Trump delivered to us this uncanny video in which he denounces the killing of Kirk and blames the left’s rhetoric as the sole cause of this unfathomable act.
Am I crazy, or is this obviously AI?
I posted this earlier.
He straight up loses a finger.
Slowed down:
Zoomed in on the fingers.
Use the time line to scrub the video. He loses the pinky and gains an additional digit on top, and everything just shifts down one register.
Have I got a trick for you:
HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK ARE YOU OK!!?!?!?
It’s okay! It’s AI!
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Haha soo reddit Xd
I think this may be just interpolation weirdness. Apparently the video was recorded in 24fps but encoded in 60.
See this analysis, I posted it in another comment: https://youtube.com/shorts/hXhDB1fK7ok
Edit: worth noting the interpolarion may be done by a similar AI engine which explains why it looks so similar to AI generated footage. Similar technology as the motion smoothness on TVs or DLSS frame gen. If it truly is 24-60fps and the interpolation is done by AI this would indicate over half the frames are AI generated. Would explain a lot while not necessarily meaning the video as a whole is AI.
just visually track the tip of his middle finger. And keep track of how many fingers are supposed to be past it.
His middle finger litterally becomes his ring finger.
I know, im seeing what you mean. I’m saying that could very much be an issue with interpolation. Especially if its AI interpolation. I edited my comment to add a bit more detail but its possible that over half the frames of this video are AI generated while the video itself is still real. Obviously I cant say for sure that that’s what is happening but this very much could be an interpolation artifact. Even in non-genAI interpolation, weird smudginess and morphing of fast moving objects in interpolated frames is a common and well known issue.
I could accept AI enhanced, but also, like…I’ve been looking at it a lot.
He’s way too still. Uncannily still. The chair doesn’t move. At all. It’s in high resolution. But isn’t.
And the finger thing. Its such an extremely well established issue with these kinds of videos.
It’s got enough red flags I’ll be looking for more coverage on the matter.
Regardless, it’s so unbelievably wildy inappropriate to be doing any kind of ai enhanced or even smoothed editing to the words of a world leader when those words have incredible weight impact and are effectively legally binding.
I’m looking at it more and I’m fairly certain this is just interpolated.
Look at this frame:
Seems to me to be pretty normal. No weird hand stuff, fingers look fine.
Now look at the next two frames, particularly the second one:
Totally jank. Fingers are blotchy, there’s a ghost finger, overall looks super fake. But then look at the next two frames:
Second to last has a little bit of weirdness still, but by the last frame it looks totally legit and real. No blotchy fingers, no ghost fingers, overall looks very normal.
That kind of behavior - where some frames look completely fine and in between ones look blotchy and weird - is exactly what you expect from motion interpolation.
Look at the example on a cat video on wikepedia, for instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_interpolation
The framerate is much lower on the original video here, but you can see a lot of the same kinds of artifacts. Blotchy limbs, “ghosts” in movment, things morphing in ways they shouldn’t… its very similar to what’s seen in the trump video. And mind you, to my knowledge this video is done with older interpolation methods that had nothing to do with genAI.
he loses a damn finger right there
I know. But that can totally happen in interpolated frames. Look at the cat video on the Wikipedia page. There are moments when the toy dissapears, when the kittens head splits into two, when one arm morphs into another… stuff like this is totally possible and even common for motion interpolation.
The bots are outvoting us like reddit
He’s not pursing his lips the usual way either, which struck me as really odd.
No, it’s definitely AI.
See some of my later replies. I’ve looked at it frame by frame and it looks exactly like the artifacts you’d see from motion interpolation. They can look very similar to AI artifacts.
Are you differentiating between AI Interpolation and just simply AI? It feels like people saying it’s AI you push back on.
Yes. People seem to be saying this is not a real video and that the white house generated it with AI. That is what I would say it means to say the video “is AI” - particularly because an AI interpolated video is still a real video.
