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This implies Windows isn’t already enshittified, which is very much not the case.
Maybe that’s where the loop starts.
Windows has been shit waaaaaaaaay longer than any of those. MS always “fixes” it afterwards just enough to become usable
To be fair, Windows has huge, maybe even unreasonable, demands placed on it for backward compatibility due to corps not wanting to dump their 30 year old legacy software. And to Microsoft’s credit, they actually manage to do that pretty well while maintaining a reasonably stable OS. Most of the time, anyway.
The increasing interest in using Windows as a conduit for ads and data collection is what they really chafes me and is the primary reason I’m slowly moving away from Windows.
Exactly that. 7 was fine. I got used to 10 with tweaks. 11 will never touch any device I own. Fuck everything they’ve done to Windows in recent years.
Windows was shitty after the superior WinXP. I’d argue 98 was all I needed but XP was when disk scanning/defragmenting was baked in.
Windows 10 will be the last version of windows
Introducing Windows 11
Liars.
Winbloats was arguably the first one of this list to get enshitiffied. I remember being a 12 yo trying to find an alternative to winbugs because the microsoft account login was required. It’s got worse since then
Yeah its the original example of enshittification for sure
I’ve been here since Windows 3.0. I’m not sure when this mythical not-shit Windows was. There were a few I could live with, but none that were good.
I remember Windows 3.11 as pretty decent.
But Windows is unique in that it can fit a whole lot of shit in it. Way more than one could imagine.
Minecraft, Chrome etc are a 7 litre compost caddy of shit. Windows is a vast open country waiting to be turned into landfill of human waste.
if you can manage to get the IOT LTSC windows 11, it has a ton of that stuff removed by default. it makes it much faster and saves drive space.
The Win 10 IOT LTSC version does the same but better.
For those who don’t want 11 anyway.
And it was bad long before then.
Oh enshittification is coming for Windows. In the future. Like it hasn’t happened yet or wasn’t the first and worst of these companies for it to come for. But something that hasn’t happened yet, not in the past. Interesting.
Windows was good until Vista … then it seemed every second version was a pile of shit (7 good, 8 crap, 10 ok, 11 ugh).
I personally like 11 more than 10, mostly because its same as 10 but with better UI. 10 was very bland.
When did Minecraft get Enshittified?
Bedrock is pretty full of microtransactions, upsells, and ads, and the Mojang to Microsoft account migration for Java made a lot of people lose their accounts entirely.
But the core gameplay of both editions is still fine, and Java is consistently getting more mod-friendly with each release. You also don’t actually have to buy anything in Bedrock; it’s mostly just annoying.
I don’t really agree that Minecraft is getting enshittified, but I can see why others might.
And the whole chat censoring thing, and Microsoft doubling down on banning players on all servers for chat content in their own private servers.
bedrock was shit version from start, any respectable Minecraft player uses Java version.
I would also prefer to play on Java, however cross-platform support with Bedrock works really well. And that is actually quite the benefit. That way I can actually for once play a game with friends that are on other consoles or even on mobile.
Holup, they still continuing java version support?
You can avoid the transactions, but they really lure the kids in. I have to constantly tell my kid I’m not paying for that crap it’s exhausting
and the Mojang to Microsoft account migration for Java made a lot of people lose their accounts entirely.
Hey, it’s me. I contacted support and got a list of info they needed to fix it. I responded with that info and got a reply from a different person with a list of info they needed to fix it. I responded with that info and got a reply from a different person with a list of info they needed to fix it.
Then I said said “fuck this shit” and gave up to never play again.
EDIT: You probably guessed, but I should clarify that it was the same list of info, verbatim, each time. Just copy/paste response without reading that I’d already supplied it.
Windows was enshittified decades before it was even a concept. Grandaddy of enshittification.
gotta maintain that backwards compatible enshitification
when bedrock edition was introduced, I’d say
the marketplace, character creator and partnered servers all have very predatory monetization
thankfully java resisted enshittification for the most part
When they forced you to have a Microsoft account, which inturn made me loose my Minecraft account.
