Please note that NSFW/NSFL videos must be labeled as such or they will be deleted
Edit: also keep in mind that initial information in these situations can often be inaccurate. Trusted outlets have conflicting reports about whether a suspect has been detained.
Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.
Its like if you had a grocery bag full of red water, and then poked a hole in the bottom. It was steady and rushing out of his body, for a second or two before he went limp and slid out of his chair and onto the ground. It was very quick but you still have enough time to see a shocking amount of blood.
But if someone’s gonna make some wisecrack comment celebrating/endorsing acts of violence, they should definitely watch it to see the sick reality of what they’re celebrating.
Kirk is (was?) a piece of shit, but the armchair judges, juries, and wannabe executioners around here need a reality check.
And think about your Red Lines. I have 2. I have family who belong to vulnerable groups who are particularly hated and targeted by MAGA, and if anything were to happen to them, I would have nothing left to lose, and I will become very dangerous.
My second Red Line is if they use ANY excuse to cancel/suspend elections. This country has NEVER cancelled an election, not even during the Civil War. If elections are cancelled or suspended, that is OFFICIALLY the end of the United States. At that point, I do not recognize any laws or any sovereignty by the MAGA government. I will not pay taxes, I will steal everything I can my hands on, I will vandalize any MAGA property, and if it gets hot, and gunfire erupts, I’m ready mentally, and I’ve been an excellent shot my entire life.
As an older person, I have had the revelation that the end of my life will probably include a twist ending that I never anticipated until now, and I have accepted that. In fact, I now think that dying peacefully in my bed as an old man, while America becomes Nazi, would be waste. I’d rather my death accomplish something.
Other Red Lines are starting to form in my mind as well.
"I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.”
I’ve been hyper-aware of the possibility of a school shooting since I was in grade school. I’ve watched Palestinians be murdered for over ten years. I’ve watched poor young Russian idiots and Ukrainian soldiers blown apart for the past three years. And I just saw one of the biggest cheerleaders of all that in the States killed.
“Sick reality” has nothing on it. A piece of shit who advocated for and contributed to the shittiest of shitty policy in the US, which has led to the deaths of numerous other people, was killed, and by one of the shitty policies he himself advocated (political violence or gun proliferation, as you prefer).
This isn’t even getting into the ‘less’ severe domestic dangers he was part of pushing forward - the concentration camps for immigrants, the rampant dehumanization of LGBTQ folk, the stripping of medical assistance to the filthy poors who are too sick to be worth keeping alive.
The man literally said crying is for babies and empathy is a “new age made up thing”.
I don’t want the world to devolve into one person killing another because they disagree, but he was a piece of shit and deserves little to no sympathy as a result.
Me either. I’m not even sad he’s (apparently) no longer among us. I just get disgusted with everyone who’s calling for violence left and right (metaphorically and politically).
I just get disgusted with everyone who’s calling for violence left and right (metaphorically and politically).
There’s a fine line between advocating for violence, and being aware that violence is going to happen whether we want it to or not. As someone else mentioned, the Right Wingers are absolutely ready to pull the trigger and it’s naive for people on the left to think “It won’t happen to me, so why bother being ready.”
I look at this killing the way I look at Luigi; I’m not going to shed a tear for the victim. He had it coming to him and then some. And I hope the shooter never gets found because fuck Charlie Kirk.
I’m not saying there needs to be all out revolution. But actions such as this killing are good in that they make the other side realize that “yes…we are ready…and you’re not safe if you keep trying your shit”.
To be fair, I also wouldn’t care if Biden got shot right now. I’m not gonna be the one that does it, but if someone else does it, oh well, couldn’t care less… 🤷♂️
Do we have to “thoughts and prayer” every time some politician dies?
That’s like asking why someone with a tumor is calling for a surgeon to cut it out, even if that person isn’t themself a surgeon.
Lots of people would be extremely uncomfortable watching a major surgery, but that doesn’t and shouldn’t stop them from coming to the OR when they need one. Nor should they be forced to see footage of their operation.
We have a fascism problem, and personally I’m thankful we have people with the aptitude and fortitude to address it, regardless of my own ability or lack thereof in that area.
I am genuienly curious, you have a definition of gore…that is not fundamentally based in a human realizing something is very, very wrong with another living being?
Like… your blood is generally supposed to stay inside you. Blood is generally considered more gory the more of it there is.
Alright. Gore is the inside squishy bits of the body you shouldn’t see: muscles, torn flesh, whatnot. You see someone’s brains or a stump where an appendage was just separated, that’s gore.
Blood is… well… blood. In context it’s alarming, but ultimately it’s just a bunch of opaque red liquid.
