You should give power to people who care about you!

That only leaves the Green Party, though.

And yeah, we learned that lesson with Obama’s presidency. The man had a supermajority for a while and all he did was make fascism worse and health care more expensive.

So I shouldn’t vote for anyone. Got it.

Universally, people need keep politicians accountable, regardless of the party.

I read a comment from a dude deep in MAGA territoryand he said the rest of us simply don’t know how isolated they are news wise, everybody thinks the same and FOX et al play on TV and radio 24/7 in restaruants, bars, at work, at home, like they are surrounded by literally nothing but hard core propaganda.

I don’t live there, but I’m willing to believe that at face value. Shit, USA/CIA has known how effective political propaganda is since they cut their teeth in Central and South America (they did it in lots of other places too).

The sophistication of the modern propaganda apparatus would make Goebbels blush.

Did you watch the video?

Evangelical Christians looking at the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization decision: “Worth it!”

😡

USian here, and it’s as sad as it is scary. So many people like this lead a lazy passive existence where they put so little thought into their lives that they can be led to vote for Trump for over a decade and only today be surprised like this. And those are the “good” ones who are merely ignorant and self-centered, that aren’t just proud to be nazis.

Here on Lemmy we talk about problems like controlled opposition and implicit support of genocide on the other side of the world. But compared with the median american voter we are like those geologists in the meme about how experts in a field wildly over estimate the general public’s knowledge of their field. And I am NOT saying we Lemmings are policy experts – I’m saying the average schmuck is that far behind our internet “discourse” bullshit.

If half of you country is like these people, you’d better secede and leave them try to live their bigoted selfish lives at their fullest to see what happens.

I don’t disagree with you on them not having a grain of empathy, but seceding like this… won’t happen. This is more often than not a urban/rural divide, so my state which votes like this has two major metros that vote against this sort of thing, as well as a smaller college town. Flipside the neighboring state of Illinois is known for being blue and voted against Trump and his policies because Chicago has more control over the state while the farmlands are red.

California has a major right wing movement in entire segments of its state that is trying to secede from the state.

If we go into a civil war again, it won’t be like last time with a north vs south, it’s going to be a nationwide clusterfuck. Washington, Oregon, California is the closest to being able to pull off a splitting off from the country and it being a line.

I mean they did try and there was a whole war about. Problem was there were all forgiven in an attempt to " heal the country"

It’s not half of the country, it’s half of the people that voted, and there is heavy voter suppression to keep people from voting. But the problem is deeper than the people. The same number of idiots and the same number of selfish people are in every country. That is something people seriously need to understand. It doesn’t matter what country you’re in, these same kinds of assholes are next to you whether you’re aware of them or not.

So you might wonder why not every country has an administration as vile as Trump. The reason is systemic. Elections need to work in a way that doesn’t give an advantage to certain candidates. No corporate or shady political donations. No bribes. No gerrymandering. No conflicts of interest. Stuff like ranked choice voting would help as well. Also automatic voter registration with universal mail in voting. Nobody should have to make a registration appointment 5 months before an election just to get the right to vote in it. And yes, I’ve had friends that had to book their appointments that far in advance. And no waiting in line for 4 hours to vote. And yes, I’ve had to stand in line for that long outside in 35+C heat to vote. There must be enforced laws to protect the integrity of elections and to keep rich and powerful assholes from controlling their outcome. When politicians do corrupt things, there needs to be consequences. Trump should have been in prison long before the election. And as the US currently exists, only rich and powerful people that accept money from billionaires can get elected. A government should be made up of the people, not of the billionaires. When politicians are billionaires, they don’t represent us. At the same time, the media needs to be independent and free from the influence of billionaires as well. No single company should own most of the television and radio stations, TV channels, and streaming networks in a country. And nothing should be able to broadcast straight up propaganda with political motives and present it as news. And there needs to be a wealth tax to keep people from even becoming billionaires because wealth buys power and influence. If the goal is to keep the wealthy from having more influence than the working class, then there needs to be a cap on how wealthy someone can be. When these safeguards are removed, there is no country on the planet that won’t eventually end up in the exact same situation as the US is in right now.

Yup

No no he’ll vote for Vance who truly cares.

Humans are naturally tribalistic and it exists on all spectrums regardless how much you force ‘education’ down their throats.

Emotions, ego, bias, you name it, people just gravitate a certain way. A majority of Trump/Republican voters, I presume, are also acting on habit they’re forebearers set.

Leopards might need to call in the hyenas, lions, caracals, jackals and vultures to join in on the face eating.