Donald Trump has issued his latest threat to Iran and said that if officials fail to make a deal with the United States “the whole country is going to get blown up.”

The president also made threats Sunday morning to target civil infrastructure after it was reported that Iranian forces were refusing to allow ships to pass through the Strait of Hormuz this weekend.

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      Idk, I think I’m going to scream at voters for this. Primarily leftist voters, though. I still think I can win over the conservative voters and Congress critters by being nice to them.

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        I’m still screaming at voters, they made an incredibly stupid decision and are now too immature to admit it.

        You help Trump come to power, you’re a fucking scumbag, not a hero.

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          You help Trump come to power

          More than likely no, you didn’t. The election was on rails when Biden decided to drag his moldy ass into a race he couldn’t win, rather than stepping aside after a single term and opening up the primary. Trump came to power because Merrick Garland refused to prosecute him for his many crimes and Silicon Valley swept in to money bomb him.

          Individual voters had no say in any of that. The EC guaranteed they had only the most marginal say in which way their state went. And even the on-the-ground campaigns were dwarfed by the degree of corporate, industrial, and overseas manipulation of public opinion.

          To say any given voter is “responsible” for Trump is like blaming any given butterfly for the next hurricane.

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    I blame the criminally passive GOP congresscritters and senators for letting Trump and his fascist henchmen destroy the country. All it would take is for a few of them to agree to 25th Trump’s ass and impeach Vance and Kegbreath for this madnest to end right this minute.

    History will not be kind to them, and I hope the courts will hold them accountable for what they did one day too.

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      Don’t let them or the media convince you that their actions are passive. They have had many opportunities to put the brakes on this administration, and every time they deliberately side with Trump. Every Republican congressperson is complicit with his agenda.

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      You kidding me. Once this fucker is gone, every single one of them will decide that the orange lying asshole was the only problem, and will reliably pull their team’s lever again and again…

      Edit - goddamned autocorrect.

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        I guarantee you if God existed, he would not ro-ro with those clowns.

        If I was a Christian, I would feel offended by the GOP: they talk a lot about Jesus but they don’t actually follow the teachings of Jesus very much. And that’s hardly new.

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    So that relatively small group of soldiers sitting in boats far from shore without adequate food or supplies are going to crush the much larger and entrenched entire Iranian military now huh. Sounds real scary.

    One silver lining to all this is that evidently Trump has learned that its harder to attack a mid sized country halfway around the world --without allies-- in challenging terrain – than it is to attack some unarmed civilians trying to get to work in portland or minneapolis.

    Progress of a sort.

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      The soldiers won’t do a thing, US Navy-Air Force will toss bombers and missiles; they’ll do small special ops too, of course.

      I don’t think they’ll ever use the Army-Marines, too much risk.

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        Sounds about right. No armor called up either. They could have activated one for show at least.

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      Absolutely crazy how many terminally online people casually call for someone to just throw their life away.

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        Saying you’re surprised something hasn’t happened is a long shot from encouraging that it’s done.

        With the amount of unstable and desperate people out there I’m surprised nobody’s kidnapped Elon musks kids for ransom. I don’t wish his kids any harm, and don’t hope it happens, but I’m still a bit surprised that it hasn’t happened when you consider the amount of people out there with nothing to lose, questionable morals, and a big desire to make a lot of money.

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        I mean at least 1/3 of Americans say it’s why we have the 2nd amendment. And 2/3 of the Supreme Court would likely agree, just they wouldn’t admit we are at that point where it is necessary. It’s ingrained in our culture down to the American revolution. But yeah, whenever leftist groups arm themselves they get wiped out, see the Black Panthers as an example.

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      Turns out that the Secret Service really is one of the few truly competent branches of government still around these days. I guess it’s just always, regardless of party or doctrine, in the best interest of the president to have the service operate with extreme competence. Trump will happily fill government branches full of incompetent goons instructed to gum up the works. He’ll happily dismantle multiple Congress-mandated departments and programs. He’ll grift off every bit of government graft he can. But I bet the Secret Service is the one he actually lets be run competently. If there’s anything the man cares about, it’s himself.

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          Getting a gun is the easiest part.

          Then you need to find an opportunity and make a plan for it. Then execute the plan and adapt to unforeseen circumstances. Training with the firearm and other preparations make sense as well. If you want to shoot Trump from close range you might need to social engineer your way into an opportunity. You will also need money for a bunch of expenses besides a gun.

          There have been two attempts to shoot Trump that I remember, maybe more. The secret service is a formidable security provider for him.

          You will also have to risk being shot by secret service or be ready to serve a long prison sentence or even the death penalty. Not such an easy decision.

          Teamwork has its own challenges. Building a team and making group decisions is already difficult, if you’re planning a fishing trip. A high profile assassination is a different league. Finally any team member might get cold feet, change their mind, and snitch to the authorities. Then you go to prison without having achieved anything of substance.

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            All very good points.

            My “teamwork” comment would work if there was a “no kings” rally but with guns and it was a march on Washington. Obviously that would be borderline impossible to organize but at this point I think a loud enough public call to action (maybe by a celeb) could actually make it happen.

            As far as doing it like James Bond, I don’t think there would be an escape there. It would be a suicide mission, accepting that you’ll die is part of it.

            Your comment never touched on fertilizer bombs like Timothy Mcvay (would be tough to get close but not impossible). Especially with an MMA event happening on the front lawn of the white house soon.

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        It is, but at the same time it happens very often. Was it half or 1/3 of all US presdents died by being shot? And most of those were not actively trying to destroy their own country and any international relations it had.

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          Actually died? Lol, no. Four out of 46, or roughly 8-9%. Lincoln, garfield, mckinley, kennedy.

          If you include those shot at you can up those numbers a bit. Off the top of my head roosevelt, trump, reagan, and the other roosevelt, ford,

          Jackson is the fun story, where an assassin pulled two pistols and both of them misfired or jammed. Taft had an assassin apprehended before he shot. Truman had assassins in the white house, but wasn’t in immediate shooting range/sight line. Nixon had a guy who wanted to shoot him, but the car went by too fast, so the assassin later shot a governor. Obama and clinton both had rifles fired at the white house.

          So if we include everything involving firearms, we have lincoln, garfield, mckinley, kennedy, roosevelts 1&2, ford, reagan, jackson, obama, and clinton. That’s 11/46, or ~24%. Bump that up a wee bit if you want taft to be included.

          There’s also some standouts for grenades and bombs, but we were originally talking about death by being shot, so…

          https://.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

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            Thanks for clarifying. Dont know where I heard that statistic from, I think it was some meme about it being the most dangerous job. I was probably remembering it wrong…

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    The question is, will the Secret Service do its duty if he decides to nuke Iran? Because he sounds crazier than ever to me, if any President would, it’s him.

    Hopefully, an agent will follow their oath to protect the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

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      Considering the SS paraded the photographers and journalists around Trump when his “ear got shot off,” and that crane that slowly lowered the flag down for that infamous picture. I’d say they’re all for on board.

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        The topmost leadership’s in the military? Yes. The rest? Absolutely not.

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      Spook the market Sunday, spend spend the first half of the week blustering, place Polymarket bets on Thursday, announce the problem is solved and count your profits Friday, golf on Saturday (well, actually every day, but Saturday you don’t have to tweet if you don’t want to).

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    Trump talks the talk, but I would be surprised if the Iranians didn’t quietly start to walk the walk and prepare some blowing up of their own.