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I’m trans and I’m terrified, terrified for my queer friends and family, terrified for Ukraine and Palestine, and terrified for the planet.
If you didn’t vote or voted for this piece of shit, fuck you. If you voted for him, you deserve the massive inflation and shit he’s about to put you through.
I’m straight and white, and I am also terrified for my queer friends and family. I figured Israel was always a lost cause but Ukraine is going to be so fucking stupid and painful when they get starved after we offered support.
If you didn’t vote or voted for this piece of shit, FUCK YOU
Harris got 15 mill less than biden. Trump got same number of votes basically.
They just slept
America made it clear that they will not vote for a woman. Especially a woman of color. Fuck America
I suspected if she lost it was because she was a woman. Others are saying it was all Gaza and they didn’t vote in protest. A commentor replied to me showing the margins are like 10s of thousands in one state.
She seem way better than Hillary too. Hillary reminded me of my grandma but in all the bad ways.
Guess Trump may nuke the whales. Tried to nuke a hurricane.
Anyone who didn’t vote in protest needs to shut the fuck up now. I don’t wanna hear another damn word out of them regarding Gaza, or moralizing to the world. They will now get to see Gaza be dismantled.
They really stuck it to the Democratic party, hope they’re fucking happy that their solution to the Gaza situation is to accelerate wiping Palestinians from existence. Blood is on their hands now more than anyone that did the bare minimum to keep democracy alive.
Nobody learned the lesson from 2016. We can’t stick it to the dems until the GOP goes away.
I bet the dems are high fiving each other right now from all the donations they are going to get.
We can’t change how people work, adopting republican policies and compromising your democratic policies decreases turnout with the base.
We can only tell the democratic politicians to do what they need to do to win, which isn’t triangulating yourself 2 inches to the left of the republican to try to chase “moderate republicans” who prefer diet fascism to the real thing.
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The genocide will continue until moral improves.
Either that, or that America will not vote for the status quo again.
Trump is the status quo as well so apparently they will
He really, really isn’t.
No he really is. What is more status quo than a rich white guy as president with conservative values?
Trump is campaigning on making massive changes to American domestic and foreign policy. I don’t like the changes he’s pursuing, but he is absolutely not running on the status quo. And that is, in fact, exactly what won him the race.
If he was just running on the status quo, he wouldn’t be a threat to democracy. Deporting 20 million people isn’t the status quo. Repealing civil rights isn’t status quo. Attacking or ending NATO isn’t status quo. Abandoning Ukraine isn’t status quo. Befriending Russia isn’t status quo.
Yes, Trump is a conservative white guy. But type of thinking, focusing on identity groups and demographics, is what has got us here. Kamala herself is a historically novel nominee, she was new in terms of personal identity. But she wasn’t actually offering anything other than the same milquetoast centrism of Biden.
This is the problem. People are hurting. Trump actually had something to offer these people. He said, “elect me, I’ll throw out all the immigrants, and by doing so I’ll lower the cost of housing and increase wages!” It’s a horrible, evil, and long-term unproductive solution, but he was actually offering SOMETHING. Democrats offered no meaningful answers to the things people are actually hurting on. The only thing Democrats offered were wonky dismissals of economic concerns by citing official inflation numbers and calculated real wage gains. (Ignoring figures like ratio of median housing cost to median wage.)
People are in pain right now. People are on the edge, driven to the brink by late-stage capitalism. Biden was a milquetoast centrist, but he was able to barely eek out a win by running on a lot of progressive promises in 2020. He walked away from a lot of those commitments and governed as the centrist he is. Harris offered just more of the same. Neither offered real meaningful solutions and proved completely incapable of handling the crises at hand.
Trump again, he actually offered solutions, or at least something that seems like a solution. Like it or not, he WAS the change candidate of 2020. And that is what won him the election.
Well seems like he won twice on going back to the 1950s status quo.
That is NOT the status quo. You’re talking about someone promising to make utterly massive changes to US foreign and domestic policy. People are hurting for change, and if they can’t find that change on the left, they’ll find it on the right.
They just slept
Look at this snoozer. Absolutely sleepymaxxing. A bedtimepilled pillowcel. Got a blanket under his head just lost in the sleepy sauce.
The Democrat vote is ALWAYS 15 million below Biden’s RECORD popular vote number! Trump got HUGE numbers for a Republican. Do your homework, and stop trying to create a narrative using COVID numbers.
