This is a single post, hardly “Reddit”.
Yeah, I was gonna say, this is a community moderator not a site admin.
An admin not stepping in does reflect on Reddit. They have shown they won’t hesitate to step in when they actually care about the issue.
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I still see it: Seems to still be up, first comment, just minimized for some reason: https://safereddit.com/r/karachi/comments/1kpfo1j/whats_your_take_on_this/
Reddit Admins ALL THE TIME, will remove posts and comments that the subreddit mods have allowed to post. And in some cases it may result in the ban of the poster and even of the group mod that approved it
Painting the whole of reddit based on the actions of a single non-admin moderator on a religious subreddit of all things feels dishonest as hell, tbh.
Well, an admin not stepping in also speaks volumes. They were more than happy to step in when we complained about API changes.
Yes, reddit admins are famously shit and famously have the most skewed priorities in history, but that still doesn’t make this cherry-picked example a good representation of reddit as a whole.
The post is not trying to explain what reddit is. The post title says “Reddit is now allowing advocacy of Child Marrige because they don’t want to be seen as islamophobes”.
This is a true statement, since admins not stepping in means they are allowing it. The image is good evidence of that.
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Seems to still be up, first comment, just minimized for some reason: https://safereddit.com/r/karachi/comments/1kpfo1j/whats_your_take_on_this/
Oh, I was expecting it to be a recent thing, not from months ago. That’s why I didn’t see it on their profile.
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to be fair the vast majority of administration on reddit is now automated by bots. If you’ve ever been admin banned it tells you as much. So the real issue should be what filters/flags have been applied and why would the bot ignore something like this post/mod?
Reddit deleted my NSFW subreddit for no reason except it was competition for the girls they personally pimp out. They 100% take an active role and could deal wirh this if they wanted to.
“U.S. states - As of July 2025, child marriage is legal in 34 states.”
4 states have no minimum age (effectively 0).
2 states have a minimum age of 15.
20 states have a minimum age of 16.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States#Marriage_age
Let’s be honest here, the United States aren’t the standard they claim to be.
You European? They don’t have a leg to stand on here. Marriage age is buck wild over there! Europe! What’s up with that?!
If not, check your country! Bet money that neither marriage nor age of consent is pegged at 18.
French Canadian.
Ah! 16 across the board. I assume that’s national not provincial law?
Indeed surprising for me, the trick being that it’s not 18 when considering “marriage with parents and judicial approval”, which are probably pretty rare but definitely possible in way more countries than i would have bet
Mostly the same in the US, most of the states that are 18 below require parental consent. Still not awesome but it’s not like a bunch of teenagers are getting married willy nilly.
Allowing children to be sold off as child brides with parents consent is not an improvement. Especially since they cannot legally get divorced until they are 18
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This country is littered with pedophiles and 48 year olds who say “age is just a number!” Just before they marry a 14 yr old.
Anyone who knows anything about the US
Knows this.
You are the one who is mislead my friend
I think you’re arguing with someone who completely agrees with you.
One ex of mine got married at 17, another at 18 (Appalachian milfs and I have a thing for each other). Neither decision was good, and people may think it’s only a year, but the difference is drastic. At 18 you’re legally an adult, but at 17 you aren’t. At 17 you lack rights that your adult spouse has, like to file for divorce and to open bank accounts independently.
The minimum marriage age should be the age of majority and I don’t care if your culture dislikes it. If you don’t trust someone is old enough to sign a contract, why are you letting someone sign that contract? If they aren’t old enough to purchase pornography, why are you letting them enter into a legal commitment with a sexual component? If they can’t legally independently demand divorce why are you letting them marry at all?
We had to put a line between child and adult somewhere and 18 seems a pretty good place, but crossing that line grants an immense amount of freedom and independence.
Too immature to be allowed to drink. Mature enough to raise children.
Yeah, no. Marriage should be 21 and up.
Nah I’m in the make it all 18 camp
I used to be. But when I turned 30 I realized that I wasn’t properly sane until I was in my late 20s.
We’ve figured out that brains don’t finish maturing until around 25. So to me, 21 is a compromise.
