• mos@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    117
    ·
    2 years ago

    He’s angry because he lost his election. I’m angry because I fear we lost our country.

  • Subtracty@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    84
    ·
    2 years ago

    This is the most incredibly selfish thing I could possibly imagine. An old man moping about his inability to cling to power for another minute. As the next generations look on, begging for someone to act.

    He paints Trump as a villain (rightfully so) but is so pathetic that he is unable to rise to any heroism. At least go out swinging.

    Don’t know what I expected. But it is a slap in the fucking face to hear this.

  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    65
    ·
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    Somehow he’s not near the top of my list of people to feel sorry for.

    Biden has been absolutely consistent about is this belief that he believes that had he stayed in the race, he would have defeated Donald Trump again

    And this is one reason why. He was dead weight that held back Harris (or someone more capable that might have emerged if there had been a competitive primary).

    • zbyte64
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      2 years ago

      The best part of his presidency was letting Warren and Bernie do their own things for Labor and Consumers. It makes me wonder if Harris just had no ideas or if Biden (or his staff) was constantly knee capping her.

      • baines@lemmy.cafe
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        we’ll he’s not black or female

        downvoting me win’t change how racist/sexist america is

        • conditional_soup@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          2 years ago

          Nah, see, this is a problem. IIRC, a lot of Hillary’s 2016 campaign team got put in charge of the Kamalampaign, and it shows, imo. They basically ran the 2016 playbook from cover to cover, including the completely useless “we made no mistakes, Americans are just awful” retrospective. People were fucking jazzed when Kamala and Walz showed up, and Kamala’s left-leaning record was really being talked up. Then, they started talking about their platform, and it was somehow an even more uninteresting mish-mash of Biden 2020 and Clinton 2016. I’d say it was arguably closer to Hillary’s platform in 2016 than Biden’s; I remember Biden at least had some interesting talking points like rail revitalization.

          People are drowning, everyone feels broke because the working class hasn’t seen a meaningful wage increase for fifty years while everything has kept getting more expensive. There’s a frankly shocking amount of people for whom rent consumes 40% or more of their income; that’s half you paycheck gone just to not be homeless, and now you’ve got to pay everything else. I don’t blame folks for wanting to wreck the system. I blame the democrats for not reading the fucking room; the house is on fire and they’re offering little toy buckets and saying “sorry, we got bullied by our own party, so this is the best we can do. Btw, the fire is all in your head.”

          They could have done better, they just didn’t want to. For whatever reason, there’s strong elements in the Democratic party that are fucking convinced that the best way to win elections is to never offer anything of substance ever, and just rely on not being the other candidate.

  • pjwestin@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    57
    ·
    2 years ago

    And I’ll never stop feeling angry that he didn’t decide to step down after one term. The difference is that I’m going to live long enough to see the consequences of that decision.

  • JohnnyFlapHoleSeed@lemmy.worldBanned
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    54
    ·
    2 years ago

    Why don’t you save the country instead of being a moody bitch? It’s entirely possible to do the wrong things for all the right reasons, and still be correct

  • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    51
    ·
    2 years ago

    He’s just pissy he didn’t get his own chance to fucking lose. Because in his heart, Biden also thinks the problem with Kamala is that she was a black woman. He sees no problem with his policies, his stance on Israel, his willingness to play nice and coy with Republicans, or his impending death. He seriously thinks that only he could “save” America, and that he could have won. All this, despite all the constituents of his party cheering when he stepped down and flooded his replacement with donations and praise.

    I’ll say it again, rest in piss Brandon. People will compare you to Chamberlain or Brüning, and it will be a disservice to both those men. Your ego caused you to utterly fail your country, and we will remember you as a failure.

  • UristMcHolland@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    48
    ·
    2 years ago

    I hope by the time the next election comes around, assuming we will ever have another election, that we endorse a new party and completely abandon the democratic party in favor of something like a labor party. Maybe, just maybe, we have seen the Democrats vs. Republicans for the last time.

    This country had different parties before, we can have different parties again.

    • Fandangalo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      33
      ·
      2 years ago

      I’m more aligned with Sanders than the democrats. D just feels like neoliberalism protected by identity politics when we need to focus on class issues. Lots of working people can get behind the same idea of wealth inequality. Identity politics has fragmented the focus. I don’t give a shit about Target/rando corp having rainbow clothes: when lots of people cannot afford the clothes, then that’s a problem to solve.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        23
        ·
        2 years ago

        The problem is that there are people who really fucking care about those rainbow clothes. And those people don’t think a subset of our population should exist. That’s why it’s something to give a fuck about.

        You don’t have to be gay to give a shit about these things. They’re talking about ending marriage equality (or “leave it up to the states” which I’m sure won’t lead to chaos when states decide not to acknowledge people’s marriage certificates).

      • Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        2 years ago

        I agree with you that the Democrats need to focus on economic issues, but I’m not following on the “identity politics.”