The narrative that people voted In the 2020 and chose not too in 2024? Doesn’t matter what dem numbers were in the past cause all it proves is how many people will consistently vote dem.
I’ll tell you what the shock really is me. People voted for Biden not because they hated Trump but something Biden had that dem candidates going back to 2008 didn’t have.
You are out of your mind
Which part?
Biden. People just wanted someone new in charge of COVID.
Well that’s something different he had from previous dems from. Dude lucked out with great timing that alone moved 15 million people to vote.
I know it wasn’t misogyny because John Kerry, Obama, and Harris were all in the 60 mil range.
You realize the US population gets bigger over time, right? There should always been more voters every year because we have more people every year.
The difference between 2020 election and all the others was sudden and large. Not population based.
Being that I’m not transgender or American I don’t think I can personally understand everything you’re feeling right now. All I can say is be strong for yourself, and your friends and family; we all need to support each other if we are going to get through this.
And a double fuck you to anyone who voted for Trump.
You’re still going to get fucked. The whole planet is going to get fucked. The MAGAs abolishing the EPA and going full-throttle on fossil fuels is going to make sure of that.
The climate is one thing that both would fuck the world.
That’s a done deal at this point. The Democratic party would have slowed the rate of increase, but given the tipping points we’ve already crossed, we require actual massive amounts of removal of greenhouse gases, and major geo-engineering projects to try and prevent everything coming our way from climate change.
This is less of a politics post, and more of a ‘we’re so fucked, and most people aren’t aware of how fucked we are that they think what the Democratic Party wants to do for climate would actually do a damn thing’
Seriously, at this point it would require a complete overhaul of both our political system and economic system such that life would be unrecognizable to forestall gigadeaths.
If China and India both go hard on climate action, that may be enough to turn it around. Because of their geographical position, they’re both much more firmly in the line of fire. But the US being out of the game for at least the next four years definitely makes things much, much harder.
Not even there.
All I have to say:
What…
The…
Fuck…
What about the party that lost the election, quite possibly by choosing to enable a genocide further, as it deemed that more important than winning the election? What about the party, that chose to ignore the devastating effects of inflation on normal Americans, instead of providing a concise plan of revamping the economy, as that would anger its billionaire donors?
Why blame the people instead of the Democratic party leaders, who remained steadfast at the side of the elites, leaving the people to be peddled to by Trump?
“what about…”
I don’t doubt that the Dems had a poor campaign. However, I’m totally allowed to blame the dumbasses that voted for fascism. These dumbasses are ultimately the ones that filled the box for our authoritarian future. I’ll say it again: fuck them.
About one hundred million people declined to vote at all.
And fuck them, too. They’re just as responsible.
They are all bad. They all work together against positive change.
Hope you’re fucking happy.
I would have been happy if the Dems had stopped supporting genocide, saving tens of thousands of lifes and then winning in a landslide.
Thats what i advocated for for months. But the party would rather risk losing the election to Trump than stop sending weapons to a genocide.
So you’re happy with where we are today?
I sure am. Watching libs seethe is hilarious
chose to ignore the devastating effects of inflation on normal Americans, instead of providing a concise plan of revamping the economy
Come on. The party in office when inflation came back down. Inflation rate is near normal now. Blame them for not communicating effectively or blame voters for looking at cumulative inflation over four years, rather than resulting inflation
The only silver lining is that maybe the Republicans will just forget about trans people until it’s time to stoke the hate again for the next election.
But yeah, very disappointing result. The country was willing to vote in a twice impeached convicted felon (whose sentencing will be postposed indefinitely, I suspect) over a gasp! brown woman.
My little vote was a piss in the ocean, but the DEMOCRAT PARTY had the power to run a good candidate, to fund a GREAT CAMPAIGN, but instead, they put Trump in power. It was so bad it has to be deliberate.
And they got you to blame ME for it. Your fellow citizen.
The power elites win.
PS. I voted for Kamala, but I hate this shit of you blaming individual voters, like they aren’t just trying to vote for a better life for themselves.
They can’t vote for a better life for themselves by not voting.
Surely you didn’t expect another 81+ Million democrat turnout like Biden got, did you? That will not happen again, not for a long time. It’s an outlier by a good bit. Even with the Libertarian and Green candidates it was ridiculous what happened last election, and is really only explained by Covid and people not having other things to do. Check out the link to Wikipedia popular vote numbers below, or just look at the graphic. It’s startling. You got as much as Democrats could give.