Whether the interpolation is done with AI or not, I don’t know. AI interpolation is fairly common but there are older methods that produce similar artifacts. Based on some of the interpolated frames I’m leaning slightly towards it being AI interpolation but I don’t know well enough to say.
They’re aware that their supporters are too stupid to notice.
I hate that I don’t even know what’s real anymore.
whut, he just moves them so his index finger is mostly behind the middle one? you can still see it. what am I missing?
Use the time line to scrub the video and put your eyes on the ring finger of the left hand. The pinky dissolves into the hand, and the ring finger “becomes” the pinky.
Now put your eyes on the index finger of the left hand and track it visually. It “becomes” the middle finger, and an entirely new finger appears to take its place.
It’s true, the ring finger basically becomes the pinky and the pinky disappears. His pointer magically changes position. Also, his middle knuckle looks unnatural to start off with.
That what I thought at first. But additional finger pops up and he still have 5 even with index finger hidden.
ooooh yeah I can see it now, thanks
Oh dang, I saw that post earlier and thought it was probably just him repositioning his hands, but it really was my phone not having enough resolution.Edit: although the motion interpolation also makes sense. I withdraw my comment, because I frankly don’t know enough about ai nor do I have good enough eyesight to responsibly have a position on this.
People need to stop upvoting this persons posts. Not deepfake or AI. So sad we’re already at this populism and technical illiterate stage on Lemmy.
At hostpital, lost fingat!
What happened to your pics?
This was better and someone else had posted them. they show the same thing
I feel like we should’ve seen this coming; if/when he kicks the bucket, they’re gonna use AI to keep the cult of personality going for as long as they can.
Can you imagine if he also died today and that’s why they had to use AI
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Weekends at Uncle Sam’s.
This White House leaks worse than Trump’s asshole. If he died, there’s a better then small chance that staffers would accidentally invite a journalist to their Signal chat about it. It’s just not something they can keep secret.
I am inclined to agree.
But I bet they’d try to sell the lie anyway.
This is why the overwhelming majority of conspiracy theories are likely false. People often can’t even keep a secret about a crime they themselves committed. A whole group of people keeping a complete lid on something like that for any large length of time isn’t very believable.
This right here.
I’ve recently been seeing a lot more of what I’ve heard called Blue Anon. I am seeing it get argued against. Shit could get real ugly if it takes hold.
I’m having to repeatedly remind my family to check sources, think critically, and not jump to conclusions.
It’s imperative we remain skeptical and analytical.
The real boring dystopia is that keyboard warrior idiots with no video editing experience will create these type of posts and mislead entire communities.
It is not a deepfake, and I believe leaving posts like this up or without correction in the title damage Lemmy’s reputation.
Please consider changing title or take down the post. I explain the edit here.
https://lemmy.world/comment/19325281
Edit: the post has finally been removed. This was my explanation
I’m afraid it’s still not deepfake. It’s a fast cross dissolve cut. “Charlie was a [|] patriot”. It matches his dialogue. You can see above his head in the window that the green blur in the trees changes at the same time.
I’ve left the post up, but edited the title. I would encourage you to reach out to the mods if you feel my changes are insufficient.
Thank you for your contributions!
The real boring dystopia is that we have so little trust in our government that we suspect this at all.
You telling me this guy is our first Vtuber president?
There’s definitely a weird sped-up “twitch” moment that occurs around 20 seconds in. I didn’t detect it elsewhere after watching most of it (without sound) but at the very least there seems to be some smoothing-type postprocessing going on.
But does he really keep his hands that still for such long periods? Haven’t paid much attention to that aspect of “serious” press releases but that stands out to me, even if it’s a teleprompter job and he’s trying to keep from accordiflailing.
He might’ve stopped some of the more dramatic hand movements to keep attention away from the bruising on his wrists.
