• supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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    Oh look an unwieldy massive target with a monstorously large target profile, zero offensive capabilities, attrocious maneuverability with a suicidally slow reverse gear and absolutely catastrophically bad situational awareness.

    Perfect target for a 155mm shell spotted in by a drone talking to fire control.

    Also holy shit these are a main battle tanks wet dream of a target, armor design prioritizes having a low minimally exposed profile because otherwise tanks will eat them for lunch.

    This is how a main battle tank is supposed to look, no the rules haven’t changed Russia/Putin is just desperate and high off their own supply of bullshit.

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      or any other arty, or any competent ATGM, or bomber drone, or mines (perhaps also laid by a drone), or FPVs detonated on command (with EFPs or something like segment of MON-100 mine)

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    Does this make any sense to anyone? Sure it’ll keep grenade size explosives away*, but shouldn’t a tank be able to take that easy peasy?

    *Kinda, a grenade/mortar can still be dropped, but I guess the drone can’t land directly, so depends on the drone?

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      I assume it’s meant to work like slat or spaced armour, which aims to interfere with the detonation of the shaped charges that are quite common in anti-tank weapons. Modern tank armour can more or less handle them, but there’s a lot of not-very-modern armour in service in this war

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        I’m looking at the wire spikes and wondering what they’re good for. Those won’t interfere with any serious munition.

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          My guess:

          It’s for quadcopter FPV drones. The trigger on them is often two wires that bend to connect on contact. Triggering the detonationy 2-3 meters away from the turtle shell , means it takes more drones to destroy the tank.

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            That’s still back to my original point though, the quad ones I’ve seen don’t carry much. The tank should be able to easily take that hit.

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              Tanks were designed and built long before drones entered the picture. They were designed to defeat more traditional attacks. Tanks also have to maneuver so weight is a major concern. One of the tradeoffs made a long time ago is the armor on all tanks is uneven.

              The front and sides of the tanks where most incoming fire came from from were made extra thick. The top and rear of the tank are much thinner.

              Drones attack tanks from the top or the rear. They mostly use an RPG HEAT munition that can easily penetrate the thinner armor in the weak spots.

              Cages are an attempt to keep the drones away from the tanks weak spot long enough for them to run away.

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                Do you have a link to a drone that needs to land to set off a tank penetrating HEAT round. Not to drop a HEAT round, because the wires wouldn’t stop that, one that has to land first.

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    Do drones explode as soon as they feel resistance? I always thought it was more like kamikaze style where they fly into something completely and then the impact detonates the munition, not a bunch of sensors that trigger it as soon as it touches something like a landmine.

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      From the videos, it looks like there are two wires in the front that connect when they hit something. My guess is that’s what detonates it.

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        Interesting. I feel like this defence would be easily defeated if instead of two wires, it’s more of a cantilevered wire on a plastic/metal arm that requires a specific amount of force to bend, located on the nose of the drone, and the Secord contact point inset into the body of the drone, so when it crashes head on into something the two points connect but only if it really makes contact with something solid

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        That’s just one way a drone can detonate. It’s simple & effective. The two wires you see in some drone videos are part of the detonator circuit. When the wires touch the circuit is complete and the explosive is detonated. So just crash the drone into pretty much anything and up it goes.

        But you can also rig a drone to detonate remotely, which can be helpful in certain situations. Drones that are controlled fiber-optically can be used for precision attacks where you might want to fly them into buildings, etc. and not have them detonate prematurely by bumping into something.

        The Ukraine attacks on Russian bombers 4-5 months ago likely used a combination of these. They would want the drones to detonate when they crashed into the aircraft, but wouldn’t want to risk them detonating while they were being transported to where they were eventually launched. When the drones launched near the targets they were likely remotely armed, so that when they crashed they would detonate, but not before then.