I think also that people watch a lot of simulated murders on TV, and they kind of don’t know what its like to watch a person die. Like Tarantino will make geysers of blood look very cool, treehouse of horror makes explosions of organs funny, etc. The amount of blood, at least for that context, is some but in normal bounds. I would say the part that is pretty terrifying for me, is that there are small things, like the way he flops back, the way he’s cut off… the simulations haven’t prepared people for this.
Watching a video of someone die is very different from watching it irl.
A video, your brain would juat categorize it with the TV stuff so you don’t really feel much.
Its better this way, people need to stop dancing around the topic of death. Just accept it as a fact and its easier to live life that way, instead of under a veil of lies and the cutsy “heaven” bs.
the blood doesn’t spray everywhere or all over him, but you can tell a lot gushed out quickly and goes out of view of the camera….
it’s really fast and mostly you notice his shirt moving suddenly
Agreed that people draw the lines in different ways. For me personally, the video is bloody, not gory. It’d be gory if there was viscera clearly visible.
Regardless, can see it being a traumatic image for some. But on the other hand, a lot of us are desensitized.
I guess I watched enough videos from Ukraine and Gaza these past 3 years to be more desensitized. That wasn’t that bad – and key point – relative to what else I’ve seen. My partner also works in trauma medicine, so we discuss a lot of stuff.
In some respects, I think conservatives who have a fetish for guns should witness the true damage they inflict.
Yeah I felt the same. I actually can’t watch gory films but this video wasn’t hard to watch. But then I’ve experienced quite a lot of difficult situations irl so maybe I’m desensitised.
It’s honestly not as bad as I expected. The amount of blood reminds me of the historic Bud Dwyer video. -If i were to speculate i’d say it looks like Kirk had a very sudden and near total loss of blood pressure to his head when he was hit which leads me to think that he probably lost consciousnous before he knew what hit him.
I am not a medical professional. Nervous system was instantly affected and his body flung to the so callev teapot arms position. You are VERY unlikely to survive a shot like that under the BEST care in the world given that as we all can see, no amount of pressure on the wound can stop the blood loss. The last 5-6 seconds of your life are just a fade to black, pain is no longer a concept for your brain, you got quite literally unplugged and your body never knows what happened.
Please note that NSFW/NSFL videos must be labeled as such or they will be deleted
Edit: also keep in mind that initial information in these situations can often be inaccurate. Trusted outlets have conflicting reports about whether a suspect has been detained.
Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.
Also, uh, if you have any doubt in your fortitude whatsoever, do not watch them.
Seriously.
For anyone who is curious but might not want to watch the video, here’s a description I found that a friend of mine who watched it says is accurate:
Description
he got shot in the neck by a high powered rifle and instantly litres of blood spewed out as he slumped over. He likely won’t survive.
Dude could have fell off his seat and onto a trauma operating table and still died.
“Likely won’t survive”… My dude was dead within seconds.
He tensed up and stared off into the distance like he was gone instantly. Probably hit in the spinal.
Yeah that matches what I saw
Like an open spigot.
Like Kill Bill levels of blood squirting out?
Heavy leaking artery. Not as a bad as that Buffalo Sabres goalie in the 90s getting cut by a skate
Its like if you had a grocery bag full of red water, and then poked a hole in the bottom. It was steady and rushing out of his body, for a second or two before he went limp and slid out of his chair and onto the ground. It was very quick but you still have enough time to see a shocking amount of blood.
Lol, that sounds like my first RE4 playthrough
RE4 Spoiler and potential gore
the chainsaw dude literally decapitating my man Leon, literally scarier than any other enemy in the game, solely for the gorey part
Yep yep yep this x100, if you have PTSD or just have never seen or cannot handle extreme gore, probably actually do not watch the clip.
This is an extremely legitimately trigger warning worthy video clip.
But if someone’s gonna make some wisecrack comment celebrating/endorsing acts of violence, they should definitely watch it to see the sick reality of what they’re celebrating.
Kirk is (was?) a piece of shit, but the armchair judges, juries, and wannabe executioners around here need a reality check.
There is at least one fewer person advocating for the complete removal of my civil rights as a trans woman.
He won’t be missed, and in two months I’ll think about him as much as I think about Rush Limbaugh.
https://www.blazingsword.org/
Get armed, train, and be ready. Shits about to get spicy.
An armed minority is harder to oppress.
I’m a double stroke victim. I can barely walk without a cane.
My job isn’t to punch nazis, my job is to tell the nazi-punchers what squares to stand on, and what the nazis’ weaknesses are (hint: it’s bullets).
Keyboard warriors are very important, too. MAGA Nazis understand the importance of messaging, and the Left needs a lot more of it.
I do stuff offline too, I just don’t talk about it where it gets recorded for posterity.
Ah, stay strong, then.
Lester doesn’t go on heists, but the dude is still very important.
Ok we got it, you are important too
Yep. Arm up, stockpile supplies, get in shape.
