It will well and truly be dead and gone once old.reddit.com stops working. It remains the one good way to view the site, regardless of device.
My theory is that they realize that a significant number of power users on the site are still using old.reddit.com, so they are keeping it going because getting rid of it would turn the website into a ghost town. They will continue to push their app and new website because they can push more advertising through it to the people that are just there to consume.
You think there are still redditors around?
I think it’s just troll farms and bots. Every once in a while someone stumbles into the site and says something. THEN there is a whirlwind of answers/speculations/theories/lies.
A.I is running the show. If I use a certain word or phrase I get filtered. If I say the exact same thing without those “catch phrases” then I see a few votes.
I treat the site as a test site for trying language that gets PAST the trolls.
One thing I’ve noticed lurking on AITA is that there’s suddenly more people casually talking about being religious. Not like overtly preaching like you’d see in the past, but more people referencing going to church or doing things for religious reasons.
It just seemed out of place and weird. Like the tone of that part of the internet suddenly changed. It’s still more liberal than conservative, though that conflict seems to be mostly just not present, perhaps in part because of their rule against political topics, though even when some slip through, it does seem to lean more liberal or even progressive than conservative. Like plenty of abortion support, no broad support for tribal or hierarchical judgements. But it suddenly seems more religious. Christian, specifically.
While church attendance is NOW declining rapidly?
I suspect a Christian troll farm at work here. They NEED to indoctrinate at an early age to survive.
They can’t use FACTS, their bible doesn’t have any good ones.
As a history nerd there are a lot of pretty good facts in the bible, and there are lots of things that are actually historically accurate. So no I wouldn’t say there aren’t any good facts
Good facts for indoctrinating youth.
I could have been a bit clearer. My bad.
You think there are still redditors around?
I think it’s just troll farms and bots. Every once in a while someone stumbles into the site and says something. THEN there is a whirlwind of answers/speculations/theories/lies.
I guess it depends on where you look. All the subs I’ve been visiting where people actually hang out, rather than just a handful of karma farmers spamming, are still flourishing*, so I never fully switched to Lemmy, but use both 🤷 Reddit subs have a magnitude or two more people, so imho they’re better for news, memes and technical advice, while for the past couple years Lemmy feels better for insightful conversations.
* my main subs are for specific games and apps, a few countries/regions, and r/BestofRedditorUpdates, so ymmv
I think the bot percentage is proportional to how big a subreddit is and how profitable influencing people browsing it is.
Niche community about how to proplift (stealing small cuttings to grow your own plants)? Zero or close to zero bots.
Crypto community with thousands of comments a day, where it’s all speculation that can’t be objectively disproven* so bots stick out like a sore thumb and tons of money flying around? You better believe the bots are all over that.
Makes sense!
Of course there are redditors around; I’m another one of them. We frequent the cool subs like the very human /r/FreeGameFindings and ignore the rest of the noise. Milk Reddit for the best of what it has to offer and dismiss the rest. I see nothing wrong with this approach for as long as Lemmy is still budding, relatively speaking.
I just left last month, I’d say 30% users and rest bots
I think it’s just troll farms and bots
It’s mostly the most frequented subreddits that are being brigaded and farmed.
I can guarantee you the Argentina subreddit is heavily brigaded by the extreme right. That’s the case I know, but it’s easy to imagine it happening in a lot of not so popular subreddits
It really depends on the subreddits I think. It was starting to really go downhill before I was booted, but most of the issues floated around political, news and general subreddits from what I could tell.
Get into interests, like football or music and there seemed to be less rubbish and bot accounts so to speak. I guess this makes sense but that’s what I noticed going out the ban door as I was.
I haven’t checked how big the ones that I still frequent there (like /r/manybaggers and /r/onebag) but they do still have organic real people posts. Anything news, tech, or politics, anything of that size, I just abandon any hope they’re not troll infested and LLM bots. Not to mention meme subs and themed artwork subs. Just full of vote farming bots. I need the art source, you dinguses!
On the bright side, /r/sbcgaming have a comms here and can also tie into retrogaming
As well as flashlights.
Idk the nish communities are really helpful, 3d printing, Photoshop help, all that kind of stuff. Hell I even was able to have my Dad’s memorial pic photoshopped by somebody. It turned out good too
There’s no objective data to confirm or dispel your suspicion that there are
zerofew human Redditors (your hyperbole aside).There’s definitely tons of bots posting and voting (and likely always has been), but I really doubt a large percentage of commenters are bots.
- A non-bot redditor
There’s no objective data to confirm or dispel
You are correct. I have been paying attention to this for a few YEARS now. It is just MY observation of events I have seen. It is NOT my opinion, it is MY direct observation.