I disagree. I recently saw this analysis:
https://youtube.com/shorts/hXhDB1fK7ok
It seems pretty thorough, and this guy specializes in exactly this. Some of the weirdness seems to be due to a miss match between the 24fps the video was filmed in and the 60fps it was encoded in.
It is generated, yes, he took a still and the team crafted the script and the prompt later on.
Signs to look for:
Speed the video up: no breathing pattern. Close ups: hands millimetre steady plus it morphs quite heavily Skin: loses wrinkles gains dark spots plus color shifts on the edges where it meets the hair
This is bad, but it will fool millions.
This is just how old people with a dying brain, reading from a teleprompter, with a spray on tan, 3lb of makeup, and unnatural lighting look.
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I would not put it past Donny Bonespurs to have Kirk assassinated as either a distraction or to use as a pretext for more power grabs.
I’ll admit it’s a little tin foil hatty but considering he views other people as completely disposable, I don’t think it’s that far fetched.
Nah that just doesn’t make sense. He doesn’t need any pretexts because he’s already getting everything he demands and more handed to him on a silver platter at every opportunity, and if he wanted one anyway he’d just make it up and bullshit everyone like his lot always does
I was thinking exact same thing this morning. Definitely plausible.
To your last question, it only takes seconds, that’s how
Are we being false flagged?
Whether or not that is the case, I bet a lot of the fascists in and around the white house creamed their pants yesterday because of the opportunity this no doubt presents to them.
if it’s a false flag it’s to distract from the epstein shit,not to have an excuse for more violence
I see everyone here talking about specific parts of the video and how it’s fake because of various imperfections in the rendering. You are all thinking WAY too hard about this. When was the last time you saw trump speak for that long without some narcissistic rant thrown in off script? For him to accomplish this video he would need a level of reading comprehension that we have never witnessed from him before. THE REAL TRUMP IS ILLITERATE. No fucking way could he have read a teleprompter that quickly.
My thoughts exactly. Yo-semite.
“Vibe Presidenting”
that’s just what he looks like now.
Maybe AI enhanced, but it’s probably just interlacing
Just interlace after the ai generation to prevent detection lol
What year is this?
The worst one.
The worst one… so far.
Why do you think it’s AI?
The movements are all wrong. I think they’ve used AI to enhance the video and/or hide jump cuts.
He didn’t call the children beautiful, clearly not Trump speaking.
Could it be similar to the recent Will Smith incident where YouTube was doing AI enchantments?
I think I could see AI editing being the issue. But I have a hard time believing they’d just deep fake an entire segment for this to be played nationally. I don’t doubt that day will come – but would like to think it wouldn’t be for an issue like this.
Maybe he recorded one but it was unusably bad, leading his minders to put it into the slop machine for a touch-up. Even if he sees it later on, it’s not like he’d remember what he said once the little squigglies on the prompter go away. They’re free to change whatever they want.
His speech is way to coherent.
“Ol Charlie, like a son to me… like Charlie Tuna, you remember that one, right? Until the radical left lunatics killed him too. Wanted a woke androgynous oyster to replace him. Oyster gender transitions, its a whole thing and were not gonna pay for it. Absolutely tragic”
It looks like it at a glance but I’m pretty sure that’s just how he is when he tries to read a script…
Connecting the dots between this video and his droopy public appearance yesterday: he’s clearly recovering from stroke-type symptoms, probably a TIA.
Notice the persistent rightward tilt of his head and that he only moves his left hand. The uncanny mouth movements people have pointed out are probably an AI touch up to correct his facial droop. They basically propped him up for this video and kept him out of the spotlight during yesterday’s public appearance.
My money is that he’s projected to recover (they wouldn’t be able to hide a paralyzed president forever) but it’s another mark against his health claims. If it was a TIA it could be foreshadowing The Big One
About 1 in 3 people who has a TIA will eventually have a stroke, with about half occurring within a year after the TIA.
That’s too long to wait
This makes no sense - Trump was recently said to be the healthiest president ever, by actual doctors. Im guessing you’re not a doctor?