And think about your Red Lines. I have 2. I have family who belong to vulnerable groups who are particularly hated and targeted by MAGA, and if anything were to happen to them, I would have nothing left to lose, and I will become very dangerous.
My second Red Line is if they use ANY excuse to cancel/suspend elections. This country has NEVER cancelled an election, not even during the Civil War. If elections are cancelled or suspended, that is OFFICIALLY the end of the United States. At that point, I do not recognize any laws or any sovereignty by the MAGA government. I will not pay taxes, I will steal everything I can my hands on, I will vandalize any MAGA property, and if it gets hot, and gunfire erupts, I’m ready mentally, and I’ve been an excellent shot my entire life.
As an older person, I have had the revelation that the end of my life will probably include a twist ending that I never anticipated until now, and I have accepted that. In fact, I now think that dying peacefully in my bed as an old man, while America becomes Nazi, would be waste. I’d rather my death accomplish something.
Other Red Lines are starting to form in my mind as well.
I watched it 15 times in a row. Gonna watch it a few dozen times more when more perspectives come back. He deserves worse.
Goddamn right I’m sick in the head! Fascism makes us sick. All the more reason to stand up to the monsters who push for it.
"I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.”
-Charlie Kirk (https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113)
So don’t worry, he’s fine with it.
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Fucking lol
Putting his money where his mouth is. Gotta respect that, LOL. More MAGA Nazis should follow his lead.
I watched it. Felt nothing.
I’ve been hyper-aware of the possibility of a school shooting since I was in grade school. I’ve watched Palestinians be murdered for over ten years. I’ve watched poor young Russian idiots and Ukrainian soldiers blown apart for the past three years. And I just saw one of the biggest cheerleaders of all that in the States killed.
“Sick reality” has nothing on it. A piece of shit who advocated for and contributed to the shittiest of shitty policy in the US, which has led to the deaths of numerous other people, was killed, and by one of the shitty policies he himself advocated (political violence or gun proliferation, as you prefer).
This isn’t even getting into the ‘less’ severe domestic dangers he was part of pushing forward - the concentration camps for immigrants, the rampant dehumanization of LGBTQ folk, the stripping of medical assistance to the filthy poors who are too sick to be worth keeping alive.
Fuck him.
Kirk pushes a narrative of violence and hate. I felt nothing but celebration seeing him get shot
Username checks out.
I’m not going to celebrate his death. But I’m not going to spare him any empathy either. He preached hate. Got hate in return. FAFO.
The man literally said crying is for babies and empathy is a “new age made up thing”.
I don’t want the world to devolve into one person killing another because they disagree, but he was a piece of shit and deserves little to no sympathy as a result.
Me either. I’m not even sad he’s (apparently) no longer among us. I just get disgusted with everyone who’s calling for violence left and right (metaphorically and politically).
There’s a fine line between advocating for violence, and being aware that violence is going to happen whether we want it to or not. As someone else mentioned, the Right Wingers are absolutely ready to pull the trigger and it’s naive for people on the left to think “It won’t happen to me, so why bother being ready.”
I look at this killing the way I look at Luigi; I’m not going to shed a tear for the victim. He had it coming to him and then some. And I hope the shooter never gets found because fuck Charlie Kirk.
I’m not saying there needs to be all out revolution. But actions such as this killing are good in that they make the other side realize that “yes…we are ready…and you’re not safe if you keep trying your shit”.
Staring the gritty reality of what you’re encouraging right in the face is always a good idea.
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I mean did you hear what his last words were?
Blah blah gang violence.
I mean we didn’t shoot him
To be fair, I also wouldn’t care if Biden got shot right now. I’m not gonna be the one that does it, but if someone else does it, oh well, couldn’t care less… 🤷♂️
Do we have to “thoughts and prayer” every time some politician dies?
I think people missed the point of your comment. I see many, many comments on here advocating or endorsing violent action against fascism.
Okay fine, but if you can’t stomach a video of it, let alone witness it in person, why are you calling for it?
Lots of people like eating beef until they have to kill the cow.
That’s like asking why someone with a tumor is calling for a surgeon to cut it out, even if that person isn’t themself a surgeon.
Lots of people would be extremely uncomfortable watching a major surgery, but that doesn’t and shouldn’t stop them from coming to the OR when they need one. Nor should they be forced to see footage of their operation.
We have a fascism problem, and personally I’m thankful we have people with the aptitude and fortitude to address it, regardless of my own ability or lack thereof in that area.
Watched the video. Hell, I’ve seen it live in the past.
Im glad a fascist is dead.
You’ll get downvoted by the majority here for that type of comment
Ya, the video is grim. Seriously doubt he survived.
For anyone wondering: it’s not gory as such, but it is significant in that way that tells our lizard brains something undeniably bad just happened.
