• TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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    This got reported as “not LAMF” on the grounds that this person voted for lower grocery prices and got higher ones. This is an understandable argument, because just getting tricked on its own (even if you’re unbelievably stupid to think that things like illegal tariffs and deregulation wouldn’t do this) is not LAMF.

    So let me explain why I kept the post up and still think it fits: she expressly voted for somebody who promised to cut programs like SNAP which make Thanksgivings affordable for millions of people. She expressly wanted these people hurt – to have their Thanksgivings ruined – because to her, they didn’t deserve it.

    “I never thought the leopards would make groceries unaffordable for me!”

    Edit: That said, @bytesonbike@discuss.online, please add alt text to your image or a transcription in the post body for accessibility in accordance with Rule 4.

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    I’d be curious to find out what all of these “this is not what I voted for” people thought they were actually voting for and why they thought that

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      They thought abusing brown people would magically fix all the things they told were bad like universal healthcare, feeding children, and safety regulations.

      They actually thought things would be cheaper with tariffs because Trump said so. They are hateful morons.

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        They are not even thinking that deep. They just think handing assholes with power even more power is how to create more prosperity.

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      I’m going to go out on a limb here and say it wasn’t just about racism. Sure there are Republicans that are racist but there’s still a good percentage of Liberals that are racist too. I think the facts of the matter do indeed matter, and unfortunately that comes with a plethora of misinformation and campaigns designed to target underprivileged voters. Low literacy rates will also exacerbate the divide. I’m so tired of this tirade that because “XYZ” people can’t be treated with human decency. I still believe Republicans deserve a good life, as well as immigrants, poor people, and Democrats. Thats literally the point of leftism is to practise distribution of goods on a need basis instead of on merit.

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        This isn’t 2016 anymore. These people voted for him a 3rd time well after he made it very clear what he stood for. Racism is his defining feature.

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      They voted for things getting cheaper. And not believing that politicians can just make shit up and getting away with it

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        This^

        A lot of them saw the Biden “I did that” stickers blaming him for fuel prices at gas stations, and they believed it.

        They saw Trump on Fox News saying that other countries would eat the cost of tariffs because they would rather lose profit than our business, and they believed it.

        They didn’t see Biden investigate grocers and deny mergers, they didn’t see him using the US petro reserves to stabilize prices, they didn’t see him pass the many great things on affordability in the Inflation Reduction Act, they didn’t see him push affordable alternatives to power and fuel like solar and EVs, they didn’t see him allow new drilling sites despite pushback, they didn’t see it because whenever it was put in their faces they chose not to see it.

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      Trump promised to lower prices. A complaint after he is in office about rising prices should make it very obvious what those people thought they were voting for.

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      After Covid the recovery was K shaped. So the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Trump was hammering out covid benefits, which actually helped a lot of people and before that the economy was doing well. A good bit of that was that Obama left it that way and the Republicans were divided enough to stop Trump from being as bad as he is today.

      So a lot of them just looked back and saw that they did better under Trump then Biden and voted for Trump.

      (Biden tried to do industrial policy, but that takes time, was delayed and money was spend baldy due to corruption. However the general plan was decent.)

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    This tweet is essentially:

    You promised to lower prices, but prices went up, this is NOT what I voted for.

    For it to be LAMF, you have to actually get what you’re expecting others to get. The person you voted for NOT doing what they promised to do is literally the opposite of LAMF.

    Basically:

    I voted for the Leopards Eating Faces party, I never thought they’d…wait, they’re not eating anyone’s faces

    is the equivalent of the situation happening here.

    Not LAMF.

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        I think even ‘adjacent’ is giving it too much credit.

        After all, what’s happened is the literal opposite of what they wanted, while LAMF requires that the thing you supported happening is what happens, you just thought it’d happen to others and not you.

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          I think that to make an adequate determination of that, we would have to know what they did vote for.

          Sure, we can infer it’s probably not a higher grocery bill, but that’s what they didn’t vote for.

          We need to know what they did vote for and whether it relates to the situation at hand.

          Since their motives for voting how they did are impossible to know from this individual post, we would be unable to make an adequate judgement call as to how LAMF, or LAMF adjacent this might, or might not be.

          So everything we’re saying now is conjecture and opinion.

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          Trump promised to do tariffs. People assumed other countries would pay the cost so that was good. It turns out they are paying the cost.

