Helping other people -sometimes by putting yourself in active danger- is so… selfish and privileged???
Seriously, I’d love to hear this person’s idea of what someone with generational wealth should be doing to be a good person.
making a lotta MONEY! probably.
That’s “generating value for the economy” to you, peasant.
It’s trickling down any minute now!!!
Don’t make me come down there and CREATE fewer JOBS!! Because I’m going to do that on my own tomorrow anyway
This person probably thinks nobody deserves a life the slightest less miserable as theirs
“Why doesn’t she get a real rich parents job like Senior Financial Analytics Executive?”
No, you got to understand:
The best thing to do is launch several startups that will either fail or succeed by sucking all the life of your employees and if you can make your customers lives miserable also you hit the jackpot.
You see, unprivileged people are too busy working for a living to try to change the system that destroys the world while keeping most people too busy and exhausted to change the system. This is of course, the fault of the people that tries to change the system, apparently.
what someone with generational wealth should be doing to be a good person.
Give their butler a generous holiday bonus after they drive you home insufferably drunk on new years
Ugh you let your butler drive you places? That’s not how you butle properly. Mine uses a rickshaw.
Peasant. Mine uses his arms to carry me everywhere in a human throne.
They’re pretty obviously a Zionist troll, paid or not, and as such they will never argue in good faith nor have basic moral standards.
They’re probably self-deprecating to the point where they see her trying to help and feel inadequate for not being able to do the same. They understand that she has the resources to do so and they don’t, but those feelings of inadequacy still don’t go away, so they just want her to be gone so that they don’t have to feel that way anymore.
I see that line of thinking all the time in people who have internalized the American propaganda of “work hard and you’ll find success.” They can’t process the fact that they’re working as hard as they can without achieving success, so they rebel against the idea of success itself regardless of how its used, because they see that as easier to topple than the broken system that causes the issue in the first place.
They’re in such distress that they no longer care about whether we’re moving forward or backward as a society, so long as they feel a bit better right now. It’s exactly where the elite want us to be.
she could have easily become a liberal grifter. instead she puts her life at risk to help others. she’s probably one of the best people on the face of the earth.
Yeah, this. Every day we see people succumbing to the lure of monetizing having tons of attention on them, and a distinct brand.
Also, her parents aren’t that rich:
Using Sweden’s publicly available income tax data, which is generally regarded as being very trustworthy, makes it abundantly evident that the Thunbergs are by no means affluent elites. They represent, at most, what may be called well-off professionals who live simply in a nice part of Stockholm.
Can you name some examples of well known liberal grifters?
John Fetterman and Krysten Sinema come to mind. Most self described “liberal” politicians, really.
anyone who gets paid to tell rich people at Davos to “Stop it, please”
Anyone currently being paid by CHORUS should qualify
According to Peter Thiel, she’s the antichrist.
Stop, you’ve already sold me on how cool she is.
I really wish I could do what Greta does. I’m glad she does it for those of us who can’t.
Is activism contemporary monasticism?
IIRC, European medieval age societies used or required monasticism to carry out or legitimate deviant behaviour (in retrospect, some of it good, some of it bad) by saying that monks are doing the religious work for them.
I don’t think consider Thunbergs behaviour bad or not noteworthy, but I think our work isn’t exactly to heroise Thunberg as a person and be done with the topics.
I want to point out that is not what you said, but that’s what a lot of people read into this.
Punk and anarchism had this mantra of “kill your idols” and what is meant by that, is that we should turn our heroes back into actionable behaviours of people like you and me.
Criticising someone for trying to make the world a better place makes you the most pathetic loser on the face of the planet.
I peeped their Twitter account and they’re absolutely a trash human being.
The biggest enemy of any leftist is a slightly different leftist
Damn leftists! They ruined leftism!!
Where do you get the idea that a Zionist is a leftist from?
Gretta?
The person in the screenshot complaining about Greta.
Because one else here is being negative about her. So I can’t see where else this imaginary leftist enemy is coming from.
Oh I don’t know who she is. This sort of stuff is so common
I don’t either, but the emojis in their name give it away.
Bold of you to think I pay attention to Twitter users at that level
Commenters on here keep telling me left and liberal are different things. Like, shut the fuck up please.
What a weird response to learning something new. It must be pretty unpleasant to be like that.
stfu please
No worries, I’m blocking you 😘
Newsflash: Different words have different meanings, more at 11…
…are they not? I’m confused.
I know right? And the downvotes dont make it any more clear
It would probably help if you expanded on your statement a bit.
I’m guilty of this
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Using the phrase “useless activism” says everything we need to know about the poster.
How can you take her seriously when she doesn’t even generate value for her capitalist overlords?
Have made a few searches on Greta Thunberg and her parents and they are not “rich”. They are better off than average in Sweden but calling them rich is a bit of a stretch.
Is this the classic misdirection where anyone who isn’t poor is classified as rich so you can incite them against policies that would target “the rich”, when they’re actually two or three orders of magnitude away from being (negatively) affected by those policies?
I mean, yeah. That is a privilege. She is privileged to be able to be an activist.
People acting like “privilege” is some awful phrase is why MAGA types go out of their way to deny their privilege.
Doing what greta has done was never an option for me. But things I’ve done were never options for other people. And that doesn’t make either of us bad people. Just lucky.
If you have the privilege to do whatever you want, hopefully “whatever you want” is positive and not punching down
People acting like “privilege” is some awful phrase is why MAGA types go out of their way to deny their privilege.
