• Geobloke@aussie.zone
    1·
    12 小时前

    I mean, it isn’t unusual. Alexander the great was apparently blonde or light brown with fair skin

    • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
      2·
      17 小时前

      He knows when you’ve been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake… 🎶

      Oh you better watch out, you better not cry, oh you better not pout, I’m telling you why! 🎵

  • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
    9·
    22 小时前

    It’s mental that people think Greeks were blonde haired with blue eyes, while Hispanics (and up until recently Italians and the Irish) didn’t even qualify as white.

    • Test_Tickles@lemmy.world
      4·
      21 小时前

      Look, a thousand or so years before that, god had realized that even if he personally impregnated some dark little middle eastern girl without her consent, the best he could hope for was a light skinned son with brown hair. It was so disappointing that he didn’t even notice when they tortured the boy to death. Heck, when the little fucker showed up all unexpected at gods front door, god was so surprised that he accidentally drove his soul back into the corpse and reanimated it. What a mess that was! That little brown haired zombie bastard running around scaring the hell out of people… lol.
      Anyway, fast forward a thousand years and god had realized that if he wanted to reset the color palette on the human race, he was going to go west a skosh and start with something a little lighter. That worked out pretty well at first but eventually turned into its own complete mess.

    • sus@programming.dev
      2·
      21 小时前

      Look the ancient rom- I mean greeks were bronze, that’s a totally different color from hispanic. Unfortunately bronze doesn’t exist anymore and all the scrolls were written in black and white so we can never verify this.

    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
      4·
      1 天前

      They just throw out the rationalization that Jesus appears to people in their own form or some shit. Nevermind he hasn’t appeared in a few thousand years.

      What I find incredibly racist and chauvinistic is that if you look for “what color was Jesus” a large chunk of the returns are “Was Jesus actually (black, brown, some other skin tone than white)?”

      These people start from the White Jesus and ask if a man from 2200 years ago living in the Middle East was some other color than white. Nah.

    • schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
      5·
      21 小时前

      Your picture is a few centuries after the Trojan War and from a different culture.

      I think the lesson is that cultures always adapt modern and local standards to cast into their historical tales. Beauty especially can change with time and place. You know all those round-faced women from the days of early film? It’s not that women got hotter over the century–those women were hot. Guys from the 1920 would probably think our hot women to be poorly-fed vagrant farm workers.

      Another data point: Mar-Al-Lago face. Hideous to us, but extremely attractive to the guillotine class.

      That said, the blonde, blue-eyed nordic beauty standard is perhaps the most durable beauty standard we have in the West; it absolutely dominated at least between 1950-2000, so it makes cultural sense to make Helen look like that.

      Edit: Another data point this Jewish guy from 30 CE Palestine:

  • TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org
    3·
    1 天前

    Trojans according to historians were probably closer related to Hittites than to Greeks. Meaning dark-brown to black hair and tanned skin.

  • magnetosphere@fedia.io
    58·
    2 天前

    I can’t help but wonder if this was posted by someone who didn’t care about history, and just wanted to compliment a woman they thought was remarkably beautiful.

  • terranoid@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    47·
    2 天前

    Some greeks supposedly were blond. They used the term xanthos, a term meaning golden, yellow, or light brown/auburn hair.

    The greeks of today aren’t necessarily representative of what the greeks back then looked like.