I wasn’t properly sane until I was experienced. Ive seen sheltering make for stupid 30 year olds snd I’ve seen a 21 year old on her second kid who seemed to have it shockingly together. But I also come back to the stance of freedom for adults.
Indeed. But the question to me is, when are they an adult? We have to pick some fairly arbitrary age, and to me 18 seems young.
Appalachian milfs and I have a thing for each other
Thanks, I blew air out of my nose harder than usual.
Glad to be of assistance lol. I used to joke that I don’t have a type but a type has me
If you’re going to allow marriage below the age of majority, emancipation should be included. It makes a terrible idea just slightly better.
You can soon vote in the UK at age 16
I’m generally cool with that. I hope they can sign contracts at that age too if they’re allowed to marry
Surprised at your comment. Just last month I read a review of all variations of milfs in the US. Top rated milfs were the Appalachian milfs. And it makes sense. They marry young and have kids when they are young. They have much less mileage on them compared to the overwhelming amount of milfs.
That’s a weird think to rank. I was just near where left wing queer hillbillies wound up
That Wikipedia article is very poorly written and seems to contradict itself in the same paragraph multiple times. But I’m not surprised that the main locations for child marriages are Appalachia and the Jello-Belt. Backwoods hicks and ultra rural Mormons are the two main demographics i correlate with child marriage.
Aisha was six when she and Muhammad were married. I’m not sure it really compares
Check age of consent laws for American states. Find that outrageous? LOL, next have a look at Europe.
If it’s legal to have sex with a 16 or 17 year old, it’s legally consistent to allow marriage.
You are working under the assumption that the consequences of sex and marriage are the same. Much of the world doesn’t agree, as per your list.
I’m thinking we agree? In any case, the age of majority, marriage and consent are all over the place on this Earth, and almost all are under 18. Again, if you can fuck you should be able to marry, to be legally consistent.
You both need to check Aisha’s age before even comparing US or Europe to it
Classical Islamic sources state that Aisha was six at the time of her marriage with Muhammad and nine at the time of its consummation.
I’m well aware, just commenting on modern age laws perhaps being crazier than most people know.
I guess being from Europe I don’t find the numbers particularly crazy, at least considering the context
United States states ?
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So a random mod speaks for Reddit? What kind of BS is this post
A random mod for the Karachi subreddit
Yea I know, but the post says that the admins accept it, which is false
So a random mod speaks for Reddit? What kind of BS is this post
As long as Reddit allows this mod to continue his job, they implicitly support his cause. It’s why they had to ban all the subreddits that were being creepy.
edit: Time for OP to make a stink on Reddit about it. Not sure why they’re posting it here. It doesn’t concern me, IMO.
I know we all hate Reddit, but you don’t have to sink as low as this. This is a single post, hardly reddit’s stance.
well on the plus side we do the same thing with lemmy instances so at least we’re consistent
Yes😉
The point being made is that reddit Admins have zero problem banning anything that does not fit their “narrative”. And that narrative has a hierarchy not based on basic morality and common sense. Ask yourself this question, even if there was a single post, would reddit Admins allow the promotion of child marriage by a Christian religious group that was mostly comprised of White people?
How is that the point being made? This isn’t an admin.
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cuck seems like a weird word to use here
consider what you’re accusing them of being, what the post says they’re doing, and what cuck means happens to their victim
I’m in favour of using cuck non-literally to express scorn, derision, disgust, etc. I think it’s a good replacement for all the homophobic words that were used that way decades ago (more recently for some).
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I have a weird take that will give me downvotes.
In the US we grow up with 18 being an adult and consent for most things (driving is the exception and why I say “most things” )
I don’t agree with marriage under 18.
In other countries though that is not the case and that is their custom. And I’m in no position to argue on some other cultures customs IN their country.
If you’re in a country where underage marriage is acceptable, and you move to the US, then it is unacceptable.
In other countries though that is not the case and that is their custom. And I’m in no position to argue on some other cultures customs IN their country.
If its harmful to people then yes, you should. Child marriage, raping children, lack of women’s right, and murding LGBT is not acceptable, I’m not going to sit here and say “oh it’s their culture so it’s okay”, it’s fucked up and yes, they should change.