        What did the Democrats propose to do about pride merch in Target?

        • Fandangalo@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          edit-2
          2 years ago

          It’s less about what they did than didn’t do. There’s been inroads made because of identity politics, but now it feels somewhat pointless. Instead of being the “big tent” party, the Dems are the party of many tents. That means working class people look at it, say, “I’m not part of some special group, so I don’t matter.” And they turn red or just “not Dems.” A lot of people didn’t have improvements in their lives over the last 4 years.

          Absolutely, some groups are more negatively impacted by others, but systemic racism is invisible to many. Meanwhile, things are more expensive, salaries can’t keep up with inflation, we’re talking about trillionaires in 10 years.

          I don’t identify as a democrat. They can talk all they want, but I have no faith in the party. I fit in several identity politics groups, but that doesn’t matter while people struggle with housing, food… it’s just a distraction to divide us further rather than focusing on the shared element that every day people are facing.

          • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldBanned from community
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            15
            ·
            2 years ago

            That means working class people look at it, say, “I’m not part of some special group, so I don’t matter.”

            In fairness, there haven’t been a lot of indicators that the working class matters to Democrats. In fact, they got a few very public demonstrations that when given the opportunity, Democrats will not act in the best interests of workers.

            The problem isn’t that Democrats defend trans people too much (because they fucking don’t. They ran republican anti-trans hate in their own ads last election.) The problem is that Democrats don’t also fight for workers.

            Democrats should openly and viciously fight for every tent they (falsely claim to) represent. Not just the ones that are convenient at the moment.

            • Fandangalo@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              2 years ago

              I agree at the general prescription for the party. On a personal level, it’s starting to feel like a distraction, and maybe even a manufactured one.

              • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldBanned from community
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                4
                ·
                2 years ago

                On a personal level, it’s starting to feel like a distraction, and maybe even a manufactured one.

                So we should just abandon every vulnerable minority on the grounds that protecting them or fighting for them in any way would just play into Republicans’ attempts to distract?

                • Fandangalo@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  2 years ago

                  Oh yeah! Definitely what I’m saying in good faith! /s

                  Focus on what an actual aligned group can: our class. We’d help those groups and more if we stopped doing this.

                  I say I agree with someone and I get bad faith questioning back.

          • Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            edit-2
            2 years ago

            I’m still not following then.

            Why would you list pride merch in Target as one of the problems with the Democrats if that’s not one of their problems?

            Do you have anything to support this hypothesis that supporting vulnerable groups was what cost them the election instead of them being the party of the status quo? Or maybe I’m misunderstanding?

            Like I said, I’m with you that they need to focus on economics that has an effect on people’s lives. I just don’t follow your other point.

            • Fandangalo@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              edit-2
              2 years ago

              It’s a joke because a bunch of people on the right got mad over Target.

              This is an opinion. I’m okay with my feelings being wrong.

  • Furbag@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    44
    ·
    2 years ago

    Biden has absolutely nobody to blame for him getting ousted but himself.

    Dems told him he should not run for a second term, and he ignored them and did it anyway.

    Then, he proves all his critics right by absolutely imploding during the debate.

    What did he expect?

    Time to fade away into obscurity. Thanks for letting your ego get in the way of what was best for America.

  • BigBenis@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    37
    ·
    2 years ago

    He fumbled his chance by historical margins when everybody was already scrutinizing his capabilities. There was no recovering from the debate. His legacy will be refusing to accept reality and bringing about an era that my generation may never recover from.

  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    37
    ·
    2 years ago

    He should have announced he was going to be a 1 term president a year prior and gave a chance to find a better Democrat candidate. He’s senile and hardly able to run the country. No one over 70 should be president. No one over 70 should be in any office or judicial position. Our country shouldn’t be ran by the nearly dead. Even 8f some of them like Sanders are great.

  • samus12345@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    2 years ago

    You still woulda lost, Joe. Dumb American voters wanted someone to blame for groceries costing more, and that blame went to you.

        • Guy Ingonito@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          2 years ago

          Teamsters went for trump after dems bailed out their retirement pensions. Americans don’t even care what happens to them, they just want to feel like they’re strong and powerful manly men.

  • xenomor@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    Fuck this guy. Shouldn’t have been there in the first place. Now, to a large extent because of his decisions, we all have to suffer through the rule of the dumbest, most bigoted and greedy assholes ever.

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    2 years ago

    And one thing, importantly, that President Biden has been absolutely consistent about is this belief that he believes that had he stayed in the race, he would have defeated Donald Trump again. Now, all of this adds up to, I would say, a mood of sadness and sort of this sense of tragedy here at the White House,” concluded Lee. “Those around him believing and actually hoping that when history judges President Biden years from now, that it will be a little bit more forgiving than how the president is being widely judged, at least today, Jake. ”

    Emphasis mine. The level of hubris is genuinely jaw-dropping.