          It would be straight up LAMF if the tariffs were front of mind when they voted. But inflation was what they were most concerned with, and they either didn’t pay attention to Trump’s tariff talk or assumed it wouldn’t be them paying the tariffs… you could say it’s not directly LAMF because people don’t understand the connection between higher tariffs and higher prices, but definitely LAMF adjacent because of the widespread assumption that people in other countries would be paying the tariffs, not them.

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            LAMF lies in the 'victim’s expectation not being met, with respect to who the thing they supported is happening to. What they support and what happened must match; the LAMF lies solely in the ‘I assumed it (what was supported/done) wouldn’t happen to me’.

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      If you think about it on a bigger scale, it still is her getting what she expected others to get. The Trumpian/fictional definition of tariffs claims that other countries will now “pay their fair share”. Which is utter bullshit because the companies have always passed on as much of the cost of a tariff as the market will bear, if they can afford to absorb any at all. In interviews they are STILL repeatedly pretending like other countries are paying the tariffs and the rise in costs has nothing to do with them.

      Anyways, she expected other countries costs to go up, not hers. Classic leopard eating face, imo.

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    “this is NOT what I thought I voted for when I knowingly voted to be taxed on all foreign food and to lock up the people picking domestic food” …Well, then what did you think you were voting for?

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      when I knowingly voted to be taxed on all foreign food

      You’re assuming “knowingly”. Trump told people tariffs were going to lower costs, falsely claiming that the foreign countries would be picking up that tab. If person X doesn’t independently know/learn that tariffs basically never work that way, then the OP reaction makes perfect sense.

      This also isn’t LAMF at all—LAMF is about supporting something being done, but expecting (without evidence) that it will only be done to Others, and not you. She obviously didn’t support raising prices at all—the person you voted for NOT doing as they promised is failing to meet the most fundamental requirement for an LAMF situation.

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      I’ve seen 5 guys praying together with a single woman. Well it looked like she was praying for a few minutes.

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        “Oh God” is a prayer right? In that cases she was praying again and again and again.

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          Guys can only pray with 5 guys at one time unless the other guys are praying too with others. Yeah they usually also scream oh god too.

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    $300 for one meal? How many people is she feeding??

    Kroger

    Oh, so like 5.

    Aldi forever. No, it is not the same company as Trader Joe’s if you’re wanting to talk about union busting. I say this because it happens every time.

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      Dude, we got an Aldi in my town, and I love it. Sure some of the stuff is different, and even has a tad different flavor…but I almost always feel my heart aching with relief when I see how much we get from Aldi with such low prices. My food stamps go so much further there. Thst place is a blessing to me and my family.

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      You know that it’s common for people to feed 10 to 20 people on Thanksgiving, right? Plus there were probably leftovers and I highly doubt there was no alcohol in that purchase, which adds up quickly.

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        I think serving 20 easily comes to like 700 bucks. We just did it, 20 people over 6 families/ couples and we each only brought 1-3 dishes, but with all the ingredients for sides and desserts, and then drinks and juice and tablecloths and blah blah blah I think each family easily spent 70 and a few of us spent 200. And we’re frugal by nature, definitely Aldi shoppers, used real dishes instead of paper. There were plenty of leftovers, so you could argue it’s two meals, I guess. I guess it depends on your region, too.

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        Every Thanksgiving of my childhood involved at least 1 gathering with 20+ family members, no one person in my family ever spent the inflation adjusted equivalent of that on Thanksgiving because it just wasn’t a financial option. Every household brought 1 or 2 dishes so that the host wasn’t responsible for paying to feed everyone, because when you have a large extended family that’s nuts.

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    Fun Fact, since executive orders really only apply to the operations of the federal government and its employees, the Tariffs aren’t actually legal.

    Big shipping magnates and importers could probably sue the federal government over any attempt to enforce the tariff, ignoring them all the while.

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    I feel like some of the people here should consider why we all know she would vote the same way if an election was held immediately after making this post.

    They are getting something that they desire more than lower grocery costs or anything sane things any sane person would value.

    They are getting to hurt marginalized people with their votes.

    This is their single voter issue, and its the reason why no matter how much they’ve shot themselves in the foot, they’ll buy that 500 dollar advil their insurance denied coverage for and load up another shell.

    They don’t evaluate politicians based on if they’re happy. They evaluate politicians based on if who they hate feel sad.