Clearly more study is needed. By THIS administration? NEVERMIND!
Why do you think you’re able to detect a bot by their Reddit comments? I strongly suspect you’re assuming low-effort, poorly-written comments are bots, when in reality they’re probably just dumb people.
I am 72 years old and I have been on Reddit for 20 years.
I can tell when key words are suppressed by posting the same thing without using those key words.
I’m not just watching what they say, I’m watching what they do, and how FAST they do it.
I’ve been on Reddit for decades too, and I disagree with you.
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Assuming that a post wasn’t made and made visible because it has key words that were censored isn’t based on logic; you’re guessing.
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I type fast enough that to a 72 year old it might look like magic or a bot.
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Honestly I find the website borderline unreadable.
On mobile website you haven’t been able to view and replies for a long time. On desktop it’s just so fucking stupid.
Well, there it is. I don’t have a phone.
Clearly my experience is NOT the norm.
(I do have a device at my house that uses VOIP to “act” like a phone)
Old reddit still has screens and moderation tools that haven’t been rebuilt. It’s kept on life support for mods right now.
I think you are vastly underestimating the amount of people that only interact with social media through apps in this day and age. Even on Reddit I would be surprised if the old design is more than a few percent of the user base.
It honestly does raise the question of why they are still maintaining the old UI. It seems like it would be an annoying legacy product to keep alive for a tiny part of the user-base. Perhaps it’s used as an API stability canary or something though.
Not at all. I’m comparing the vast majority that only consume to a small minority that actually interact and provide the content that others consume. Without that minority all that would be left is bot comments.
Reddit pushes an ad and tracking infested app to make money off the consumers while doing the minimum to keep the content submitters on the site even if they make no money off them. I wouldn’t be surprised if old reddit was a couple percent of users but 25% of the comments that aren’t bots.
old.reddit.com on mobile is a bit rough but otherwise yeah
Use the Slide fork!
from what I heard and saw from some mods (who can see the statistics on the old.reddit usage), it’s less than 10%, sadly.
the vast majority is using the shitty new design
Or the app exclusively, and probably aren’t aware of the web interface at all.
Reddit went full Facebook by making it more accessible to the general public, with the predictable Eternal September results.
they realize that a significant number of power users on the site are still using old.reddit.com
Wonder how they feel about people like me, who use a third party Reddit app on Android? They get no ad revenue from me, and I don’t contribute either.
how are you still doing that, I thought they all shut down like three years ago with the whole API debacle
Reddit blocked third party apps but they didn’t block personal-use API access. With the help of some apk-editing tools that I won’t mention here, you could import your own API key into a third party apps and continue using it fully (including posting and commenting). I’m using Reddit Sync still.
My API key still works, but my understanding is Reddit recently blocked the generation of new keys. So at some point my key will probably die too. At that point, that’s the end of Reddit for me.
wait recently blocked? did they end up reverting the change they did back when the API thing was done? that was one of the things they did then was restrict API key generation
On android you can using redreader for free. I’m still using it for anonim read only reddit
The main change was them charging for the API so you can simply make a developer API key for free and patch it into apps. I’m using Boost and it still works well.
I think there are still “read-only” clients. I haven’t looked in awhile, but I know there were some available via F-Droid (alternative app store) long after the API was cut off. I assume they use standard web scraping for grabbing content.
Also, I’m not sure if it still works, but I think you can still use open source clients that rely on the API, you just have to compile/build them yourself using your account’s own personal API key.
I haven’t looked into either of these in a while and definitely not an expert on the topic, but I’m sure if you’re interested there’s enough info out there to find a solution that works for you.
AFAIK there are a few, “read only” apps. iOS has RDX, not sure about Android.
I’ve answered to a sibling comment, but I’ll duplicate here. Hydra is not read-only and works really well on iOS.
I use stealth on android. It’s limited. Gifs show as links. No where near as good as sync used to be. But still better than the website if I end up there via a google search.
I have the same thought. I still use Reddit, 100% on Old Reddit and I think objectively you could say I contribute a lot in terms of comments and participation. If old Reddit goes away, I’m done.
Sadly this is (very popular, according to comments here and on Reddit) copium. old.reddit.com visits are a rounding error, per the traffic stats of the normie subreddit I moderate:
Most people simply do not have the technical acumen and tenure on Reddit to know to type in that subdomain. As always, relevant XKCD (posted today on Lemmy, funnily enough):
I said it in another response, it isn’t visits I’m talking about, it’s about who generates content on the website and what percentage of those users use old.reddit.
