iRony
She’s not cleaning because the floors dirty, she’s just trying to pass the time, when I worked at a small shop that got fuck all customers, I cleaned that floor so much, I think I stripped the top layer off.
Yep. Working clothing retail on a slow day? Time to fold and refold a lot of shirts just to do something other than stand behind the counter looking dumb.
other than stand behind the counter looking dumb.
jokes on you I look dumb no matter where I’m standing.
After a couple of hours you start hoping some shithead kid comes in and messes the store up so you have something to actually do.
Is it a strict no-phones policy?
And when the store is dead you actually listen to that bullshit and don’t just sneak your phone anyway?
So literally toiling? How utterly depressing.
This image is 10 years old - I bought the 980 (top shelf, third from the left, highest model pictured) as my first bot. Black friday 2016.
For anyone wondering, iR bots have great smarts but suck ass for hardware. I went through a total of 6 iR bots across 3 models, spending up to 1.6k USD for a model (and extended warranties by the store, which I used every time each failed, again, out of warranty). Oh and iR customer support is staffed only by certified assholes - I’m a disabled tech enthusiast and literally every single person I spoke to, both phone and email, was a condescending motherfucker. Every, last, one.
I’ve tried almost all the brands sold in the US, and I prefer Neato, which was bought by a German company and killed, so uh… that’s great. Shark is absolutely literal garbage, the one I bought failed after 28 days, Ecovacs are designed to fail after about 9 months of moderate use every other day (a wheel will start to fail to rotate, causing it to go I’m circles; two models, 3 units, across 2.5y did this). I’m testing a Roborock that has been okay so far, but it’s only been in use for two months…
Usually, extended warranties are bullshit. Here, I implore you to get one if you’re getting a bot. I’m now on bot make/model 8 (not counting replacements of the same model!), in 9 years. Seriously.
Anyway, ‘lol funny picture’.
My Roborock has been serving me well for over a year, even the home assistant integration has been painless. I’ve never had a different brand so reading your post makes me feel very fortunate. I actually recently ordered some new rollers and mop pad and was pleased how serviceable it is.
I’m on my third Roborock only because of upgrading to newer models. The other two were sold in full working order, never had any issues.
My ex has an… S5? for a few years now, so I took his experience as a hopefully positive experience. I ordered my Saros 10R like two and a half months ago, a sale just happened to coincide with the Ecovacs replacement failing. I also got credit for replacement parts, which is nice.
I had issues with initial setup, where my phone needed me to switch off cellular data to pair the bot to the network. Frustrating, found a page on reddit that nudged me in the right direction. Once that was sorted, it’s been quite pleasant. Not the lowest maintenence, and it’s suction could be… significantly stronger (even on ‘max+’ it can fail to pickup large hair from the carpet). But overall, I’m really happy with it so far. The app is on much higher quality than Ecovacs too, even though they are… suspiciously similar (down to the UI and location of buttons), the Roborock is waaaaay less buggy and feeding bad info to me.
I bought the extended warranty through RR directly (also the bot directly) instead of a store or third-party. Hopefully if it does have issues in the next… 4 years, I think? that customer service will be pleasant. iR set the bar underground, Ecovacs and Neato were good (above my low expectations), so fingers crossed. Be even better if it manages to work through the warranty without issues, it’d be the first to achieve it for me.
I’ve been happy with my Roborock so far.
Neato was bought by Vorwerk and as far as I can tell, the Kobold VR7 is a successor to Neato‘s robots. So it doesn’t seem to be all that dead. The VR7 has great hardware but it’s software is a bit lackluster.
literally every single person I spoke to, both phone and email, was a condescending motherfucker. Every, last, one.
I don’t know what worse, this or a technical support going through the script, page by page, despite me already trying most of their solutions before ringing. Nowadays I only ring them when I want to initiate return/repair procedure.
Wyze makes a good one for 150 USD. It comes with 4 wheel drive and can drive over a pile of 100ft extension cord tangled on the floor. No account bullshit. It’s not best sucker upper but it doesn’t wildly work good for the cheap price. Keeps the house mostly spotless. Fuck the mop versions they suck. But the vacuum version is worth the money. You do manually empty the bin and long hair jams the rolling vacuum head but it’s small potatoes compared to the dog hair it gets.
This is what their customers will be doing in 6 months when they have to shut down the app.
LLM powered roombas that last 3 months is the future trust.
Got a Roomba for my previous place and it eventually sabotaged itself by scratching the cover of the alignment beam for docking until the unit could no longer align itself with the station. It was an obvious bug in the system, but iRobot wouldn’t provide any customer service without extensive repair costs.