Massive Republican Turnout.
Exit polls show 12% of lgbtq voters voted for Trump. 12% of lgbtq voters voted to be jailed, castrated, and discriminated against by their country. That is not only terrifying but also embarrassing.
Jews for Hitler vibes.
It didn’t go well for them either. Being “one of the good ones” won’t save you.
I hate this timeline
THIS is the bad place!
Looks like Trump is going to touch us all in the bad place.
Hopefully Chidi and Eleanor will save us all soon.
Even Jason figured this one out.
Forking orange shirtball
I thought we escaped the worst timeline where Trump won in 2020, but it seems we never left it. This is even worse… packed SC from the start, granted complete immunity right from the get-go…
My only solace is that people endure far worse and manage to find some level of happiness. So just gotta endure and take care of each other and our own and keep searching for daylight
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There’s a good chance for another major pandemic, and we’re passing the global warming point of no return.
For better or worse, the US was the biggest player on the planet; now that we’ve fumbled, I think the world is done for. Maybe China could have risen to take the US’s place, but they’re stumbling toward an economic catastrophe, India has their own problems, and Russia is exposed as a bit player. The EU could have been a shining beacon, but they’re struggling with their own rise in fascism. Who else is there? A South American country? They’re barely holding on to their own economies. Canada? Too small - I mean, big country, but not very big population (1/10th of the US). And the US is big enough that when we go down, we’re going to drag a lot of the planet with us. Shit, thanks to Russia and Israel, we’ve been edging into WWIII. Trump’s senile enough to press the button, I have no doubt, and he’ll be completely surrounded by moronic Yes-men this time, with no one to try to talk sense into him. Maybe a relatively quick, fiery end would be better than a painful spiral.
We’re done as a planet. Some creatures will survive, but humans have used up all the readily available low-tech surface resources - oils, coals, metals - so anything that evolves intelligence after us won’t make it past the stone age. And then, the sun will die.
At least we have more solid evidence to the answer to Fermi’s paradox. It’d be a bigger question if we weren’t rushing toward our own extinction.
I’d thought the Great Filter would be a more formidable event than a reality TV host
Oh, man. That’d be a book. Or maybe a chapter in an alternate version of Hitchhiker’s.
It always turns out to be the equivalent of a reality show host.
Count us out. Canada has our own Trump wannabe lined up. He’s been like 20-30 points ahead and we’re no where close to election time.
Ontario the biggest province stayed home and didn’t bother to vote out the conservative premiere who has been fucking shit up. They all stayed home and handed him another majority. In a year or so we will elect our analog of Trump. Make no mistake he’s stocked the party full of MAGA and Proud Boys. I’m not being dramatic. It’s literally what it is. Within 4 years Canada will be openly aligned with Trump.
Yeah, I kinda figured when the truck convoy started out there you guys had your own problems.
And it hates us ❤️
America is a country full of stupid people.
51% of voters at least.
Whatever helps you cope.
We are so fucked. The repercussions of this election are going to effect everything from SCOTUS to county courts. This is so utterly disgusting. People looked at the shit spewing from his mouth and said, “Yes, represent me.”
Fuck this country.
Fuckimg depressing that probably 1/3rd of people didn’t vote. And of the 2/3 of those that did - most of them voted Trump.
So basically a minimum of 1/3 but more likely more than 1/2 of Americans wanted Trump and the Republican Party to represent them. They voted for:
- Russian dominion over Ukraine and further aggression on its neighbours
- Chinese genocides and aggression on its neighbours
- mass deportation of vulnerable and productive members of society (he calls them immigrants)
- men controlling women’s health and avoidable deaths
- oppression of LGBTQ+
- racism
- fraud
- corruption
Why? Because they believe that Trump is going to make them richer.
Nice people.
Putting all that aside, because most people don’t delve into details, he is a damn idiot! People used to laugh and ostracize people like Trump not so long ago. Why is this suddenly okay to [long list of non-political things he said and did]?
“He’s like me.”
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This SCOTUS is the real issue. By the end of this term, Trump will have appointed 7 of 9 justices if Thomas and alito take the opportunity to retire.
So, I always thought it was just a mean bully thing to say, but, as a group, Americans really are dumber than a bag of rocks.
It’s not just Americans buddy. Open your eyes.