It isn’t copium either, we are speculating why Reddit keeps up the old version at all, after all this time they must have some analytics that it would significantly harm the site to disable it.
I don’t have any evidence either way as far as who uses old.reddit to submit versus who doesn’t, and I don’t think there is any.
Well they certainly are driving more people to it by removing /r/all except on the old subdomain.
I keep seeing people saying that Reddit will be dead when this or that happens. I’ve seen a handful of those things come to pass already and reddit it doing just fine.
Most people don’t care. They will continue using it. It will survive.
Reddit is doing fine and Reddit is fine are two different things.
Most users complain consistently about it. That’s not a good sign for them.
Their popular posts don’t get as many upvotes/comments as they used to. There’s definitely a decline in usage.
It’s being overrun by bots.
Tons of people are getting bot banned off the platform.
It’s not like it’s going to just disappear anytime soon. But I’ve seen this many times before. It’s a dying platform. But it’ll be a slow death. And by death I mean it’ll just become irrelevant compared to other platforms. It’ll probably never actually go away. No one I know uses Facebook anymore. It used to be HUGE. We ALL used it. Now it’s a ghost town on my feed. I’ve messaged people and never got a response and run into them at a birthday or something months later and “Oh sorry, I don’t check it anymore”. It’s still there, but may as well not be. That’s Reddit’s future.
I’ve read this exact comment a hundred and one times before you just wrote it. The average end user does not care. We are a vocal minority.
It takes time for the comment to bear out in truth. I’d back it though, it’ll be a slow drip but they’ll all be over here in a few years time.
Two things I noticed was most subreddits that weren’t front pagers are getting way less traffic than they used to across the entire site.
The other is why I left: I saw a front page millions of subscribers subreddit go out of their way to temporarily bot purge during the IPO* drama. Upvotes went from 10k+ to…hundreds. Posting frequency fell off a cliff. It was so disturbing I left because I saw that in conjunction with Benn Jordan’s video estimating how much of xshitter was bot traffic which he estimated to be a full third of all traffic on xshitler a year ago.
I’m not defending reddit, nor care if reddit dies, but you are saying shit as if it is fact and not providing any sources to back up anything you are saying, and it might as well be reading nonsense from a Facebook MAGA boomer
I built this firefox addon to help people move from reddit: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lemmy-deep-lighthouse/
I’m not entirely sure what this does? It automatically creates a copy of a post to lemmy when you post on reddit?
I wonder if a plugin that does the opposite would be helpful? Something that automatically creates a link post on the relevant reddit community when you post on lemmy.
It died for me the day they got rid of .compact
Yup.
I’m down to only using Old Reddit on desktop while I’m stuck at work on weekdays. No time for that shithole on weekends.
If Old Reddit goes, that’ll be it for Reddit for me.
Sadly this is (very popular, according to comments here and on Reddit) copium. old.reddit.com visits are a rounding error, per the traffic stats of the normie subreddit I moderate:
Most people simply do not have the technical acumen and tenure on Reddit to know to type in that subdomain. As always, relevant XKCD (posted today on Lemmy, funnily enough):
Agreed
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I use OldLander and old Reddit Redirect browser extensions
I found the Artemis app and it’s surprisingly close to Apollo and Voyager with Liquid Glass aesthetic and works just as well.
100%. For any fans of old out there whose Lemmy instance doesn’t support it, you can use https://o.opnxng.com/ as a proxy.
The enshittification continues.
until morale improves, right?
Not just of reddit but also for some reason Google (at least for me) often recommends <search term> reddit and ranks reddit posts quite highly, so this enshitifies google too.
Google’s demise due to socialmedia walled gardens was kind of understandable, but their decision to lean into Reddit and make themselves extra vulnerable to the whims of a corporation they don’t own, is entirely in them.
i think you have reddit and googles position reversed, reddit is pretty much dependant on google almost entirely, they put thier search bar on the top, allows reddit to use its v3 captch3 to catch “bots/ban” , and then thier sudden appearance of using AI to moderate the site.
When I search for something I often get suggestions for “search term” reddit.
Google have chosen to send people to reddit If reddit make those results unusable that a big fuck up.
Yeah i can’t see Google keep sending mobile users to reddit.
That dumbass app was enough reason why I’m here.
I’d say it’s responsible for at least 75% of us being here!
I’m pretty of the other 25% who came here because we got banned for saying something that offended someone’s feefees. I honestly couldn’t be happier.
RedReader still works and isn’t all that bad.
I will not install their app. Period.
I hope it ends up pushing more people here!
👋 hello it’s me
More people
Welcome!! :)
At the same time, I’m worried the community will worsen. I feel this is the only place left that feels like old internet.
