantity and empty of quality.
78 seems like a pretty full quantity if you ask me.
but also because him dying doesn’t solve the problem. people forget that he’s actually unpopular. him getting replaced would benefit the party. and the real problem is the entire fascist party. their agenda won’t change with TFG dying.
Huh? Yeah, he’s unpopular but voter turnout is such arse, that there is rarely a blowout capable of preventing electors from playing silly buggers with counts.
If he’s dead, who inherits his mantle and has a likely shot at getting enough popular votes that US fascists can pretend they won but were narrowly cheated?
the problem is how unpopular Biden is right now
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Long term it would help the party. In the short term it would hurt them. I expect a LOT of infighting is gonna happen once Trump is gone.
Yeah, Trump is a stupid target and this is bad timing. Now if someone had gone after the Supreme Court a year or three ago, that would’ve been a good thing. Even now it might still be. But Trump? Terrible choice of targets. He’s…his relevance has already happened. It’s too late for his death to be positive in any significant way.
Hell, I suspect that it might boost the Republican candidate, whoever is selected to replace him, unless they wind up having a really nasty fight where various supporters get extremely entrenched against each other. But that’s not likely - Republicans are very tribalist, once they select a candidate, most of them are going to support him, regardless of how badly they were speaking of him five minutes ago when they were in full support of his opponent.
He’s always enjoyed that. He’s clearly not a person of quality. Fuck the orange demon
Yeah he should just rot and die alone in prison where he belongs.
Can someone fill in whats happened?
Assassination attempt on Trump
That’s not what we need right now, damn.
Also Darwin Núñez played a match about the same time frame, so funnily enough those two comments must have overlapped
Someone tried to kill Donald Trump.
I love that none of us are pretending Trump’s a good person just because someone tried to kill him.
Trump is an Asshole and this won’t change under any circumstance. And this pice of shit Musk who’s now saying “Oh No now let’s vote all for Trump because he got shot” just makes new excuses to openly support Trump but don’t get hated as much for it
they fired, and they missed. they fired again, missed again.
this has been stuck in my head since hearing about it
But did they have themselves a popsicle?
he woke up later with a popsicle stick in his mouth
Mf forgot they were playing on death sentence difficulty
If I understood the news correctly, the shooter was actually listed as “Republican”. Do you actually expect such a person to get something that important right?
Gotta say, a lot of people here talking a lot of shit about someone who actually had the balls to at least try to do something direct considering none of y’all have taken a shot at it yourselves in Minecraft.
You can’t complain about someone failing to do your personal final fantasy when they at least tried to achieve what you haven’t.
I’m certain some of you legitimately can’t for personal reasons, but if you can and you’re not doing it either, you can’t complain that they missed skibbity.
After all, as Dr. Doofinshmirtz once said, “you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take”.
If you’re interested in doing more, learn more here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHEgHjJvR94
This reads like written by 3 different people
I shared my opinion on this matter.
Reddit banned me.
What was your opinion?
Lemmy banned them too
I’m not taking my chances, at least.