That was the end of my adventures into home robotics.
This pic always confused me. The outlet should have had two running throughout the day for redundant cleaning duty just to show off the technology. It shows a lack of confidence in the product.
Probably liability issues. Some customer doesn’t see it, steps on it, and face plants into the floor then they get sued.
Put a tall little flag on top of each. Well, draw attention to them somehow, not that hard.
It’s legitimately because they are gimmicks. They will never get your floor as clean as a push broom. They replace the lowest hanging fruit of the cleaning cycle which is already very easy, which doesn’t require you to move things out of the way. If you actually want a clean house, the robot vac will do about 10% of the work.
Lol, no.
Without my roborock I’d have cat hair everywhere.
You either don’t have pets or you enjoy sweeping every day. Either way, it’s obviously not for you, but that’s no reason to be disparaging about the tech.
We are thinking of getting a roborock (any recommendations welcome). I don’t expect it to do a deep clean but as it is right now, we have a kid, and ergo, there is sand and crumbs everywhere. We live in a three room apartment. There is so much sand and dirt in the corridor oh my god. I vacuum it two times a day. And then there are crumbles everywhere. I just don’t want to feel like I am walking on literal egg shells most of the time. My back hurts from vacuuming so often and it is loud and unhandy. Will a roborock handle the superficial crumbs, dust, sand? If yes that is enough for me. I need it as an addition to regular cleaning, not as a substitute.
Yes definitely, my cat loves carrying his litter out of the box and the vacuum sucks it all up, you will just need to be mindful about emptying it regularly. Though the new and expensive ones clean themselves out. Ive never used the mop function on mine, but they’re also better on the models with the fancy base station as it changes water for you.
I’ve had mine for almost 4 years now and it goes once a day. It also survived a bunch of diatomaceous earth that it ended up needing to suck up.
I’m not sure what exactly regularly means when it comes to emptying, but if it is once or twice for a run of a 70 square meter apartment that is absolutely fine with me. With cleaning, I don’t mind once a day. Do you think that would be enough? Also, may I ask what model you are using? I’ve read so many professional reviews but somehow a stranger’s opinion on the internet feels more authentic xD
Edit: I’ve literally stepped in dirt and sand while sending the reply :(
I’m afraid your edit made me giggle.
The ones with the docking stations will probably last you like a month. For me, my hairy and litter loving cat, in a 42sqm apartment, the small container in the vaccum fills up in a little less than a week.
It helps if your furniture has enough clearance underneath for it to get under it, it means you need less regular vacuuming.
Im using the S6 Pure, it was released just before they started with their docking stations.
As for which one to get, that I can’t say, it’d depend on your budget, they’re pretty expensive, I paid about €500 for mine a few years ago and the newer model was around $700.
I’d check the features of each, make sure it has the suction power you want, and most importantly, check the noise level, that’s one of my only complaints is that they’re relatively loud because of the high rpm suction motor.
Definitely get one with automatic emptying, it’ll save you a lot of effort too.
Hope that helps.
It helps enormously, this was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you for pointing out the noise level, this is actually the other reason I hate vacuuming. I absolutely cannot stand these kinds of sounds and I want to at least be able to let the robot vacuum a room I am not in and not be bothered by it.
Ive read horror stories about robots like these spreading dog shit all over everything
Oh yeah! It happens, the newer ones have object detection and recognition, I think they’re better at not doing that
No the reason I know they are useless is because I had a hairy dog. I’m sorry you don’t move things out of the way when you clean, and that there are piles of hair wrapped around every cord and behind every obstacle in your house.
But more to the point, yes. I clean quite frequently, because I enjoy both having pets and a clean home.
You don’t have to be so rude.
I’m sorry you leave things on the floor and have a cluttered home. I’m sorry you you have cords all over your floors. I’m sorry you have so many obstacles on your floors, like you don’t clean up your kids/pets toys and have to move them only when sweeping. I’m sorry you’re so disorganized and lazy.
But more to your point, my floors are always free of obstacles when the roborock runs, because I always pick things up and don’t leave them on the floor. Because it takes care of sweeping/vacuuming twice a day, I have the time and energy to focus on other cleaning tasks. As like you, I enjoy both having pets and a clean home, but I additionally enjoy a tidy home.
They’re just an asshole, best not engage.
Meh, you started it
I have very little home automation, but a vacuum robot is one of them and they work great. Mopping and vacuuming.
It’s tedious work out of our hands and I’d say it’s more than 10% because you have to do it all the time.