That’s because maga types are deeply, fundamentally, stupid. They don’t think, they feel. When you say to one “You’re privileged by being white so you don’t get bothered as much by the police” they feel bad, and that’s all. That’s part of why they can hold contradictory positions without any apparent discomfort. The words are contradictory but the feelings are consistent.
When you say to one “You’re privileged by being white so you don’t get bothered as much by the police” they feel bad
no, they feel good. that is exactly how world is supposed to work in their heads. for a short time in history they knew it was not strategic to say that out loud, but that short moment has passed now.
They feel bad towards you saying that.
MAGA is based on American evangelicalism. To this form of Christian, being the perpetual victim is crucial to their belief. Acknowledging privilege makes it hard for them to see themselves as a cosmic victim, so they reject the idea.
Calling any kind of activism “useless” is pretty evil in my opinion.
I like the way you think and I wish I could share it, but I’ve met some real shitty activists. The protest outside of planned parenthood type, and honestly useless is about the kindest thing I can say about them.
I agree that there are bad kinds of activism too, but its still not useful to call even them “useless” as this just dismisses their still very real effects.
Star of David and Monarchial Iran flag?
100% a Zionist troll, probably an IDF account.
Imagine saying that to Batman 😂
That’s actually a thing!
IIRC, the idea is that many of the people Batman beats up are just desperate, and not evil, so instead using all that Bruce Wayne money on healthcare, rehabilitation, housing, and other services that benefit the poor would decrease the amount of crime way more than going around punching people ever would.
As far as I know Bruce has tons of charities and uses a lot of his money to help improve lifes. But gotham is cursed
And for anyone not familiar, Gotham is literally cursed. Like, dark wizards and demons cursed.
Too bad Bruce already does this with his fortunes and has set up so many charities, homeless centers, orphanages, work centers, … He even helped a couple of goons get a job at Wayne enterprise.
It is only because Gotham is literally cursed that it does not work.
So the people who say that really never read any of the comics.
Bruce spends billions on healthcare, charities, homeless programs, food banks, and endless and countless other things to help
That’s literally the entire point of the Bruce Wayne persona. He’s a rich playboy that gives away endless money for good deeds.
Batman is a fictional character made specifically to glorify rich people. Even the most ‘nice’ or ‘generous’ millionaires+ are leagues and leagues beneath Batman.
Which by the way is not to say we cannot enjoy Batman or any ither fiction. Just pointing out broader context.
This is actually why they had the idea to reinvent the character without wealth. The comics “Absolute Batman” are really good. Bruce grew up as a construction worker. The Joker is a billionaire.
I was a fan of the 60s Batman (no, I’m not that old, I was just introduced to the classics at a young age). Adam West and Burt Ward were my Batman and Robin.
He was a millionaire in the 60s.
Here’s the really funny part. In the 1960s Batman Movie, Julie Newmar plays the Catwoman (she’s one of my favorite Catwomen because of this role, but Eartha Kitt will always hold a special place in my heart.) In this edition, Catwoman decides to go undercover as a journalist for the Moscow Bugle. Her legend for the mission is that she is a Russian Communist, during the height of the USSR’s economic and military threat level against the US.
Bruce Wayne falls madly in love with her. Catwoman, being a consummate espionage artist, snaps the trap and kidnaps Bruce Wayne. Bruce, as Batman, later finds out this woman who stole his heart was one of his sworn enemies. Literally as he’s chasing her, trying to find Miss Kitka, because he thinks she hurt her. Only for her mask to fall off, to find out that he got, well… catfished. Adam West deserved an Academy Award for those tears of shock and grief.
The subtext at the time was that the US was starting to try to repair its bad relationship with the USSR, and push forward with nuclear disarmament. It was a reflection of the betrayal of the first failed nuclear negotiations that were hanging so heavily in the public mind.
Batman has always been complex regarding the role of the rich in politics. Really, it depends entirely on who’s writing the story how that context is approached and how Bruce uses it. It isn’t consistent because the writers have changed as much as the world has. I’m glad to see Absolute Batman subverting the traditional Batman mythos by making him a working class hero and putting the Joker in front of the bank vault this time.
This is the wildest take I’ve seen all day
Here’s the thing; if you remove the word “useless” from that statement, I have no issue with it (other than it being factually inaccurate that Greta’s parents are “rich”).
Yes, it would be the definition of privilege to be well off enough that you can spend your life focused on activism. And that’s OK.
Having privilege is not a moral judgment. You’re not a bad person because of it. It’s just a fact of life. What’s important is to understand your privileges. If she was going around moralizing at other people for not spending all their life on activism even though they’ve got bills to pay and kids to feed, that would be a shitty thing to do. But as the reply in the OP says, recognizing your privileges and using them to help those who are not fortunate in the same ways is exactly the behaviour we want to see more of, from everyone. That can be as simple as being the guy in the meeting who says “Hold on, I really want to hear what Sandra has to say” because you know she’s being talked over. It can be a white person filming the cop as they arrest a black kid, because you know that your skin colour affords you a level of safety in that situation. You use the advantages you’re given to help others.
I saved this comment that @JoMiran@lemmy.ml made (different post, same community) when I scrolled by it a few weeks ago.
This is a Lemmy gold worthy comment (imo), but also want to make sure they get credit:
And if she got a “real” job people would call her a nepo baby. There is no winning with these insane people. Not to mention she doesn’t even come from a rich family.
This. They hate her because they hate her. Not because she doesn’t work.
I mean, yes, she is privileged, but she’s using that privilege to do some great stuff.
unlike some rich people like Musk, and THIEL who seems very obsessed with her.
