• Kaligalis@lemmy.world
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      Because it’s literally impossible to solve. The party which would do that would literally be guaranteed to lose the next election and the other party would then revert the decision. A massive part of the US population gets really pissed when you try to take their guns (or even just the possibility of them having guns in the future). Trying to actually restrict gun ownership is political suicide in the US.

      What could be done is solving the actual problem: Kids turning into psychopaths by being bullied over years until their mind breaks.

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        I’ll disagree with you. But I have no energy to engage in this specific topic. I recommend you to look outside and check how other people are solving this problem.

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    In 5 years we can automate school shootings and put real shooters out of a job.

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    So they just need to wear non-vented goggles and a filtered mask. Now they have easy targets who are blinded by the pepper spray to which they are immune.

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        Why? It’s incapacitated the potential targets. Let the drone shoot, the shooter need not worry if they are immune to it’s effects.

        Little Billy took a wrong turn, though. He slipped on the spray that settled on the ground. The ambient spray in the air has drifted into his eyes. Now he can’t see, doesn’t know which way to crawl. His panic and pain will be short lived, as the shooter no longer needs to aim, as his target is unable to flee.

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    Maybe it’s just my inner gamer talking, but isn’t the kid doing the school shooting just going to shoot down the drone for bonus points?

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    The US is such a backwards place.

    Guy 1: “Uhhh, too many people are shooting up schools with guns. What can we do about that?”

    Guy 2: “I know a guy who knows a guy who can make a drone that shoots pepperballs. We can also install bulletproof doors that lock from the inside and get some armed guards to patrol the kindergarden.”

    Guy 3: “What if we enact some reasonable gun laws?”

    Guy 1 and 2: “Ba-ha-ha-ha. Fuck off, commie. Jesus gave all’ya’all these guns. Why do you hate Jesus?”

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      Didn’t you read the article? Clearly they are…they had some self-control, and fitted the drones with less-lethals instead.

      You want them to strap it with an AR or something?

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      They’re not that easy to hit. I once invited someone to try hitting my camera drone with a 9mm and they couldn’t, despite all bluster and claims otherwise. it might have been easier inside a building.

      But, any rounds expended toward the drone are rounds not sent to children/staff. And an FPV drone to the face even without pepper spray can mess up someone’s aim.

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        1. The point is that the terrifying systemic problem of school shooters should be tackled at its root causes, not merely suppressing symptoms. It’s beyond absurd that schools in the US have become institutions of normalized violence.
        2. Going to another room and closing the door renders any drone “not very effective…” School shooters have nothing left to lose. These drones are an extremely expensive yet stupid way of defusing such people. From the article:

        The drones can remain airborne for about eight minutes on a single battery charge
        I know the US is plagued by obesity, but I’m pretty sure the average shooter can outrun a drone for more than 8 minutes inside a building. What a bad joke. This is simply about signing contract deals for weapons manufacturers because everything about this screams poor taste.
        However, not everyone is convinced the drones are the right approach.

        That includes Tony Montalto, whose 14-year-old daughter Gina Montalto was among the 17 people killed in the 2018 mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school in Parkland, Florida. He told WPTV: “These drones aren’t patrolling – they just pop up when needed. So that’s part of the problem. We need to focus on the prevention piece rather than the reaction piece.”

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          “Its not perfect, therefore no effort should be expended toward any possible harm reduction”

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            “Its not perfect, therefore no effort should be expended toward any possible harm reduction”
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            Non sequitur fallacy and then some. Not only didn’t I say “it’s not perfect”, I said it’s completely stupid such as what’s depicted in the illustration above. I also didn’t say “no effort should be expended”, in fact, my first sentence proves the contrary: most efforts should be concentrated on the root causes. And the last sentence quotes the article, symptomatic measures should be prevention, e.g., patrol. Money towards these drones can be spent far more wisely.

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                Wait until you find out drones are used for patrols too.

                Outside this makes total sense. Inside, not at all. And I say this as a quadcopter pilot myself.

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            This isn’t a case of perfect being the enemy of good. This is a case of the drones simply not being a good response.

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            This assumes that there is a potential for harm reduction in this proposal…which there is not.

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          I’ve a little DJI drone and an old Matrix drone, the matrix has four 800 watt motors spinning 15" blades. You’re welcome to try and stick your hand in that one to see if you can catch it.

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      Actually restricting guns for the plebs is impossible in the US. The right to bear arms is literally in the constitution. And when looking at the (pretty damn short, but it does exist) history, it makes perfect sense (even though it doesn’t actually work to keep the government honest and the feared British revenge war never happened).

      What would be possible even in the US would be making it less likely that the abundant guns (which just ain’t going away anytime soon) are used by people with serious mental problems - by reducing the likelihood of serious mental problems to happen.
      You need a village to raise a kid.

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        We also have the right to vote, but Trump wants to restrict that too. So…yes, it’s entirely possible in the US. No one has the political will so far to do it. Gun lobbies are too strong and money is above human life, especially our children’s.

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        even though it doesn’t actually work

        well that’s it

        and reducing mental health issues is great but does not contribute directly to the issue

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        ☝🏻 Modern NBC Honeywell filters aren’t cheap. I know, I looked into modifying a surplus skin tight Russian gas mask, first term Trump. If I survived a nuclear blast I’d still hope to be able to breathe was the point.

        Either way, it gets costly because once you open that filter, you better be ready to use it, kind of thing, meaning they start to degrade once you open one. So, it’s not the masks really that get ya, it’s the price of the filters.