Let there be no doubt, Trump is the symptom, not the problem. Vance is the President in Waiting (I predict he will be POTUS after the November elections), and he will be far worse then Trump ever could be. Trump is knee-jerk, Vance is cold and calculating.
But the good news is, based on the mud-slinging the Republican party is doing, they are really. really afraid they will lose the Senate AND the House in November, and they are trying to shore up support in America for their failed policies. They really, really need this trade deal, and Carney knows it. Unless they get a trade deal before November, the American political scene will look very, very different.
“Freudian slip”? Please. Try “Thiel Instruction”.
Yep, just trying to boil all of us from cold again for an invasion of FUCKING CANADA for chrissakes
Would love to see Vance get hit in the face with a greased up cast iron pan.
Fucker deserves the absolute worst. I feel sorry his wife having ever had to be penetrated by that couch fucking “did you even say thank you” fascist gum guzzling back door whore.
I feel even worse for his children that have to say “that’s my dad”.
Would love to see Vance get hit in the face with a greased up cast iron pan.
And I know just the black scottish cyclops to do it
KaBOOOOOM!
You obviously do not know a lot about American dynasties and family life. Take the Bush family,for instance.
Go fuck a couch Vance, you fascist shit stain.
But also Freudian Slips aren’t really a thing. It’s more like he was thinking about a state and was talking about Canada and it just shoved itself in there. Like what he does to couches.
That’s exactly what a Freudian slip is though; is his mind, Canada and State are close enough to mistake.
It has been awhile since I’ve taken psych, but essentially all of Freudian psychology is wrong.
IIRC in this case neither idea was related to each other. It’s related to the idea of a “two track mind”.
Unless of course he said it on purpose because he’s a couch fucking coward, which is entirely possible.
Except this wasn’t a “Freudian slip”, it was part of his script awkwardly presented, then passed off as a joke by a person who has no sense of humor and no comedic timing.
Holy fuck, what a fucking shit bag.
And you thought Trump was bad? This is the next POTUS.
That’s his middle name.
Freudian slip: oops I said what I really think. But wasn’t supposed to say.
Cold and calculating??
Not when it comes to furniture.
Couchsexual.
He wrote the book, literally, on how to achieve the White Elitist agenda.
Anyone can.
Vance isn’t cold and calculating haha I can’t tell if you’re serious.
He is cold - has no heart. Even the most simple animal can calculate, though you can’t get far with 1 and 1 and 1 and 1=2 (for Dragonlance fans)
Vance literally wrote the book on how the White Elitists would achieve their goal. Cold, calculating, and ruthless to boot. He knows exactly how he will orchestrate Trump.s demise and his ascension to power. He planned all of this out years ago.
Naw, he’s just Thiels plant, a sock puppet.
Which book was that?
And then Vanced stopped, leaned over the microphone and winked really hard at the camera.
/s
As hyperbolic as this is, I am concerned by how many Canadians dismiss this out of hand. I know many of you haven’t had to actually think about imperialism until quite recently, but how do you think the US got into such an advantageous position over the Canadian state? Did it not occur to you at all in these past decades that US ownership over so much Canadian businesses and resources, and the converse dependency Canada has on US finance and commodities constituted a power imbalance that could he weaponized? What about the fact that virtually all internet information platforms are moderated and surveilled by US corporations, or that the majority of hardware brands are American-owned?
They’re saying it in such a blunt way to correctly assert that the US can exercise that power imbalance to its benefit. Even if Carney’s diversification strategy works, we’re going to see a massive shift in the cost of living in Canada in the meantime, and it is already beyond tolerance for many of us. This is not good, and this is what people have warned against for decades since the neoliberal era began.
Edit: refer below for a description on what “neoliberalism” is, as I get the impression there’s many people here who may not understand what that term means and think that the word “liberal” is just some vague attack on the Liberal Party (which, make no mistake, they are neoliberals) or “progressives.”
The Avro Arrow was canceled by a Conservative government. Completely shoots down your neoliberal argument.
…neoliberal doesn’t mean, “Federal Liberal Party of Canada.” It is a set of politics that emerged in the late 20th century which rearticulates the classical liberal, “laissez-faire” rationalizations for massive wealth stratification and privatization of public works as an attack on the more welfare liberal policies and programs of the post-depression era. Reagan is the most famous advocate for this form of economic policy and is often (wrongly) credited for its formulation. It is characterized not by “small government” as many of its advocates say, but by the privatization of previously state-owned or operated programs and services. Canada’s “mixed” economy is a great example of this form of policy exactly because it follows the philosophy that public capital is more efficiently spent through private hands, or at the very least through the logics of capitalist efficiency. So, when you see Conservative and Liberal governments defunding say, education or medical in favour of privatized “efficiency,” that is an element in neoliberal politics. Or, when you consider that Carney’s “sovereignty” fund is essentially a funnel moving public wealth into privately owned fossil fuel and mining corporations. With that in mind, it means that even policies related to business are subject to the capitalist imperatives of profit maximization, infinite growth, and simply the private wealth interests of individual policy makers.