It will get different, of course, with more people. But it won’t suffer the worst curse of Reddit and Digg: unaccountable, fascist corporate admins. If the admins hadn’t become politically captured ban-happy assholes, I’d still be there.
I hope not. New fear!
I think that people leaving Reddit will go to Bluesky, Instagram and Discord…
Like anywhere but on the fedi.
To be fair, I didn’t know anything about the fediverse until I got banned from Reddit. I had tried all the other platforms you listed but none had the interactions the same as Reddit. Too bad we can’t get more publicity somehow.
I deleted it a long time ago
Maybe its too on the nose to say so on Lemmy, but fuck Reddit right in the earhole. Their pearl-clutching, risk-averse, pro-corporate moderation-bot and tattle-tale system was the last straw.
You forgot to mention their being the cuckold of Israel, or perhaps the Gimp. Fuck Reddit better dead than Reddit is a username says on here.
There are still Lemmy users who go to reddit and reddit users who are exploring alternatives.
Onboarding onto Lemmy isn’t the best experience and a lot of existing redditors are already afraid of change and don’t want to learn a new thing.
I don’t know if there is a website dedicated to making it easier for folks to jump ship but I can say that the amount of content on Lemmy now is much higher than it was when I joined.
I just want 2009 - 2015 Reddit back, or a place that resembles it. It was just a pleasant time.
Ah yes, right around when Gislane Maxwell was a power user and mod on Reddit.
i heard she came back recently, but its uncofirmed.
I guess that would line up with her getting transferred to minimum security.
I don’t know if there is a website dedicated to making it easier for folks to jump ship
https://joinfediverse.wiki/Welcome_to_the_Fediverse_Quickstart_guide
i think alot of them go back because of the lack of content, and the federation, plus when an instance vanishes they likely go back in the end.
“These users are already familiar with Reddit and we’ve seen that the experience is much better for them in the app. The app offers a more personalized experience and users can more easily find communities that match their interests.”
Lmao. The personalization is exactly what I don’t want, so fuck off. Also, it’s pretty easy to circumvent. I’m sure there’s multiple ways, but I just go to old reddit.
“Here’s a bunch of lies. We are going to track the fuck out of your dumb ass.”
They’ll kill old Reddit eventually
And then the site will effectively die
I wouldn’t mind if they did it soon tbf. That way I would find other ways to pass the time at work
That sentiment reminds me of this:
I’m surprised they haven’t yet. I only go on reddit for specific TV show subreddits, but even that is mostly filled with people clearly hate watching the show.
Oh I love personalization. When I am the one doing it and not an algorithm doing what it “thinks” is better for me.
“I Like Money” ~Reddit’s shareholders
It’s pushing this user to not use them any more.
The best kind of death in cases like this is self inflicted.
Reddit is a shit hole.
You guys are still using reddit?
For porn, exclusively
This man gets it 👆
Yep
I have a bit of a following there for the stuff I create
Lemmy just doesn’t compare
I did too, until they ip banned me for using a vpn
Surely there are better sources? What kinda kinks you got? Lots of furry shit?
Yeah it’s actually pretty top notch for that across the board, kinks or otherwise.
They blocked NSFW content for users who aren’t logged in last I checked. Still the case? I refuse to test it by visiting their cancer site.
No idea. When I got booted, I deleted my account and haven’t been back other than random internet searches.
I have enough personal experiences I can draw on for rubbing one out. What was really good were the OF people dropping their enticers for people to sign up. They’re good at what they do, the porn is realistic.
Same, I sometime go to redgifs if the wife isn’t up to it, and the content there is quite good but you gotta dig for it in the niches. The front page is filled almost entirely with immediate full frontal dildo fucking with ahegao and I’m so fucking not into that.
I need buildup, some romance, some passion. Otherwise it’s boring.
Reality is important to me with it. This contrived created stuff you see with professional work, its just not real.
They’ve fucked the interface with redgifs for countries that require age verification
I’m verified, because I’m a content creator, but reddit doesn’t recognise it
They’ll probably fix it quickly given how heavily they rely on porn traffic
The T&A need to come this wayy
I use reddit to lurk in niche communities that have zero to no presence here.
To steal content so you don’t have to. ;)
Reddit needs to die like digg did
I hate reddit. They blocked all of my accounts for no reason. And they’re so vague explaining why, and when I tried to appeal, the whole site crashed. Literally joined Lemmy yesterday.
Welcome. Yeah Reddit is an evil forum. Blocked me too when I was doing an ANTI racist statement. Apparently the moderhater thought I was racist, block for life, appeal never helped. I think they cannot read properly.
