Maybe this is the kick up the arse companies need to finally start using hCaptcha or even Anubis.
I hope so, but it could easily come the other way. “We are so used to/deeply integrated/in a close strategic partnership with Google therefore we rather lose 5 % of our customers that care about privacy and are a pain in the ass for our data-driven business.”
5% is huuuge overestimate. Maybe on a tech site or forum. On a regular website for the general public? Less than a rounding error. Remember, we are in a lemmy bubble
I know, it was largely exaggerated, but a smaller percentage makes the negative scenario drastically more realistic.
One can only hope. I know it likely won’t happen. But one has to have hope.
We’ve moved to Cloudflare’s turnstile and it’s significantly less obnoxious.
Fuck cloudflare in general though…
Unless you use a VPN and run any kind of script blocker like noscript or uBlock Origin’s medium or hard modes.
So fucking obnoxious.
Yup. I’ve had to add exceptions to my VPN for this reason. Mainly food/grocery delivery sites for some reason
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They do though. The point of captchas isn’t to block all bots, that’s never going to happen. They are there to block the low effort bot army that’s rampaging across the internet which is effectively a DDOS stack on smaller servers.
Big AI companies throw petabytes of Data into their models. Instead of crawling and saving it once, they just index each site worth using and scrap the data each time they train a model. As a server owner you either block the scrappers with a captcha or you blanked ban IP ranges that are known for scraping.
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Yes just like they all actively support the Firefox browser…
This is a national security issue. A major corporation should not be able effectively impose a security ceiling by banning more secure operating systems (like GrapheneOS) due to it not making them money. Governments should pass regulations requiring any devices that meet certain security standards and support hardware attestation to be accepted by hardware attestation schemes. This will not pose an undue burden on businesses because you can easily add something like GrapheneOS to your scheme (https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide), and even if it did, that doesn’t matter when national security is on the line.
Right now, it’s not as dire because you can still choose image or audio CAPTCHA, but I don’t know how long that will last, and getting the regulation out before the problem happens is better than after.
getting the regulation out before the problem happens is better than after
There’s this weird effect where preventing a disaster is often invisible, sometimes looks detrimental or a waste of time; but responding to a problem and solving it is visible and will get you acclaim. That creates a cynical incentive to let a problem become visible before combating it so as to avoid the Kassandra effect where nobody believes you until it happens.
The whole “regulation is bad” scheme was bought and paid for with billions of dollars spent a small number of people who could make tens of billions by conducting their business without concern for the damage (economic externalities) they do. Its a transparent history and obvious on its face.
And yet so many average people go online and parrot it back, drinking the coolaid and passing it along.
This look le ke illégal, I guess they will shutdown internet for a big par of the population. And they I’ll discover than internet traffic is less than 10% human.
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Recaptcha has been trash for years now. Like, it either doesn’t bock bots, or it blocks actual real people. Don’t use it. Use turnstile.
Monopoly or Duopoly. Either way, it’s gotta be taken down.
I’ve started the transition away from Google. Sucks because, sometimes, it was really convenient. But now, screw 'em.
Convenience is how they get you. I have also been telling people for years that security and convenience are opposite ends of the same line. The closer you are to one the farther you are from the other.
SecurityPrivacy. They are distinct concepts.For example, tokenised and biometrically authenticated transactions are more secure and more convenient than cash payments which are comparatively riskier, easier to forge, easier to steal etc.
However, this allows banks and payment providers to keep tabs on your transaction data, which cash does not.
Convenience and privacy are usually at opposite ends, security can come at either end depending on the medium.
Biometrics are not more secure, because you can be forced to give it against your will.
Fingerprint? They can force your finger onto the scanner.
Eye scan/Face Scan? They can put you in a headlock and hold the phone infront of you.
You cant be manhandled into typing a password.
Biometic security is convenience, not security.
It is more secure.
It’s much easier to steal cash than to force someone to unlock a device and make a payment, so yes it is more secure.
I didn’t say 100% unbeatable.