I…what?
How else would you define ‘gory’?
I am genuienly curious, you have a definition of gore…that is not fundamentally based in a human realizing something is very, very wrong with another living being?
Like… your blood is generally supposed to stay inside you. Blood is generally considered more gory the more of it there is.
I mean, the phrase “blood and gore” sort of lays out the distinction.
… No, what I am saying is that it does not, for me, and I am asking for clarificatiom.
Alright. Gore is the inside squishy bits of the body you shouldn’t see: muscles, torn flesh, whatnot. You see someone’s brains or a stump where an appendage was just separated, that’s gore.
Blood is… well… blood. In context it’s alarming, but ultimately it’s just a bunch of opaque red liquid.
Ah.
That makes sense!
Thank you.=D
I think also that people watch a lot of simulated murders on TV, and they kind of don’t know what its like to watch a person die. Like Tarantino will make geysers of blood look very cool, treehouse of horror makes explosions of organs funny, etc. The amount of blood, at least for that context, is some but in normal bounds. I would say the part that is pretty terrifying for me, is that there are small things, like the way he flops back, the way he’s cut off… the simulations haven’t prepared people for this.
Watching a video of someone die is very different from watching it irl.
A video, your brain would juat categorize it with the TV stuff so you don’t really feel much.
Its better this way, people need to stop dancing around the topic of death. Just accept it as a fact and its easier to live life that way, instead of under a veil of lies and the cutsy “heaven” bs.
the blood doesn’t spray everywhere or all over him, but you can tell a lot gushed out quickly and goes out of view of the camera….
it’s really fast and mostly you notice his shirt moving suddenly
So to you, only blood spatter is gory?
Not actually just watching something like 1/3 to 1/2 his blood exit his body in maybe 3 seconds tops?
Like if a guy shat out all his intenstines, but … they went off camera, neatly into a bucket… that wouldn’t be gory?
Again I am just curious about this, different people are disgusted by different things, draw the lines in different ways I guess.
Agreed that people draw the lines in different ways. For me personally, the video is bloody, not gory. It’d be gory if there was viscera clearly visible.
Regardless, can see it being a traumatic image for some. But on the other hand, a lot of us are desensitized.
I guess I watched enough videos from Ukraine and Gaza these past 3 years to be more desensitized. That wasn’t that bad – and key point – relative to what else I’ve seen. My partner also works in trauma medicine, so we discuss a lot of stuff.
In some respects, I think conservatives who have a fetish for guns should witness the true damage they inflict.
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I don’t think people are used to seeing that volume of blood outside movies. That’s like, dead in minutes type bleeding
Finally someone who can shoot (sorry Tommy Crooks, you suck)
Yeah I felt the same. I actually can’t watch gory films but this video wasn’t hard to watch. But then I’ve experienced quite a lot of difficult situations irl so maybe I’m desensitised.
Agree. I watched it and really wish I hadn’t.
I really regret watching it. I can’t stand blood, especially so much of it
You may want this page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Charlie_Kirk
There are already 23 references to news articles and social media posts on there last I checked
not seeing shit on x, it’s all over threads with uncensored videos
Trump himself is now saying Kirk is dead.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump
Why the Fuck does he Type like an Idiot?
Because he is an idiot
Too many Big Macs?
Terminal uberboomeritis?
Silver spoon he was born with in his mouth got jammed into his brain at a young age?
You Hit the Nail on the Head?
I like how every news outlet says “GRAPHIC WARNING”, then proceeds to blur it anyways. Like… wtf is the point? Can’t even find a link lol
I’d recommend avoiding it, you can probably get a decent idea from knowing he got hit in the carotid artery.
Already watched it. Meh. Final Destination movies are much more gore-y
Got a link? I’m getting strsisanded into seeing it because I keep hearing how gore-y it is and now I’m just curious.
I found one below. Thank you!
Cause I need to watch things die From a distance
Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies You all need it too, don’t lie
Does anyone have a link? Not seeing one in this thread
Here (NSFW, shooting, blood etc)
Holy shit. That fucker isn’t surviving that.
Edit: he’s dead, obviously and officially.
It’s honestly not as bad as I expected. The amount of blood reminds me of the historic Bud Dwyer video. -If i were to speculate i’d say it looks like Kirk had a very sudden and near total loss of blood pressure to his head when he was hit which leads me to think that he probably lost consciousnous before he knew what hit him.
I am not a medical professional. Nervous system was instantly affected and his body flung to the so callev teapot arms position. You are VERY unlikely to survive a shot like that under the BEST care in the world given that as we all can see, no amount of pressure on the wound can stop the blood loss. The last 5-6 seconds of your life are just a fade to black, pain is no longer a concept for your brain, you got quite literally unplugged and your body never knows what happened.
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