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    Wait… wasn’t he just giving a “press conference” about how grocery prices have gone up? If not price controls, what will hinder price gouging?

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        Only by giving massive amounts of no-strings-attached government money to Smithfield and ConAgra while lightly scolding them about shrinkflation can we address high grocery costs!

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        He will simply tell the companies they have to lower the prices, and they will say “no way” and he will say “way”.

        Problem solved.

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      Weren’t you paying attention? He’s not going to use price controls, he’s going to use container size controls.

      It can’t be communist if it’s big!

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      We need to De-Woke the agricultural sector. There are too many regulations. Not enough people can keep a cow in their back yard and sell milk to the neighbors.

      Retvrn to Tradition!

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      Tax cuts for the elite. It will trickle down to cheaper groceries. Read the art of the deal already.

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      Did he actually say that? I just saw the dumbass holding up two sizes of tic tacs and idiotically proclaiming “tHiS iS iNfLaTioN”.

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      Well, we’re still waiting for the details on that “amazing” healthcare plan him and his team lied about having when they tried to repeal the Affordable Care Act, so I’m sure it’s just around the corner!

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    Surely linking affordable groceries to communism will make affordable groceries less popular rather than communism more popular.

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    The reason publicly traded companies continually raise prices is the pressure from Wall Street to continually make more money than you did last month, last quarter, last year.

    Say you sell 1,000,000 hamburgers and make a 20% profit on it.

    Unless you make more money next year, selling that same 1,000,000 hamburgers, Wall Street is going to punish you. They don’t care that you’re profitable.

    You either sell more burgers or raise prices.

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      Yeah. They treat profit like a necessary business expense or a cost, and balance their budgets around it. Which perverts a fundamental of economics.

      I’m starting to think the stock market is just a really awful bank that is sometimes also a ponzi scheme.

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        The stock market IS a ponzi scheme, and the embodiment or everything that’s wrong with capitalism. It encourages greed and drives enshittification. It’s a system by the wealthy, for the wealthy (like 90% of stock is owned by the richest 10%, and most of that is owned by the top 0.1%). Expectations of infinite growth on a planet with finite resources is insane.

        Most of the human population would prefer (and benefit from) less greed, less enshitification, cheaper housing, cheaper groceries, cheaper products — than the possibility to own a share of evilcorp.

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        A while back, Exxon set a record for any company in a quarter and everyone was going “Wooo!” and I was like “Well, gas prices are going up then… Think about next quarter and this quarter next year…”

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      It is because enough people don’t bother to price shop.

      They have to turn inventory or they will quickly go broke.

      If you switch to the cheaper option they have to react. If you shrug and pay, they win.

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      Or complicit in the grift to steal more money from working americans. Or a fucking moron!

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    Kamala’s plan is some sort of vague “stop price gouging,” but Trumps plan is even vaguer. His plan was to hold a press conference next to some sausages and say that his administration would lower prices. He gave even fewer specifics.

    His actual plans are project 2025.

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      He has no actual plans beyond “stay out of prison by going to the White House.”

      Project 2025 is the plan of all the people he’s going to appoint if he gets in.

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    I AGREE, instead Kamala should do what Trump did and give us all multiple stimulus checks. Like how about every month. We can call it “Universal Basic Income.”

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    I mean… Price control is kinda anti-capitalist, he’s not wrong.

    And no I will not vote for Donald Trump.

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      IDGAF what they call it. Lower the damn prices! Sacrifice a billionaire to the capitalist god or something.

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        Maybe $10 000 to each person per year in food stamps, and $5000 extra payment if they maintain a BMI under 25.

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          That just puts more money in the hands of Big Food.

          Now, if the food support was limited to only be spent on fresh or frozen vegetables and fruit, that would help the kinds of farmers that aren’t already getting subsidized.

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      Price control is kinda anti-capitalist, he’s not wrong.

      It’s authoritarian, but still very capitalist in function. The state is regulating the rate at which you can raise prices, not who profits from the sales.

      And no I will not vote for Donald Trump.

      I wouldn’t lose too much sleep over the decision. In the end, I predict this election will be decided 6-3.

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        I wouldn’t lose too much sleep over the decision. In the end, I predict this election will be decided 6-3.

        Only if they agree to hear the case. I’m not sure ACB or Gorsuch like him as much as people think. The elections are run by the states. Unless a super close Florida Bush/Gore situation happens I doubt it will even reach the SC.

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          Your comment is pure denial and cope. The MAGA fascists are putting the people into place to steal Georgia’s election as we speak.

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            NC governor is a Democrat (and was on Harris’s short list for VP)

            While the legislature is Republican run our AG & Secretary of State are both Democrats and it will be quite difficult for Republicans to gum up the election I’m sure they will try though

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              Trump openly conspired with Georgia election officials to try and flip the race. That’s a big part of the list of indictments against him.

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      I need to eat every day whether it’s profitable for Jim Perdue or not. Capitalism is a terrible way to run food distribution or healthcare.

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          That’s what they tell us anyway. What actually breeds innovation is giving people the opportunity to explore their own talents and pursue their interests from a place of stability. Things that interfere with that include tying healthcare to employment, allowing receiving healthcare to bury someone in debt, tying public education to local income levels, allowing pursuing higher education to bury someone in debt, inadequate public mental health services, allowing the minimum income for a full time employee to be below the amount required to meet basic needs for the average family, allowing work time for a full time employee to exceed a reasonable limit that would allow the employee to spend time with children, take care of their own health, and pursue hobbies and other interests.