It’s like ray-eee-aaaaaaiinnnnn
iRonic
Funnily enough my Roomba is the ONE thing I rely on to argue against the “robotic uprising”. When people fawn over 1X’s Neo or Tesla humanoid I can happily testify that as relatively long term mobile robot owner… it sucks! In theory it’s amazing right, in theory you program it, go out while it clean the place, go back to charge itself, etc. So much free time for you now, right?
No… you need to make way for it. You need to actually setup the place for such a basic task. Think you can just “wing it” and let it work while you sip on a cocktail outside? Sure, come back to find it in an enraged BDSM session, rope all over it as it pulls over a char with cable entangle deep inside.
Honestly it’s like AI more broadly : the concept is so simple to understand and the result is something we ALL want… that every single time there is an improvement, no matter how small, we love to speculate that truly this time we are getting “close” to make it work. Truth is, we have no idea of the complexity of the problem.
Related https://rodneybrooks.com/why-todays-humanoids-wont-learn-dexterity/ who did make Roombas and more.
It sucked you say?
While it cuts?
My best buy ever was a $ 20 “dumb roomba”: It was just a little ball with a battery inside that made random movements, and you could put it in a little “cage”.
It did a horrible job, like a 5 year old half-assing it, put hey - $ 20, 0 effort for a little help? Everything was slightly less dusty and hairy, and it pushed most of it into the corners. Saved like 3 minutes per day.
Is ot noisy though? My cheap robot is so fuckyn noisy!
No, it was also quiet. More quiet than the < $ 100 cheap sweep robots with rotating brushes that actually attempt to capture dirt in a compartment inside.
Sad end, though: One day, it decided to just roll away and we never found it again. We thought it’d be under something, but when we moved out a few years ago, it became clear that it decided to find a new home long ago.
Ohh so its purpose is to push dirt to the corners so you clean it up later? Doesnt seem that bad. My robot is one of those with dumb spining brushes and minuscule dirt compartment.
I often use scanner / printers as an example. Its like a robot with a very specific and easy job - feed the paper through one sheet at a time. They’ve been around for 40 years, mass produced, they still cant reliably do that one thing.
With a lot of tech, it seems like solving the first 90% of a problem is easy, then the next 5% very hard and expensive, but the last few percent is impossible.
We see this with so many things - printers, roombas, self driving cars.
With a lot of tech, it seems like solving the first 90% of a problem is easy, then the next 5% very hard and expensive, but the last few percent is impossible.
Definitely, that’s why I do prototyping. The first 90% is super fun and empowering! It’s exhilarating. You start to believe you could do anything. Then… the remaining 90% get harder, and harder, until you’re done it and the very last 90% is even harder! /s
I mean, it’s a shop that sell robot vacuum, and emplyee is sweeping a small space themselves, what’s the issue here? You can’t expect to use the robot to do the work for such a small space.
I can and do
Right? Even if that’s a really suboptimal use of one of those, that’d be a great way to show them off if nothing else.
If I was in the market for one of those things (which… hell no!) and I entered an outlet for them and the first thing I see is a clean floor with one of the little fuckers buzzing around? Fuckin sold. (except hell no)
Well there is a robot unboxed just sitting right there on the chair.
Yea but I can do that without a robot.
Not sure if sarclstic but they make robot mops too and they can work on areas of any size.
In what part does it read like sarcasm?
Also i know, i own one and use it in my bedroom, but in what way does this post fit this sub?
Edit: okay i can see it now. But what i mean is you can’t expect business going the suboptimal way of using a robot to clean such a small space while their employee can do it in 5 min. If the supplier didn’t come with a free sample unit then the owner will have to pay for it themselves. And this is at most an irony, but nothing dystopian about it
To your edit
You really don’t see how what you mean is a dystopian way of thinking? Who fucking cares about what the owner has to pay when the money he is using to pay for it is being generated by the labor of the workers? Instead of the profits from their labor going to improve their working conditions, they are being stolen by an owner who is exploiting their labor for his own personal enrichment. Do you not understand how that is exploitative and dystopian?
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Do you ever work retail? How is sweeping the floor dystopian? Good lord how spoiled you people truly are, to even considered sweeping the floor a dystopian because it didn’t done using machine.
You’re literally trying to make excuses for bosses commanding people to toil needlessly. How fucking warped is your perception of reality?
It’s called a job. Sweeping the floor and cleaning the working environment is part of the job. You guys never work retail or blue collar for small business, that one is clear as daylight.
Gods, it’s actually pathetic how you do not understand how the current work struck for retail and blue collar work is exploitative and dystopian. And absolutely laughing at you trying to call a retailer like this a “small business”
You clearly have no class consciousness
How much is that model? Does she come in Cherry red?
The perfect anti-publicity.
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