It’s much easier to steal cash than to force someone to unlock a device and make a payment, so yes it is more secure.
and with biometics, its not hard at all, you just force their finger onto the scanner/hold their camera infront of their face… and hell they probably dont even have to be alive to do it, and you’ve got full access to do everything on their phone. instead of stealing 5 bucks out of their wallet, you’ve now got access to any and all banking shit on their phone.
Ok mate, I disagree but accept I’m not gonna convince you
I mean, you are disagreeing with facts.
Cause not only is if factually real, it has factually happened,
FBI kinda screwed up the case against one of the Jan6ers by forcing them to unlock their phone by forcing their thumb onto their phone. . Granted, it was appealed and the court declared it a violation of 5th amendment (which is great in general, even if it unfortunately helps a Jan6er).
and there have been numerous other instances of police and authorities have done the same thing, it was not an uncommon practice before that court ruling… and to be honest, with how power abusive police are, its probably still not that uncommon.
So you can disagree all you want. but its happening every day. Biometrics are security theater, not actual security.
edit This isnt conservative media, downvoting doesnt make facts become unfacts, lol.
This is why the up/downvote systems are so toxic and ruin human interaction. It allows people to carve out their own imaginary realities/echochambers, by “punishing” things they don’t like and pushing them down, so they don’t have to see them anymore… And once you hit a critical mass, people just stop even reading and thinking and just join in on the group think with blind downvotes.
This gamification is ruining human social ability and creating people who don’t have the basic means of self control to deal with being wrong, or with contrary opinions, or anything.
Secure, convenient, private. Pick two.
Yep, which is also why paper ballots are still the de facto standard for democratic elections. Digital voting which is verifiable and yet anonymous is very difficult to get right, especially when it needs to be accessible enough for every citizen to understand.
Cash is only “less convenient” for the banks and businesses that would prefer to track you. A cashless society is a society fully stripped of privacy, a society where poor people are guaranteed to stay poor, and where only the rich can afford privacy and security.
That’s my point.
Regularly going to ATMs / banks is demonstrably less convenient for both consumers and businesses and safeguarding the cash presents a security risk, especially for small businesses.
But the alternative of digital payments comes at a huge cost to privacy.
I wasn’t contradicting you, I was agreeing with you.
same I only use google authenticator - for now…
Pretty sure that just implements HOTP/TOTP
You could replace it with FreeOTP
Or Aegis. It works perfectly for me.
I have heard good things about Aegis as well, although I went with Ente myself.
Easy to replace with FOSS.
People are so oblivious to this shit.
… OK, no, there’s a slow dawning that online privacy is important for many reasons, but it never seems to translate into action. Probably largely because there’s hardly any consumer alternatives. Employers have been renewing contracts with Big Tech for decades and can’t be arsed to even think about changing their behavior.
They’re still going to buy new surveillophones just to be able to log in again.
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Everyone needs to flood the web with fake reCAPTCHA QR codes that lead to something that looks malicious to the average person.
LOOKS malicious? Why not just BE malicious? That’s way more lucrative if we’re at that point.
Looking malicious just trains users that it’s probably ok to do X on sketchy sites…
Send them to lemonparty
This happens on Linux via Edge Suite.
They block my ability to use quite a few websites. I’ve tried changing my user agent amongst many other solutions but it never works. My IP is not blacklisted.
I GUESS YOU DIDNT WANT ME TO BUY ANYTHING ON YOUR GODDAMN SITE ANYWAY.
Quick question: If Google doesn’t want to own Android anymore, why don’t they make it public domain instead of trying everything to kill it?
Because they’d rather own the public
They want Android very much and all the data that goes with it.
They don’t want you to use Android in a way that doesn’t let them harvest your data.
This. It’s shocking how many people in tech circles still see Google as anything other than a data harvester for ads.
What makes you think they want to kill it? I think they regret choosing GPL software to base it on, and dgaf about the small segment of people who use forks, except to worry that one of them might take off with an OEM and regular people.
The robots were about to kill me and my entire family when I said “Look! A stop sign!”. They immediately recognized my superior intelligence and retreated. /s
It’s funny because my town just posted an article saying a bunch of people got scammed by fake ones already.
Is the recaptcha on Google search engine, apps, android os more than one? or is it strictly 3rd party websites?
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