So, I’m not sure why the Avro Arrow project failed, but I know it was cancelled in 1959, roughly a decade and a half before the neoliberal era that I am describing. From what I recall, the second proposal during the Harper admin was cut due to to concerns over cost, which would potentially reflect neoliberal rhetoric, but I don’t know enough about aircraft design to speculate on whether that was a realistic estimate of it. But, the fact that Canada does supply its airforce with an assortment of privately owned companies for British-, Euro-, and American-made planes exemplifies how investment in those companies also creates an incentive for any investors in the admin to vote against a nationalized project.
Look up terms before you say shit like this or presume to know better than others when you clearly should be questioning how you understand these things.
Edit: Notice how they didnt comment under this one, but rather my response to a different commenter.
Avro failed because it was overtime, over budget and even if they did finish it, it was already out of date.
And then Eisenhower told Deifenbaker to shut it all down. The PC party always represents US interests in Canada. Mulroney then sold off Canadian assets and sucked Reagan harder than Nancy.
You have a hard time making comments without getting homophobic or misogynistic, is that in consideration of Canadian interests?
you seem entitled to police language on Lemmy based on your agenda.
That agenda of course being challenging bigotry at the bare minimum, but feeling like nobody can challenge you on bigotry is, of course, not “entitled.”
Maybe just stop saying bigoted shit dude.
The Avro Arrow is a bad example because it has nothing to do with neoliberal economics.
It was ostensibly about being over budget, but that was just the public claim at the time.
It was a high speed interceptor designed to chase down Russian bombers coming over the arctic circle. The Americans knew that ICBMs were the new threat and no interceptor could ever chase one down. They told Diefenbaker as much.
I had a professor that introduced his class to George Grant’s Lament for a Nation, which was a big wake up call to me in the 90s. So no, not dismissing this out of hand. https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/george-grant-lament-for-a-nation-1.7050666
I think you may have misunderstood my comment. I do not subscribe to Canadian nationalism, and I do not think that Canada should exist by merit of it being a genocidal, white supremacist enterprise fundamentally as a settler-colonial state. Grant would not agree with or even like me.
My criticism of Canada’s subordination to the US is out of concern for the harm this will cause to the most vulnerable among us, not the wellbeing of a self-perceived national identity or groups of people who materially benefit from this system. Canada is an extractive enterprise, its settlers have been subordinated under imperialism for its entire existence, but they have been complacent with that so long as they benefitted by being a white settler nation, and especially after being a white settler nation in the US metropole. The Canadian state has supported imperialistic US campaigns all over the world not because it is subordinated, but because it benefits from them.
Grant’s criticism of the PC and Liberal parties is honestly quite ignorant in reality, not even informed by the decolonial and anti-imperialist arguments of his time. It refused to interrogate why Canadian and US interests intersected, and instead resolved to construct some idealized, immaterial past where Canada somehow existed without global imperialism and liberal capitalism. Obviously, this is untrue, Canada has always been a liberal-capitalist state and its entire existence hinges on the continued genocide of indigenous peoples and extraction from the land they live on. He even saw the Agrarian Socialism of the CCF and how readily the state appropriated those policies into a capitalist economic framework, and still concluded that it was the bad actors of a vague, wealthy elite that threatened Canadian national identity and not that this system inevitably benefits capital and capital alone.
I’m not surprised to hear if someone finds his writing appealing in 2026, as we are in a particularly energized fascist moment now that liberal capitalism is meeting the material limitations of reality. White Canadians are having to contend with the negative consequences of participating in empire for the first time in their memory, and they’ve responded by attempting to salvage some ideal, more “pure” form of national identity that maintains those core values but pathologizes the “Americanness” of their imperialism in the same way he did. It’s disturbing, and I can guarantee many of them would not care about the genocides that would be required for that identity to exist.
No body cares what this gearbox thinks inside of the U.S. but Im sure his opinion is well regarded around the world though lol
This is the next POTUS. The roadmap for Vance is to depose Trump after the 2028 elections and Vance becomes POTUS without being elected.
If you know much of vance, you also know he is a monarchist.
He is also friends with curtis yarvin and blake masters and the right wing techofascist overlords who want to use us as biofuel.(jk guys, really! We were just kidding!)
Oh, and he is bought and paid for by peter thiel.
Yes. Vance is much much worse than trump.
Get fucked vance. Nobody likes you.
jfc why is this news
Because it was on the cycle for weeks at a time when Biden did it
If Vance or another MAGA favourite is elected to be POTUS, then I predict that the US goes the way of Israel.
Thiels mouthpiece gonna mouthpiece
It’s crazy that Iran has openly threatened the Trump administration with assassination and the Trump administration is openly threatening Canada, Cuba, Greenland, etc.
I saw an interview with some Iranian official who said “what’s the point of assassinating an American politician? You have no heroes”
TBF for the USA’s enemies Trump is the best thing to happen. The only question is do you eat popcorn or poke it with a stick?
Most of us have two hands, why not both
I’ll take a potato chip, and eat it!