Lots of countries are stupid, but not that many have >50% of their population be that incredibly stupid. Usually it’s closer to 20-30%. America takes the gold though.
Must be nice to live in a world where you think USA is the only country to elect a moron. I’m Canadian as well. Just wait.
Look at Italy, Hungary, Slovakia, UK and Germany’s AFD. Hate is potent political fuel that’s burning hotter and hotter.
The Philippines elected the son of the most brutal dictator in their history. So im really not sure about that.
50% of voters isn’t 50% of the population. It’s closer to 20-25%
I used to be the guy who said things like: you can’t just call a whole country stupid. Bush was bad, but mistakes happen. Okay, bush was bad, what makes you think his son is better? Got it, so you learned that he’s not better. You voted a second time? Okay that’s kinda stupid if you ask me. And now? What are you even supposed to say anymore? A bag of rocks can at least be hucked at some american
“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
Aaand have the worst aim possible when it’s actually needed. USA is known for guns, ffs, you had so many chances >_>
We deserve to die. We really do. I wish my race was dead I wish my gender was dead. It’s over
The real question is “if they are so stupid why did you lose?” Why didn’t your superior intellect lead you to victory?
Because stupid people don’t listen to logic or reasoning.
Good point. The stupids aligned with the evils on this one.
They are also american. The lead brain doesn’t stop at the colour of their team
Now watch the effects ripple through the world. Now that a guy like him can be elected, politicians around the world will take note and use the same playbook. And it will probably work.
We already felt it in France with the 2016 US election, I can’t imagine what the next decade will be like…
As a Canadian who has watched our politics slowly try to mimic America’s, I’m terrfieid. As it is our conservative provincial premier is ripping out bike lanes on city streets that have apartments being built right now that offers significantly more bike parking than car parking. Its backwards progress, a signifcant amount of the lanes were just built and now we gotta spend more money ripping them out because some fat conservative feels offended he is too unfit to cycle.
I’m fearful for my trans family and friends. Poilievre and Trump is a terrible combination. We are going to need real grassroots political organizing to protect each other and civil disobedience in large numbers to slow the fascists in their persecution and environmental damage. Of course this will be harder than ever but we need to stop waiting for electoral politics to fix things and take action together.
First it was ontario is open for business, under pierre all of Canada will be “open for business”. They would sell every ounce of Canadian fresh water to just to watch a dozen people get rich.
We are going to need real grassroots political organizing to protect each other and civil disobedience in large numbers to slow the fascists in their persecution and environmental damage. Of course this will be harder than ever but we need to stop waiting for electoral politics to fix things and take action together.
The fact that I am not the only one thinking this is encouraging. The fact that I had to scroll this far to see such a correct comment is very discouraging and worrisome.
We’re getting it in Canada soon. Or in what’s left of Canada once fascist USA has finished with us. We have the most extreme, reactionary, hateful Conservative leader ever, who openly panders to fascists, and he’s some 20 points ahead of anyone else in the polls. My worst fear was him coming to power with Trump over the border, but that looks like what’s going to happen. I do not understand people.
Germany will follow suit and we will get a conservative hardliner (and sexist boomer) with CDU’s Merz who once voted to keep rape in a marriage legal. He will pave the way for the real fascists from the AfD, who will feel a lot more emboldened now.
I see everyone pointing the finger at the wrong place. We have two corrupt privately run parties. First past the Post literally puts us here. Places like Sweden won’t have this problem because they allow their politics to represent nuance rather than two corporate parties. Meanwhile, the UK which DOES have FPTP, is watching NHS get eroded by the same brand of neoliberalism that strip-mined the entire American economy.
I fear we’ve lost the chance to move to something better than FPTP and WTA.
So as someone from Hungary, we’ve been speedrunning this shit, and the way out seems to be that you need to absolutely publicly destroy the current Democratic party, and get something, anything, that promises positive change as an alternative to fascism. I’m not saying necessarily third party, but at least an internal revolution in the DNC with the new people publicly disclaiming the current people and the status quo.
Trust me, you don’t want 15 years of Trump like we had.
I’m pretty sure it’s going to feel a lot like the 1940s.
Watch as Australia votes in a corrupt copper next year for prime minister. Making the same bullshit promises.
Qld just shit the bed with the state election, that was bad enough, federal will be a shitshow :(
Canada has one lined up too.