Okay but who decides if its harmful? Plenty of peoole get married at 18-20 and it fucks them up. Plenty of insanely rich old dudes marry 18 year olds. Does that mean we should increas the marriage age?
What about if we had people from another cukture that thought people werent adults until 30? Since that is justifiable as your brain is still developing until around that age. Would you then describe anyone that marries someone in their 20s as raping children?
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We have hoardes of data on the effects of child marraige?
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Wow, defending child marriage… Not a good look.
Actually the opposite, im so against child marriage i think marriage under 30 should be illegal. Dont you think the same?
No law is ever going to be perfect, but perfection is the enemy good here.
It’s pretty well researched, understood, and established that your average 9 year old has so much more critical mental development they still need to undergo than your average 18 year old in order to become functional adults, regardless of what actual official age we define that as being.
Yes, some 18 year olds may still be taken advantage of, abused, hurt etc., but those 18 year olds, on average, will have a much better chance of defending themselves from and overcoming the damage done by an abusive “suitor” than the average 9 year old would. That is both physically and mentally.
In this case, I think it is a good albeit imperfect law as it serves the majority of the people and cases. Of course there will still be those outliers it fails to protect, but it is still a “net good”.
I think people generally agree with you, but there are limits to what people will tolerate anywhere. For instance if Rwanda made a law requiring Hutus to murder of Tutsis, most people would say that’s unacceptable even in Rwanda.
There’s obviously a bright line between ok and not ok in that example, but for marriage it could be a little more unclear. Sure, maybe a 17 year old marrying a 19 year old is ok in some places and not others, but overall no one will probably be that upset about it. However, a majority of the world has a problem with a 50 year old marrying a 10 year old. Where exactly the line is crossed is open to debate, but pretty much everyone agrees there should be a line. Most countries are picking 18 as that line because it’s better to have an imperfect choice rather than none at all.
Almost all age of consent laws and marriage laws (not finding a good map on this one) start well into puberty. Pretty funny seeing all the 18 countries right next to “no age” countries.
And the US is all over the place! I could hop any of 3 state lines and bangin’ a 16-yo is fine. Meanwhile, at home, 17 would see me in a concrete and steel box. Weird. Of course our laws make Europe look positively rapey, if one believes 18 is some moral, hard limit. Guess it’s no surprise our laws are more puritanical.
I could hop any of 3 state lines and bangin’ a 16-yo is fine
Funny enough, hopping the state line to do it is not so fine…but if you happen to be in the state for a different reason…
Yep! Suddenly, TRAFFICKING! So weird living in such a huge country with so many conflicting laws. I have to check myself carrying a pistol across state lines!
Are any other countries like this?! Fuck me. Federal, state, county and city laws can all be contradictory.
I dislike the fact that your completely reasonable and understandable position which essentially boils down to “local laws and customs differ, so we must all follow the laws of the local land for who am I, an outsider, to cast my judgement upon others” is factually and correctly labeled as having a weird take.
Because anything that coukd be vaguely linked to pedophilia becomes part of the moral high horse content where if you dont take on as extremly negative opinion as someone else, well then youre obviously a pedo or defending pedos. So there can exist no nuanced discussion on any issues like this because people will see it and jump on the chance to show everyone how morally superior they are, by having a more extreme opinion on it than the other guy.
In other countries though that is not the case and that is their custom. And I’m in no position to argue on some other cultures customs IN their country.
You sure about that?
Classical Islamic sources state that Aisha was six at the time of her marriage with Muhammad and nine at the time of its consummation.
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Okay
I didn’t read your take but imma guess it’s popular opinion
Its not really a culture issue though. In the US we decided on 18 because that’s the age it is believed that people can make decisions for themselves. Personally I think it should probably be higher. In other countries that have a lower age of consent don’t do it because they think the kids are mature enough to make that decision. They do it because they view the kids as similar to slaves who have to do what they are told. If it is a culture thing, then should culture be enforced through threat of death i.e. honor killings? They just use culture as an excuse to be shitty.
You just slammed everyone in Europe, excepting, ironically enough, Turkey.