Can’t speak for OP, but I took a maybe ten-year hiatus from Minecraft and came back to find the were so baby more block types that it clogged my inventory and I felt overwhelmed and just stopped playing again.
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Damn, didn’t know that. I think I only played locally, but it was years ago. Do you need to sign in to play offline?
unless you’re playing offline on a cracked version, AFAIK
That’s a pity. I had play stations. My fiancee has an Xbox. With games like that, if she is playing on her Xbox, can she use the same license in the Xbox app that Windows throws in everyone’s face? Or perhaps if I sat down at a computer, can we both play the same place. (Cross play I guess I mean)
with Xbox being owned by Microsoft I’m not sure how that works anymore haha
consoles, phones (mobile does require Microsoft sign in now for online), basically anything that isn’t downloaded from the PC launcher runs bedrock (which you can download on PC as well, originally called windows 10 edition but now I think it’s just in the all-in-one PC minecraft launcher) it’s been a while since i last played on PlayStation but I could play online multiplayer without a Microsoft account, it may or may not be the same on Xbox.
also I just have to share my opinion that if you’re capable of playing split screen with someone (with almost everything being online and long distance nowadays the opportunities keep getting rarer) it’s so much more fun. so my suggestion is to cozy up on the couch with your fiancee and a blanket and grab a couple Xbox controllers =p
Yeah that’s the only way I’ve played co-op for Minecraft, on the couch. We had a good run of playing ARK together like that for a bit as well. But the controls for co-op have a few issues. If you go to the inventory or upgrades, the buttons for the other player will start to get wonky in their inventory or upgrades. Usually you all together can’t press buttons at all and have to exit until the other player finishes. If you look through a scope, it zooms on the other person’s screen as well, strange flaws that you would think they would have fixed but never did after many updates. Almost forgot. You might get yanked across the map and drown or not be able to see underwater if the other player gets to far or isn’t in the water. Think they fixed the water thing now, haven’t tried it yet though
But if you have a PlayStation, a short game that I really liked was “A Way Out”. Its a couch co-op jailbreak game. It was made really well I think. The screen even resizes giving each player “priority” parts where it intentionally makes one player take the lead and the other support. Never played another game that did co op so well.
oh jeez, I knew minecraft really got enshittified but I didn’t think it was that bad, even on bugrock edition
I’ll make sure to check it out, thanks for the recommendation :)
Micro$oft made some controversies on Minecraft (Minecraft owned by M$)
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You missed YouTube
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Windows on the first door.
Netflix happened before Reddit. Also, one could add Facebook and Amazon
Tantacrul made an HBomb-length video about Facebook recently. Def worth a watch.
Lol, this is hilarious. Thanks, Lemmy. It makes me feel better to know I’m not this far echo chambered. Good luck.
I had the same reaction. Enshittification came for Windows more than a decade ago, WTH are they thinking with this meme?
Wait, what happened to Minecraft? You’re just talking about the Bedrock edition, right?
…right?
Windows was the enshittification of DOS.
Windows was an improvement over DOS. NT was the enshittification of OS/2
For those wondering about what specifically happened with each:
Minecraft - microtransactions on Bedrock edition
Reddit - API changes killing 3rd party apps and streamlining ad delivery
Netflix - Pricing and library changes making it less and less of a good deal
Chrome - Manifest V3 killing uBlock Origin and similar content blockers
Windows - Increasing numbers of ads baked into the system, poorly-made features like Recall, and lack of hardware compatibility with the TPM 2.0 requirement
Thanks. I was legitimately confused by Minecraft because I never saw anything negative added to Java edition but I’ve never played Bedrock. Minecraft keeps pumping out free content updates so they seem like a good example of what to do for a company.
bedrock isn’t real
Additional stuff:
Reddit - becoming more and more like a typical social media website with profile customizations and instant messaging.
Netflix - ads and now only limited to one household.
Chrome - might be the bloatiest of all chromium based browsers
What? Windows has sucked for like 20 years. Google turned to shit when they got rid of “don’t be evil”
This would be true if it wasn’t for the blood trails. All these companies are thriving despite the enshitification; perhaps they’re thriving because of it.