I swear to god if bolsonaro is elected again here I’m gonna blackout drink for the first time in a decade
The Supreme Court will be changed for a generation. I’ll never see a moderate court again in my lifetime. Alito and Thomas will step down and Trump will appoint 40 year old partisans to the bench. The damage he is about to inflict on our institutions the next 2 years will be irreparable.
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Honestly, we were done after Gore.
2000 was the last time period we could have done something that wouldn’t result in unimaginable pain to deal with climate change.
Too many tipping points have already been crossed.
It should be noted here for younger people that the election was illegally stolen by the Republicans in Bush versus Gore. If that one thing hadn’t happened I believe we would be looking at a very different world today.
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I dunno what this was, but I ditched lemmy shortly after due to tankies. So it was probably something like “hey maybe Joe Biden wasn’t solely responsible for all the bad shit that exclusively Republicans actually did”. It’s [removed] now, so that’s my best guess.
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You reap what you sow, America.
It’s going to be wild seeing the mass round-up of all the Latinos who voted for him.
you likely won’t see it, as freedom of the press will likely be one of the first things to go out the window
Oh no. You will see it. I deliver to quite a few businesses that have Latino employees on Visas waiting the required time for citizenship.
Couple of them were flabbergasted that I was voting for Harris, lol.
oh i know it’ll happen, and some people will see it. but it won’t be on any news feed, and if it is, they’ll just be labeled as “subversives” or something similar
everyone needs to take everything they thought they knew about this country and flush it down the toilet. because it’s gone.
Look how tight the labor market got when COVID took a million people out of the workforce. Trump’s talking about deporting 10 million workers and customers. You will absolutely see it, although it may be hard to connect the dots.
I know several. They think they’ll be spared for their green cards and citizenships. They don’t realize they are not Americans in the new sense of the word, and the rule of law has been suspended by the Supreme Court. They’re just further down the line. A fascist government needs “an enemy within”. They’ll keep churning through groups, redefining the enemy to hold on to power.
¿Qué esperabas? ¡Habla más alto! ¡No puedo oírte mientras te golpean en el autobús y te deportan!
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Lmao. You’re cute if you think fascists care about who is legal or not.
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You missed out the bit where your joke is funny.
All the immigrants in Springfield were legal, the response from Trump and others were “I don’t care”.
Look up the windrush scandal in the UK. They can just change the rules and if you can’t provide the required proof you’ll get deported.
They have plenty of tools to kick out legal citizens.
Check out Operation Wetback and Wetback 2. The US has already sent US citizens to Mexico for “looking too Mexican” with military operations, and towns have done it in the past 10 years all on their own.
You dumb fucks.
Personally, it kinda feels like a weight’s been lifted. Now I can let go of the last shred of pretense of this country being anything other than a fat fucking joke.
I don’t wanna hear any more moralizing and complaining from young leftists who can’t even be bothered to perform their civic duty and vote. Shut the fuck up. What happens to Gaza in 2025 is on you, not Harris or the Democrats. And when you bitch about the genocide, remember that you facilitated it. You gave up your duty and gave Netanyahu exactly what he wanted, a clear path.
Yeah it fucking is; they ran a fucking campaign that ignored the anti-genocide movement and instead decided they would win by campaigning with God damn Liz FUCKING Cheney and Laura FUCKING Bush instead of God damn Palestinian Americans and the anti-war movement. They wanted to win by going to the center, and they once again fucking LOST doing it, and it’s somehow the God damn left’s fault? Maybe, when your candidate loses with a strategy that the left tells you is a bad fucking idea, it’s time for you to shut the fuck up, not them.
To be fair those missing nearly 20 million voters who didn’t show up weren’t all or even mostly leftist and progressives. They’re your bog standard Democrats and independents that fucked everyone over.
I voted so I’m sure you won’t mind hearing from this leftist. The problem isn’t people who didn’t vote. The problem is how the Democrats ran their campaign. They continue to punch left to try to appeal to moderate right-wingers who will never vote for them!
Instead, they should have punched right and tried to appeal to their base on the left. Even the “scary far left people” like me.
How to do that? They should have come out against the genocide in Israel instead of sicking the police on the fucking protesters.
But sure blame random individuals and what they chose to do. That sure sounds like The first step in fixing a large structural problem. /s
Not that it matters anyway, we won’t be voting again not for real anyway.
You’ve learned nothing. If you can’t win against a convicted felon and rapist with a national party infrastructure and billions in the bank you are a completely useless party.