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      I feel like some of the people here should consider why we all know she would vote the same way if an election was held immediately after making this post.

      Because, except for a minute percentage, all of you vote team color, no matter what.

      That minute percentage gets to be finger-wagged at for not wanting to vote for a party that is enthusiastically supporting a genocide killing their family and friends abroad, or sitting idly by while fascism takes root here in the US, or ignoring that basic living is becoming unaffordable. Because, totally, why should anyone expect that working full time pays for rent, utilities, health care, AND groceries?

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        You can not want to do something and still recognize that abstaining from that vote is against the best interests of those who will be harmed if the wrong people end up gaining power. I sure didn’t like voting for Kamala. But I’m smart enough to realize that was the best option I had.

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          Tbf the only reason “she was our best option” is because so many people fall into the two party trap and absolutely refuse to organize and vote for a third party candidate despite having tools to organize better than any time in history. That “but muh two parties” attitude from all of you is a larger part of what’s holding us back than any of you realize.

          Btw, to all of you asking “where are the third party people outside of election season” and saying “right now we have to vote to extend genocides, talk about change after” well you just downvoted the one above us 8 times, as every time one posts you must enforce the two party system even during the time you previously deemed it “ok” (no elections going on that I’m aware of).

          I’d have a lot more respect for Democrat voters if they’d stop lying about it. You don’t wish there was a third option, you strike down conversation about it unilaterally, you like the two party system at least enough to perpetuate it instead of even look for or consider another option. Just admit you like the democrats and while I may disagree at least you’re being honest with yourselves and others.

          Or y’know maybe instead of being a crab in a bucket, be a drop in the bucket of change, every person who votes outside the two party system is one more drop closer to ending the two party system (or at least changing which “two parties” are the big ones, which would still be a step.)

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            It really doesn’t matter at the federal level how you vote. Both parties have a stranglehold on Washington and they will until there’s a nationwide cataclysm of some sort.

            The only power any of us has is local, and you can do a fuckton of good in your neighborhood if you’re just willing to spend a few minutes doing so.

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              That’s the exact defeatist attitude I’m talking about, rather than even try to do anything at the federal level that might spark any change, just accept it, it won’t change until the volcano under Yellowstone kills us all and we might as well perpetuate it for drama.

              Doing local shit is good too, but if that’s how you feel about the national level you may as well just not vote, since it’s inevitable anyway.

              But at least quit lying to yourselves and the rest of us, next time someone supports a third party don’t say “I agree we need change, but it’s not the time to talk about this…” say “it’s useless, there is no change, give up hope, stop trying, there’s never a time to talk about this.”

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                but if that’s how you feel about the national level you may as well just not vote, since it’s inevitable anyway.

                You’re right, and that’s becoming increasingly clear, which is why millions more skipped Election Day in 2024 rather than miss a badly-needed days pay. That’s not their fault nor mine, but it is reality. There is no reason to vote when both parties do exactly the same shit.

                It’s going to become even more clear after the 2026 elections when the major provisions of the BBB kick in and the new international trade deals, rerouting supply chains around the US instead of through it, come into play.

                Unless you’re a billionaire, you have no power outside your zip code.

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                  Good, at least you’re honest about it. While I may disagree and think even a protest vote is better than a protest-nonvote, and that if everyone organized behind a third party then it’d go a long way to (if the election then gets stolen blatantly by the two) having a more organized structure for resistance in place, at least you’re not one of the people I’m talking about who just buries their head in sand in support of the “lesser” instead burying your head in the sand in support of nihilism, which is better.

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          But I’m smart enough to realize that was the best option I had.

          No.

          You, like them, are just a-okay with swallowing excuses. That or you’re one of the folks fortunate enough that your only concern is making it to brunch. The rest of us pay for our groceries, medical bills, power bills, and rent and know full well just how evil the lesser evil was in this election.

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            Why didn’t i think of voting for the non-existent awesome choice in the last election? Voting for non-existent awesome choice would’ve solved all of our problems!

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              There was a good choice in the primaries: Marianne Williamson. You guys decided you wanted the brain dead old guy.

              She was even opposed to starving Palestinian kids, but I guess that wasn’t a big enough selling point.

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    Oops, you said bad things about Dear Leader. Elmo will be suspending you soon for lying about patriotism, and the DOJ is preparing terrorism charges.