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            That’s what they tell us anyway. What actually breeds innovation is giving people the opportunity to explore their own talents and pursue their interests from a place of stability. Things that interfere with that include tying healthcare to employment, allowing receiving healthcare to bury someone in debt, tying public education to local income levels, allowing pursuing higher education to bury someone in debt, inadequate public mental health services, allowing the minimum income for a full time employee to be below the amount required to meet basic needs for the average family, allowing work time for a full time employee to exceed a reasonable limit that would allow the employee to spend time with children, take care of their own health, and pursue hobbies and other interests.

            If that was the case then there would be European companies who innovate. I can think of very few in comparison to American companies, especially in tech and medicine. (BioNTech and Spotify come to mind, struggling to think of others)

            Otherwise, what you’ve listed as things that interfere with innovation, I see more as evidence of things like modern indentured servitude and income driven inequality. All of those things are huge problems for our society and many of those things are lesser problems in a lot of European countries, but the rich people are still innovating here regardless.

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      The informed consumer is a great price control in the free market.

      This is why I don’t buy whatever crap that Trump flogs or for that matter tic tacs.

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        The informed consumer is a great price control in the free market.

        What does that even mean? We all see prices rising.

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          Price controls could lead to shortages, which is reportedly common in Communist countries—which I’ll concede to Trump;

          however, Trump is hardly better with his flogging crap, the encouragement of stupidity, the anti-science, and the tariffs—why do Trump supporters—presumably a vast majority being consumers—support tariffs, quotas, and seem indifferent to IP (“intellectual property”) trolls and their lobbies? Why do they oppose abortion (and perhaps contraceptives) when fewer children means less need to purchase stuff?

          Perhaps price controls for basics are needed, but this is not the ideal; and if you support price controls because you favour socialism, then again, Trump is kinda right here.

          note: if I was American, I would not vote for Trump or pretty well any Republican.

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            Price controls could lead to shortages

            Nope. That’s just the line the profiteers feed the most gullible of their victims so they’ll defend their corrupt practices.

            which is reportedly common in Communist countries

            You know what’s also common in nominally communist countries?

            Government corruption, wealth and power being concentrated in the hands of a few privileged people, and that privileged class tricking their victims into being their advocates.

            Exactly like capitalism in general, and especially US capitalism.

            which I’ll concede to Trump

            Well that’s just stupid and unnecessary. It’s not like he has a point or anything. he’s just throwing buzzwords at the board and seeing if any sticks

            why do Trump supporters—presumably a vast majority being consumers—support tariffs, quotas, and seem indifferent to IP (“intellectual property”) trolls and their lobbies? Why do they oppose abortion (and perhaps contraceptives) when fewer children means less need to purchase stuff?

            For the same reason that you think price controls lead to shortages and that any country calling itself communist is an accurate representative of what communism is: lots of internalized propaganda.

            Disclaimer that shouldn’t be necessary: I’m not a communist or in favor of communism. It’s far too authoritarian, inflexible, and unprepared for when the real world doesn’t correspond with theory.

            Perhaps price controls for basics are needed

            No “perhaps” about it. The profiteers have demonstrated that they will always raise prices when not forced not to, far beyond their customers’ ability to survive in the long run. It’s long past time to make social murder illegal.

            but this is not the ideal

            No, the ideal is that all companies are worker owned co-ops so that the socially good and the fiscally good are inseparable so that there’s no systemic incentive to profiteering.

            We’re not getting there within any of our lifetimes, if ever, though, so let’s focus on what is already possible and necessary: price controls.

            if you support price controls because you favour socialism

            Nah, I support price controls because they’re necessary to reduce a pandemic of standardized plundering of the poor. Call it socialism or don’t, just get that boot off my neck.

            then again, Trump is kinda right here.

            Nope. Not even kinda. He doesn’t know what communism is any more than he knows what asylum is, how to prevent forest fires, or how to deal with hurricanes.

            The man is a colossal idiot who happens to be tragically effective at self-promoting. He’s also a fascist and the poster boy for malignant narcissism.

            You do not, under any circumstances ever, have to concede ANYTHING to him as, even on the incredibly rare occasion that he’s right about literally anything, he got there by accident.

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              If necessities were socialized: clean, decent food, water, shelter, sustainable utilities, including internet, clean, safe, efficient public transportation, basic quality (durable, not hideous, well-made, well-fitting) clothing allowance, natural resources, clean air, land; and designer clothing, mansions, caviar, champagne, Bugattis, Fendi bags were capitalized, profits and capital, private holdings over a certain amount were taxed at 1950s rates of 93%, I’d be completely fine with that.

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            We were talking about price controls, I failed to see how any of that well known stuff is related. Spend more time focusing on your own country.

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      I should have known, when I read all the comments posted under the story I read about it earlier. Nonetheless, there is the ongoing issue wrt Palestinians and their plight.

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        there is the ongoing issue wrt Palestinians and their plight.

        which is why we shouldn’t (totally) dump on Oliver, Stein, and West.

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          Someone elsewhere said Blackrock is writing her economic policy but I’ve not found anything during a brief search, so I can’t verify it. If they send the URL, I’ll post it.

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              Yes, how dare I allow anyone else who may have sources to post, or sleep? Such a horrible thing. I have the YT by this morning, but being such a horrible person, I have to attend to personal duties, before I can watch it and decide whether or not to post.

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    Only words left in the conservative vocabulary: “Socialist” and “communist”