Enjoy being relegated to the dust bin of history with the Wigs now that it’s clear to even laymen that the king has no clothes.
Warm regards to those communities and users commenting the “both bad” mantra for months. Going to be a whole lot of surprised pikachus today
So it’s the leftists fault for not voting hard enough between two pro-genocide candidates. What were we supposed to do to vote against the genocide, vote third party?
Again with this both sides are the same crap? See, you’re idiots. And all the blood of Gaza is on people like you
No, the blood is on liberals who allow the Democrats to support a genocide and get away with it without losing their votes to an anti-genocide candidate. Also on the Democrats for making their platform regressive and boring in favor of their donors so people lose interest in them and they lose.
You’ll never wash it away.
Did you just invent a nonvoter leftist population in your head?
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Lol, sure buddy. The twenty million leftists in America
Even if that was true:
Guess you should have appealed to them instead of the fucking Republicans then.
Maybe google “2020 election count” and get back.
Regardless, me? Wtf do I have to do with anything, I wasn’t running. Hell, I’m not even registered Democrat.
Blaming the left for the party going right, alienating the BIPOC and queers voters she swore to protect as she made friends with the people who want to harm BIPOC and queers.
Yeah it’s our fault we weren’t too confident in someone who uses minorities as useful idiot pawns for a game of Chess she doesn’t wanna win.
Funny how you never blame moderate republicans who refused to switch their vote.
Maybe you should appeal to someone else next time?
What if he ushers in world peace? Will that be on them or on Trump or will that be because of you and whatever DNC stooge is being anointed next?
Kind of an unsatisfying but still well deserved “TOLD YOU SO” moment… I knew those fuckers would be moronic enough to vote for this shit faced fascist again, while everyone told me to expect a Harris landslide… The fact that everyone talked about fucking grocery prices, tech research, housing prices, kids, abortions, and other (in the grand scheme of things) irrelevant bullshit that won’t matter anymore, while we’re literally about to seal the deal on our fate as a species, tells you clearly that no one wants to understand where we’re headed and what’s at stake.
But since nothing matters anymore, here’s some more predictions from yours truly:
- The US will turn into a fascist state (Tankies: AcKcHyUaLlY… ☝🏻🤡)
- Ukraine is going to get fucked by Russia, genociding them for good. The only chance here would be if NATO went in to liberate Ukraine before Trump is inaugurated, but neither Biden nor the rest of the West is going to have the balls for that.
- Moldova will follow right after.
- Taiwan will get fucked by China.
- The world will fall into an economic crisis due to the fall of TSMC.
- The rise of far right extremism & politics will continue within Europe.
- NATO Alliance will be practically gone.
- Far right countries in Europe will join Russia.
- Russia & Friends will invade and annex the Baltic States.
- The world globally failing to do anything to curb emissions will fall into a climate collapse. Causing food and water shortages, severe natural disasters, millions upon millions of climate refugees - which will get shot at the borders due to the now far right policies. All other issues above will amplify with the world state worsening and becoming more and more unstable.
TLDR: Nothing fucking matters anymore, we’re done. Thanks, you dumb fucks.
It’s going to be a world war. They wrote my whole family’s fucking epitaph with this election.
A liberal making measurable predictions? That’s new.
Ukraine is going to get fucked by Russia, genociding them for good.
- Genocide in Ukraine. “get fucked” isn’t very easy to measure.
Moldova will follow right after.
- Invasion of/genocide in Moldova are measurable
Taiwan will get fucked by China.
- Invasion of Taiwan. China invading China isn’t that farfetched.
The world will fall into an economic crisis due to the fall of TSMC.
- TSMC will fall or stop exporting chips.
The rise of far right extremism & politics will continue within Europe.
Come on, that’s like predicting the sun will rise.
NATO Alliance will be practically gone.
- How do we measure this? Reduction in military spending? Countries leaving NATO?
Russia & Friends will invade and annex the Baltic States.
- Invasion and annexation of the baltic states
The world globally failing to do anything to curb emissions will fall into a climate collapse. Causing food and water shortages, severe natural disasters, millions upon millions of climate refugees - which will get shot at the borders due to the now far right policies. All other issues above will amplify with the world state worsening and becoming more and more unstable.
Predicting a train that’s going off a cliff will continue to go off that cliff.
OK, we have 5, maybe 6 testable predictions. Do you want to give a timeframe so if they don’t happen, you can go back an analyze what caused you to believe these things at the time?