Sure. I slammed anyone who thinks kids are mature enough to marry. There’s plenty of states here in the US that fit the bill too.
If you’re pegging “kid” at under 18, you’re against almost every law on the planet.
So I am. In my opinion people should wait even longer than that. I remember when I was 18. I was an idiot just starting to learn about how to live in the world, and I’d say a significant percentage of the people my age were more reckless than even me. Any big decision one has to make at that age is at best uninformed.
I was a moron as well! Still am! OTOH, I’ve read things I wrote back in high school thinking these views would be childishly naive. Nope! I was more mature than I gave myself credit for.
Made friends with the neighborhood kids, pretty much on accident. When they were 17-21 they’d hang on a Saturday night and talk and debate and argue and have a blast. I was stunned at how smart and experienced they were! I’ll never misjudge young people again. Who was the fool to underestimate them? Me.
FFS, at 17 we were fucking like rabid hamsters, at the height of the AIDS epidemic. Not like we were clueless. Sex was a life and death affair, but we managed to be safe, navigate that danger along with all the other crazy shit tied to human sexuality. LOL, the stories I could tell. One of the nerdiest girls in school, “Have you tried tying your gf up?! My bf fucked my brains out strapped to his bed last night!” Kids? Hardly.
We all have to grow up, make those painful mistakes, learn. I’m certain you agree. But dialing that age out older and older and older is a mistake. What chaps my ass are those who make young people out to be idiots, idiots incapable of agency. I will not take that from them. I will not disrespect them so.
Everything you just said describes the behavior of irresponsible kids. I not arguing that we should stop kids from doing all that. I agree that it is a part of growing up. I’m arguing that they should not be able to sign legal contracts, such as marriage, that will have a major impact on their lives without truly understanding it. That’s the best case scenario. There are much worse people who take advantage of such lax laws.
Only 10 US states peg age of consent at 18. Most are 17 a several are 16.
Check Europe’s age of consent and age of marriage laws.
If teens getting married or fucking bothers anyone here, have a look at your own laws before casting stones at the US.
Under 18 needs parental consent.
Nope. “Age of consent” means anybody can fuck anybody at that age. Parental consent can be a thing with marriage laws. Don’t know much about the particulars there.
I’m talking about marriage… You’re adding in sex for some reason. Nowhere in any conversation has anyone said anything about having sex with someone under 18…
Only 10 US states peg age of consent at 18. Most are 17 a several are 16.
Only if you’re straight. Many states have different laws on age of consent for gay sex.
Don’t be duped by fairy tale stories of any variety that seek to shackle your mind.
Religion. Leave it and open your eyes to the real world. Stop believing in fairy tales.
Being a child diddler has no religion. Even with Islam the people who advocate for child marriage still hold the same morals.
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Here’s a hint, buddy all religions are like this not just the Muslims, Google how old Mary was when she had Jesus, but you don’t fucking care, none of you pedo dip shits do
I couldn’t give a shit about Christianity, I was born in Hindu country but I’m an atheist. It’s okay to hate one religion more than others, thinking all are equally bad in the modern world doesn’t make you special.
No. They are all bad
You should probably be more concerned with hindu nationalism and casteism then.
western propaganda, specifically from right winger and christianity, your percieving fundamentalist of any religion as a wrong thing
Numbers 31:17-18
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him.
But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him keep alive for yourselves.
People need to understand that religion was shaped by culturally accepted practices of the time, and shit was pretty universally fucked up 5000 years ago.
Also child marriage is still legal in most US states and the first state to make it illegal (Delaware) did so in 2018.
Let’s not pretend that this problem is somehow isolated to Islam.
Child marriage is legal in the US with a majority of states allowing it in some form and four states literally having no minimum age of marriage.
This is a religious people problem. The more of them you have the more of this problem you have. Religious people have all kinds of excuses for pedophilia and other things that rob people of consent and agency.
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This seems like a subreddit rule. Has Reddit ever ruled specifically for or against this?
So I can still state a corrigendum? Cool.
Corrigendum: That’s supremely fucked up, and anyone that advocates for that deserves to be punched in the dick by a thousand prize-fighters.
