• potoooooooo ✅️@lemmy.worldEnglish
    42·
    3 个月前

    He could have done it all in Katz’s Deli, opened 1888. At that point, the house band could’ve been rocking out on Zildjian cymbals that were already 250+ years old.

  • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
    34·
    3 个月前

    A reminder that there is an actual wild west gun slinger (sort of) in Dracula. He’s the perfect stereotype of a Texan cowboy.

    Also an invitation to our Dracula bookclub in !vampires@lemmy.zip.

  • Wugmeister@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    22·
    3 个月前

    This is such a good “Well, yes, but actually no” factoid. Coke back then was a medicinal drink with cocaine as the active ingredient. Nintendo originally made playing cards. Jeans probably would have repelled Dracula in the source text since they are associated with the working poor.

    • Depress_Mode@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      3 个月前

      Coke was originally among many other “tonics” pushed back in the day, but it also wasn’t marketed under the name Coca-Cola while it was sold as a patent medicine tonic. It also was only was sold in that form for a few months before being made nonalcoholic and marketed as a beverage later that same year. Sales were initially poor and only picked up with aggressive advertising campaigns, which I suppose is a strategy that Coke never left behind and leads us to the world where we are today.

  • LiveLM@lemmy.zipEnglish
    19·
    3 个月前

    A gun-slinger, a samurai and a pirate fighting Dracula? What is this, the new JoJo?

  • DrDystopia@lemy.lolEnglish
    9·
    3 个月前

    Well that’s just sounds like something someone has to make, book, series, movies, whatever im not picky

  • xylol@leminal.spaceEnglish
    9·
    3 个月前

    And nothing much has changed since, just more, more jeans, more coke, more blood suckers

  • Runaway@lemmy.zipEnglish
    8·
    3 个月前

    Samurai at this point were samurai true, but mostly just office workers at this point. Not exactly the armored warriors most people would think of as a samurai.

    Where would the pirates be from? Golden age of piracy had long past in Europe afaik. Or are we just being amorphous with the fact there are always pirates?

  • Echolynx@lemmy.zipEnglish
    7·
    3 个月前

    They might’ve all existed, but did they all exist in the same place at once?

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      3 个月前

      Japan was opened up by American gunboats in 1853 at which point Japanese-American trade was present. That puts Nintendo in reach of American sailors. Levi’s was founded in the west coast port city of San Francisco as workwear. This makes it plausible for a laborer to wear them while working as a deckhand or other skilled labor job where they may pick up a taste for Japanese card games while gambling in Japan. If they find themselves on the Atlantic route any time in the southeast and they’re likely to run into coca cola which was a refreshing and energizing beverage owing to the sugar, caffeine, and cocaine. If they keep some bottles on board for a special occasion they may very well have some left by the time they arrive in England where Brahm Stoker is writing Dracula.

      Now, why is a Gothic writer gambling in a Japanese game with an American sailor and noticing his curious pant choice? I couldn’t tell you enough about Stoker to say if that’s normal, but add some emotional abuse and a bisexual baccanal and it sounds exactly like some Lord Byron bullshit and Percy Shelley may join in.

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        3 个月前

        Samurai, gunslingers, and pirates are even more reasonable. There was an age of piracy located in the Caribbean and gulf of Mexico a few decades before the wild west. They’re unlikely to be fighting at the time, but as New Orleans settles down it’s plausible that a pirate may want to open a saloon or brothel outside the reach of the government and polite society. During the wild west the Japanese government underwent the Meiji Restoration which ended the feudal system and put a lot of samurai out of work (they had a rebellion about it). A samurai deciding to hop a ship to America to seek ronin work is something I feel like i would’ve heard if it had happened, but it is within the realm of “yeah I wouldn’t question if a mostly reputable source said it happened”. And well I suppose one or two western style gunslingers may have been in the West at the time.

    • Katrisia@lemmy.todayEnglish
      3·
      3 个月前

      Colonization made strange things happen. Once, for example, Spain recruited indigenous warriors from Tlaxcala (Central Mexico, allies of theirs since their battles against the Mexicas/“Aztecs”) and went to the Philippines, and there they fought Japanese pirates and samurais, basically.

      Accurate info here.

  • Depress_Mode@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    3 个月前

    While the Old West goes back a few centuries, I’d say the “gunslingers era” isn’t until the first Colt revolver becomes available in the mid 1830s. It took a bit of digging to find pirates that would have definitely been around late enough into the 1800s that they’d be contemporary with gunslingers and samurai (class abolished in 1870), but old school river piracy lasted, even in just the US, into at least the late 1870s, so I guess that all checks out, as long as you weren’t expecting Blackbeard or anything.

    • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      3 个月前

      Piracy pretty much always exists. As long as valuables are being transported by ship there will be people who want to capture those ships.