A liberal making measurable predictions? That’s new.
I don’t care about free markets.
How do we measure this? Reduction in military spending? Countries leaving NATO?
The US potentially leaves, and / or NATO members won’t actually uphold their promise to defend something like the Baltics, or only through token measures, moving the red line from Russia’s side further and further.
Predicting a train that’s going off a cliff will continue to go off that cliff.
Oh please. Even now you’re unsure on whether you want to call me a doomer or agree with my points. A bit earlier and it would’ve been the former.
Oh please. Even now you’re unsure on whether you want to call me a doomer or agree with my points.
The US continuing to do nothing about climate change, continuing to take a fascist approach to refugees, and Europe maintaining the conditions for the far right to continue to rise isn’t agreeable or doomer, it’s just obvious.
You’ve got a bunch of things that are so absurdly off base I can only hope you go back and critically examine how you were lead to believe them, two things that might happen if the US forces it, and then “and the sky will remain blue”.
You’ve got a bunch of things that are so absurdly off base I can only hope you go back and critically examine how you were lead to believe them
That’s absolutely hysterical to hear from a Ruscist / Tankie.
OK, so do we have any timeframes where you’ll go back and say “Huh, so Russia didn’t genocide Ukraine and then invade the baltics and Moldova, and NATO still exists, what did I misunderstand before and what can I do so I don’t get fooled again?”
Ruscist
The fall of the USSR was one of the greatest non-war-related humanitarian disasters of the 20th century by life-expectancy, infant mortality, alcoholism, really any metric except oil exports, do you really think I have any positive feelings towards the guys who orchestrated it and are wearing its corpse?
Tankie
Learning history and dialectical materialism is like having a crystal ball compared to an idealist understanding of history.
Thanks for proving my point oh so wonderfully.
(Tankies: AcKcHyUaLlY… ☝🏻🤡)
This is you.
Eh… I don’t know, man. I also see a darker future, but if Trump didn’t do anything like this in 2016, it won’t happen in 2024. He’s older, he’ll just want to play golf.
Edit: Downvoted. I just hope that the repubs get almost nothing of value done like they did in 2016-2020. Sucks that the abortion rights were taken away, sure. But they couldn’t repeal Obamacare or build their precious wall, all because they’re a bunch of incompetents. I hope it’s the same case this time around. I’m not too optimistic, but I can only hope.
They have the courts on their side now, along with the senate I think the house as well. They have a literal plan outlined on hundreds of pages on how to transform the US, which is not just Trump, but the majority of the Republican party - along with a bunch of outside influences.
Fuck. May Baphomet have mercy on our souls.
Trump alone isn’t as harmful as the republicans he represents. Trump will sign the bills the republicans bring him and he will mostly appoint republicans to positions of power and issue orders they tell him to.
On the plus side, liberals might come back from brunch and help resist certain bipartisan policies again. Deportations actually went down under Trump.
Trump will sign the bills the republicans bring him
Well shit!
Enjoy your erosion of rights dumbass.
Just shut the fuck up, man. Do you think I’m happy about all this? My rights have been eroded whether I like it or not. I’m just hoping that they are not eroded further. I don’t understand your stupid comment.
Unless I misunderstood you and you’re in fact a republican threatening me, in which case, doubly go fuck yourself.
No, you just sound like an idiot if you think shit is not going to hit the fucking fan. Day fucking one he’s deporting people. It’s going to get ugly. So stop making it seem like it’s going to be okay.
I just wished you stopped name-calling me since it makes you sound like a edgelord teen.
You’re entitled to your opinion. I understand that you’re angry. So am I. But I can’t do shit about what’s about to happen. So I prefer to remain hopeful and do whatever I can to continue supporting the communities that will be affected by what the majority of Americans legitimately decided in democracy.
I understand wanting to be hopeful, I’m trying too. What you said originally sounded like you’re downplaying all of this, and I’m assuming that’s why you got downvoted so much.
I hope supporting our communities will be enough for this next 2 to 4 years, but only time can tell.
And I’m sorry I called you a dumbass.
No harm done, brother. Infighting is precisely what they want us to do. Sorry I reached the way I reacted too.
But anyway, the whole situation sucks, and I’m very aware of that. I decided not to give that orange asshole any more attention than the strictly necessary. And in turn I’ll focus my energy on signaling strength to those who are too sad and scared for the future.
