I take back everything I said in my previous post because of this
Further erasing the source of truth so it can be rewritten by the highest bidder.
I want to downvote this so bad but I know that’s not the point of downvotes…
I too sometimes wish it would be possible to boo stuff that gets published in digital media. 🫨 Some stuff is just too triggering.
We need a post upvote/downvote for the quality of the post and media upvote/downvote to say how much we hate or love the content.
Reactions, like on Piefed. Pretty nifty.
you’re gonna use AI whether you like it or not … oh wait, I left google search long ago
Kagi. You?
Ddg
Is the 5$ monthly sub enough? Currently using the 100 query trial and I like the result but not sure about the value proposition
I did the 2 person one and it’s totally worth it.
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Welcome to the internet post-NetNeutrality
Is this a problem that net neutrality would have solved?
I’m pretty sure net neutrality was what prevented internet platforms/providers/protocols/etc. from artificially favoring some content over others, until it was repealed.
Net neutrality is more about the physical network, e.g. your ISP can’t make google requests go fast and bing ones go slow, or not count google requests against your data cap (if you have one)
Oh, I see. Thanks for the clarification.
It should still be reinstated though.
Hey another reason to stop using Google’s enshittified search engine.
It’s not even a search engine anymore. It’s just another stream of ad revenue for them. They’re an advertising company, NOT a search company.
Glad I stopped years ago. F—k big tech.
Yesterday, as the goog search-results-page was taking 4-5 seconds to generate the AI-guff at top, it made all the site-links unclickable until AI summary was done. 🚽
(Disclaimer: Was on a random PC)
NoAI.duckduckgo.com is even better
vanilla duckduck has embedded ai as well
Uh I thought that DuckDuckGo was an unpopular opinion
What doth thy mean
*dost thou
“doth thy” would be equivalent to “does your”
Louis Rossmann already talked about how if he generates his website content with ai, or post-processes it with ai, it scores #1 in results consistently, whereas THE SAME information written in a human way, scores down in the hundreds.
They already did it.
Anyone got a more burnt or withered version of this?
Any old photo of soot dust will do.
1 sec let me take a selfie
I honestly thought it was already doing this. Whenever I accidentally use Google on my phone, it gives me the ai result that I have to exit out of, before I can see the results list.
Maybe it wasn’t that way for desktop?
Either way, I am trying to avoid Google and microslop as much as I can. I’m slowly removing them from my life, piece my piece.
Email is my next challenge. I really hoped self-hosting it would be easier by now.
Change the default search engine to Duck Duck Go.
Tuta works. For email, it’s free, and encrypted, and outside the United states.
And if you try to use the AI search to actually find any actual websites or articles it will just hallucinate them. They kept telling us AI was the future of search, but we know they want it to be the future of information.
Its just that they can’t afford to not be. You leaving for another site is heresy with how much money they need to make on selling ads and you.
And the middle man has decided they have overheard enough of the conversation going both ways to just “know” what you are about to ask and what the answer should be.
This is the new market for them. Not being a search algorithm but being a magical information hoarder that can predict everything about their user and their brand partners.They want to be Madame Leota
I love that Google has convinced themselves they can be a massive advertisement company without the mechanism that got us to look at the ads.
They’ve got a whole lot more avenues to shove ads down people’s throats now than when they started, though.
Are there any plans to release an AI that’s not dogshit?
The problem isn’t that AI is dogshit. In fact there are many things that have been revolutionized because of AI. Our understanding of biology has catapulted forward decades because of new models.
The problem is marketing. Those few use cases, while truely amazing, are only useful for a few things. The marketing of AI is horrible, throwing it into every product whether it makes sense or not. Throwing more money at it when it doesn’t make sense in the vain hopes that will eventually make it profitable. Then manipulating the market so that alternatives to your bad product aren’t feasible.
These silicon valley narcissists need AI to be profitable more than AI can become profitable.
AlphaFold is not an LLM tho
I think homey is using a more expanded AI definition then the “Looks inside: It’s a LLM” one that is generally used today.
Perhaps. My issue is more with the muddy waters when it comes to “AI”. It might be because it’s near to my profession, and I frequently encounter a fervent, yet clueless enthusiasm. When that same lack of specificity is used to argue for what they don’t really understand either, for example:
The problem isn’t that AI is dogshit. In fact there are many things that have been revolutionized because of AI. Our understanding of biology has catapulted forward decades because of new models.
It does beg the question if they understand what they are talking about. “AI is dogshit”, is weird. Are we talking about LLMs here? They are great for a lot of things. They are pretty horrible at doing what most seem to think they are great at, but that’s perhaps a different matter.
Then there is the “Our understanding of biology has catapulted forward decades because of new models”. If we are generalizing “AI models” to include the ones that have contributed to biology, we end up with a definition of “AI” that becomes “model based computational solution optimization”.
Chatbots are a different type of AI entirely tho.
I agree with you. I’m working on a novel, and it’s been really helpful for preliminary editing advice, and bouncing ideas off of. Not perfect, but it’s better than no one. And I really don’t understand why it’s not marketed more as a collaborative assistant, rather than something that just does mediocre work for you.
I’m nearly done with book it suggested as research, and i don’t think it could have been a better subject. It’s a great pick for what I needed.
But compared to ChatGTP, Gemini is fucking retarded.
Or in other words, the problem is that AI is dogshit outside the very small range of tasks that it’s good at.
Yes.
They really know how to please their customers (the advertisers).
Actually, the advertisers lose too, this is just a way to get people to search more than once so advertisers dollars don’t go as far.
Doubt it, the AI will direct people directly to the advertisers.
That’s true, but only juuuuust enough to keep the advertisers paying. There is no incentive for a monopoly like Google to provide better service for their customers (their customers are the advertisers) than the bare minimum, since they have no meaningful competition.
Self-host SearXNG on your laptop/PC. Your only regret is that you’d wish you’d done this sooner. Both SearXNG and Docker have helpful setup pages that walk you through the process. https://docs.searxng.org/
I’ve been hosting searx(ng) for like a decade or more. Rarely does it not find what I’m looking for.
Me and my dad have been using DuckDuckGo for a while
Can you give me a top level description? Is this really a self hosted search engine?? Like how dependant is this on other indexes somewhere?
I should have been more accurate. It’s not a search engine per se. It’s a search aggregator. It doesn’t crawl the net, just uses other search engines
That’s still pretty damn cool. Got dang it… another project for the pile…
Thanks :)