I got permabanned for threatening violence bc I wished a missile strike on Putin. As if I was planning to do that.
16 year old reddit account. I got a 3 day suspension for “harassment” for telling the mods of a joe rogan sub that their sub is full of “losers”. I was completely censoring myself by being so soft in my critique. Evidently right wing snowflakes are big fans of cancel culture. Deleted the app & here I am!
Guess we are all here. I also had a 10+ year account and the last few months started getting bans for relatively tame views, most of them taken out of context and then I finally got perma banned.
Scrubbed and deleted all my comments with a Firefox extension and deleted my account. If many of us very active users do this, I believe it can make a dent in their content.
It already has. Half the useful answers on there are “removed by ShReddit”.
I need to learn more about what’s OK on federated platforms like lemmy, but Im interested in creating a mirror bot that clones all the posts on Reddit. Just a one-way mirror to help boost content depth. Maybe it would be best to create a dedicated lemmy server for that purpose.
That already exists, it’s called the “lemmit” bot, and it absolutely floods the ‘all’ timeline if you try sorting by latest. It’s an annoying pain.
– Frost
Thank you! That’s crazy man. Man i hate it so much, you can get banned for literally anything, with no solid reason and explanation. It really is evil. Built a niche news subreddit from the ground up and it was doing good, with about 100 members in 2-3 months. Lost it. I was moderating another bigger subreddit aswell, made it grow and better, all for nothing.
That’s very sad to hear. Good thing you can ventilate it here. Maybe one day there will be enough angry ex users and they’ll remove all bans.
I used Reddit since near it’s start, never banned until recently. Apparently saying that public officials who betray their country and the will of the people should be burned at the stake is me making threats. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
But if you had said that about antifa, you would have been fine.
Lol I quit reddit a couple of years ago when they did the API thing. Recently went on there cos I was googling some game stuff that led me there - and I found that the account that was logged in had been banned. I hadn’t commented or voted out even really been there for 2 years and somewhere in that time I earned a ban, somehow. Gotta laugh.
Same.
shrug Fuck that place.
Same here. They don’t want users. They just want bots.
Welcome, brother!
I used reddit for about 4 years. I couldn’t stand it anymore, the bots, the bans for no proper reason. A lot of people recommended Lemmy, but I was reluctant to start using it at first. Glad I finally made it here
Glad to have you. Honestly, I think the smaller community makes it better. Even if there is no unending firehose of memes and shitposts here. You can run out.
welcome my friend
Are you from a sanctioned country by any chance?
No, i’m from Sweden.
They hate anyone even remotely talking about committing political violence, for one.
I expect another migration from reddit to lemmy. I’m not saying we are going to explode, but expect some new people in the next few weeks.
September comes early
There’s not a lot of people here and I expect it to stay that way. I do not foresee the Fediverse growing that much, but I could be wrong.
too many people scattered on lemmy, piefed,etc. after .ee fell it got less people.
It’s all the same platform though, right,?
I’m on piefed, seems good!
i dont see a large migration like with last year, it was only due to them purging so many users. reddit realized that they PURGED way too much which would just make the bots obvious, and lower engagment, i think they step off the pedal a bit, but still shadowbanning people though. they just arnt doing straight up bans(which notifies the users)
Fuck u/spez
Welcome Reddit refugees! (Dumb assholes, bots and shills notwithstanding.)
That first part is notwithstanding a very high percentage of us!
I left when my last account got banned because I suggested a way for dealing with billionaires may or may not include removing their head from the rest of their body.
Next, they will stop allowing to register with random email without confirmation
Edit: jut found out they already did it lol. Then next step will be to require phone number for all new accounts
They used to not require email at all. Did that change?
A long time ago now, literally years and years ago.
So that’s at least four.
Yes. They have been turning more and more restrictive
Yeah they did that a while ago, I think they even block temp emails (unsuccessfully)
I haven’t been able to post to reddit in years now, because I refuse to browse it without a VPN, and while it still lets me in, any account that I make immediately gets shadowbanned as soon as I make a post or a comment.
I can’t tell if it’s because their bot filter is just terribly implemented, or because they don’t want me on their platform if I don’t surrender my public IP address.
I’m pretty sure they just use a “how many different accounts under the same public IP” type of logic, because even if I create an account on a 4G network (no VPN) and post, this happens. Cellular networks often use double NAT (unique internal/carrier IP, shared public IP) to avoid allocating a public IP to each mobile device.
I’ve given up a long time ago. My only exposure to reddit now is when a search results page links me to a post. The most helpful stuff is usually from a decade ago or earlier.