Hopefully he gets a hole in one >ω<
I’m in shock… Good luck to you, American Democracy. It was nice knowing ya.
This time there’s no saying you didn’t know. This time there’s no saying “well more voters wanted different”. You get what you get, apparently enough people fall for “look over there” types of distractions in politics.
The clock to progress has been set back at least 10 years. I know digital-age low-information fascism is on its way to Canada and I am definitely not ready.
The clock to progress has been set back at least 10 years.
And all social progress has been set back 75 years.
90 years and in Germany.
This would be a very opportune time for the fediverse to be flourishing, because i dont see any single private company being able to provide a factual flow of information without getting blocked in the US.
Any folks on reddit wondering about this?
I voted for Harris but I can’t help but feel democrats did this to themselves. We’ve held a decent amount of power over the last 20 years but have done shockingly little. Just slowly letting our country dry and shrivel, leaving people increasingly desperate. Times like these make people seek change, ANY CHANGE, including voting for a dictator. Status-quo politics will fail every time during times like these. Who wants to die slowly?
All authoritarian countries are born from desperation. Chinese communist party, Nazi Germany, the USSR, Iran, North Korea and soon America.
They absolutely did. Harris couldn’t even commit to keeping Lina Khan on board.
Democrats are allergic to success.
Yeah, I think a lot of dem voters have grown really apathetic. Democrat leaders hardly do anything so there’s a sense of pointlessness. It feels like their pitch is “we’re gonna fix everything by doing nothing! Trust us guys it’s gonna work this time!”. Trump says a bunch of bat shit crazy stuff that at least makes seem hes committed. I think that’s the key here.
Because Democrats wanted to not look partisan instead of actually doing something with their majority
Exactly this. And if you point it out, you’ll get all these reasons why it was impossible for Dems because of X, Y and Z, but deathly silence when it comes to “well but why were the Rs able to accomplish so much”? They’re managing to get people into office and do things while the Dems constantly flounder - which leads to even worse election results as constituents lose more faith in their ability to lead.
It’s a self fulfilling prophecy at this point. Dems are ineffectual, so they struggle to win elections, so they struggle to have the power to do anything, thus looking like continued failures and ensuring more losses down the line.
The whole party needs to be severely gutted and reborn. Or a third party needs to rise up and start speaking for the average progressive voice that’s not being heard anymore.
It leads to apathetic voters too, democrats who dont bother voting because they figure it won’t change anything.
The dems have an identity crisis, they are so aggravatingly centrist in an attempt to swing votes, that they’ve become incredibly passive in their approach. Republicans are determined to completely restructure America according to their ideology. Dems are so politically inclusive in their approach, trying to cater to “far left”, left, centrist AND slight right conservative that they are paralyzed concerning policy. The very best thing they can do is a 5% tax cut for the working class? Seriously?
I think if they went further left with candidates like Bernie, existing dems would be much more compelled to go out and vote. Right now they have zero commitment, almost none of Biden’s policies came to fruition.
Watching the count last night, I remarked to my friend that Democrats lost people in the middle—the undecided voters whose existence I struggled to understand a few months ago—because they don’t actually have any principles and convictions; if they did, they’d eventually have to address issues that neoliberal capitalists want people to ignore, so they remain ineffectual and uninspiring.
Thus, white middle-class centrists who don’t actually comprehend the threat to minority groups drifted back into their nostalgic dreams of ‘smaller government’ and ‘lower taxes’, regardless of being presented no evidence those things will be delivered. In their minds, those theoretical ideals are more exciting than another establishment Democrat with no values who does nothing to speak to their woes.
I was born just before Reagan was elected. Growing up, I got the mostly mistaken impression that America had some of its shit sorted from Vietnam, WWII, and all that 20th century turmoil. A period of stability. Upward trending society. Reagan undid a lot of that progress.
I’ve been watching this country die, slowly, for 45 years. This has been such a weird time to be alive. Fighting over scraps we volunteered to subsist on instead of overthrowing corrupt and cruel systems. We had periods we thought we were recovering. We had hope. I feel today like there isn’t any left. Another four years of this, and it will be worse.
He struck a fatal blow. He used the tools of fear and rhetoric to do it. The weakness was there, the vulnerability. And here is the next evolution of American fear. We’re a country voluntarily destroying itself out of fear of our imminent destruction. We had everything, and we gave it away.
We heard the call of the void, and we’ve answered.
