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FYI, it means “týden”, or week in Czech, not a ton. If any major countries except English-speaking ones adopted imperial units, the world would be like this. We would have “pc” meaning “palec” (inch) or 25.4 mm in Czech texts or parsec (3.09 × 10¹⁹ mm) in English texts.
Metric stays winning, signed “Very very tired american”
Except you can’t kill people nor highlight your need to compensate for something with a bike
$6000 custom bike, helmet, and full body suit on your commute
8.000€ racing bike
Allow me to introduce myself
Sub 10k bike not a dentist i recon ?
strap a giant dildo on the front with a metal spike inside to hold it up. two birds one stone.
Greg hates car culture!
(and so do i)
I’m anti bike because you don’t know how to fucking drive a bike.
Have been seen seeing a LOT of e-scooter and e-bikes around lately. The e-bikes are classified as power assisted bicycles so no license or insurance is required in most states.
Yeah, they’re popping up there, too, even though there are harsher regulations in place here
They can’t even stop you from biking for booze touring. Revoke your licence? Lol OK.
There are fines and it make it more difficult for you to get a driving license later depending on country.
In germany you can actually lose your drivers license for riding a bike drunk (iirc upwards of 1.5 promil)
Once that happened your free to go, but likely liable if you’re involved in an accident
In Virginia it’s the same but at or above 0.08% (0.8 promil). It’s also an automatic license suspension if you refuse to take a breath test.
But I don’t want a driving license. Also just looked it up and interestingly while it can be illegal its not like it is in a car. In a car there is a specific blood alcohol limit and that doesn’t exist for cycling. They need to show you are unfit to ride. So I guess if you are not swerving all over the place.
Then again, they would provably use the same test result if they did test you. I wonder if you can just refuse to provide a sample… Its illegal not to with a car, but unsure if that still applies with a bike.
The woke left want to take away your traditional transportation! Trains are our heritage and what made our country so great! Trains burn big beautiful clean coal, some say the cleanest.
Very interesting perspective.
Interesting, considering (motorized) public transit is not that old, and bikes are even newer (cca 80 and 20 years prior to the automobile, respectively, depending on location)
IIRC Paris had horse-drawn omnibuses back in the 1600’s, but then they were banned by the aristocracy.
I’m counting mass adoption in the specific country (US)
I think you missed the part where they are lying to the conservatives to get them on board with things that are actively good for them
I wouldn’t call it lying. The traditional means of transportation is walking, people have been doing it for thousands of years.
Unfortunately, conservatives are known to claim that things that have been happening for thousands of years are actually new
“Beware The GO-WOKE-GO-BROKE Walking Lobby©®™ Y’all! Theyre trying to tell us to start walking more like our ancestors did. Sometimes you can walk to a oublic transport spot! Or sometimes you dont AND THEN ITS FREE!? Wot?! And…wait…”
Reframing a topic in verbiage that’s amenable to your audience isn’t lying, it’s just not being a moron who knows how to talk to people.
I know people do that and while this reframing is not exactly a lie, it’s interesting it works even when they are lumping walking (Homo erectus) and buses, trains, trams and presumably bikes (all 19ᵗʰ century) while excluding cars (basically early 20ᵗʰ century)
If all transport was bikes, trains and trams - you most likely still can get everywhere by foot. If all transport was cars - not neccessarily; is what I think is the main thing that separates it from straight up deception
Is every tradition from before agriculture? “Traditional” doesn’t mean “from the time before homo sapiens.”
Yeah but public transit was a lot more affordable for most people for a long time. It was pretty recently that it became normal for most people to own a car.
now if only trains could have the same arguments made about them (eliminate the asinine requirement of photo id)
interested but skeptical.
Actually, bikes really are far left and a tool for liberty. They were especially significant in the US movements for feminism and women’s suffrage, as bicycles allowed women to scootle around on their own, where before they were restricted by access to horses and male escort. (Yes, I used the verb to scootle.)
Also bicycles encouraged women’s fashion to allow for pants, which were utilitarian for bicycling sooner than they were for equestrian riding.
(Bicycles also encouraged the paving of roads before automobiles dominated them.)
Many opponents to women’s suffrage (to women’s rights and women’s autonomy) also opposed bicycles. Including the Roman Catholic Church. The Holy See asserted that bicycles, especially tandem bikes, were an instrument of the devil.
So bikes are Satan-approved!
Some recent useful videos (on YouTube):
Rebecca Watson’s take after SoT Sean Duffy decided bike lanes are woke
The Bicycle Episode of Climate Town with help from Not Just BikesRiding the instrument of the devil! Fuck yeah!
Also this video by J. Draper about cycling and feminism
that is crazy
Another major bonus is the fact that it only takes about a weekend of study to learn how to maintain and repair 99% of bike parts. Also, far cheaper parts. And also free bonus exercise.
Another major bonus is that learning how to bike doesn’t bleed the wallet, while my talentless ass trying to learn to drive a car does.
free bonus exercise
Which allows you to enjoy even more freedom fries!
I like how you think brother
I usually look up how to maintain bits on my bike as they become necessary rather than all in one go. Same with buying tools for it.
First get a few cleaning bits. Then a few tools to split a chain and some quick links along with the tool to connect/disconnect quick links. Tools to fix an inner tube puncture. Disc brake bleeding kit and mineral oil.
Tempted to get a proper disc brake alignment tool, pretty cheap but last time I just cut a shim from a cider can and placed those either side of the rotor.
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like, imagine buying a new bike for $15K and having other cyclists laugh at you for being so cheap
This has never happened ever, not even once.
Tour de France-level bikes cost $15k. You quite literally cannot spend more.
Cyclists think it’s cool that I got mine from a co-op that fixes up old bikes. Yeah there are douchebags in cycling, like any other hobby. But you also got plenty of DIY punk types and folks who just enjoy their time on two wheels
Yep. In my experience, cyclists just love any bike. They’re all nice!
Yeah never heard anything like that, my bike was £600. Cheap bikes are the ones under £200. Once you are in the multiple thousands you are getting to pro athlete levels.
While my bike was 300 and I like to say that anything above 500 is too much; I do have acquaitance with a man with a 1500€ bike that has acquaintance with a person with a 30k€ bike Dx
Don’t know about too much, but more than necessary perhaps. Mine was £600, probably didn’t need to go that expensive but I use it a lot so its hardly a bad choice either.
Then again, got over £200 in accessories with just the ortlieb XL pannier bags. I cycle to work every day, so arguably its pretty easy to justify spending a fair bit. If I took the bus that would cost over £1k a year. So even that €1.5k bike is fairly easy to justify compared to bus prices if you want a decent bike.
I meant more in the sense of how much the price increase of bikes doesn’t match the quality increase proportionally. I’m very roughly estimating where biking instead of any motorisation is what I generally commend in any case, even the money save thanks to it aside
person with a 30k€ bike Dx
Unless it was a custom build or something from a luxury automotive brand, that seems unlikely.
It was either or one of those to, yes, I remember the conversation rather vaguely to be quite honest, the absurd price is what stuck the most to me
Disc brakes aren’t fancy any more, or insanely expensive – and they can be way easier to work on than truing a wheel perfectly to get your rim brakes working just right.
Maybe I’ve been lucky but only once did i need to get my brake lines bled. Otherwise, just replace the pads when they wear out, and the thing is self-adjusting.
Miss me with that electronic shifting though. We’re not airplanes. We don’t need fly by wire.
You don’t need any of that stuff though. That’s just for rich bike nerds. Tell those dorks to get stuffed while you save a few thousand dollars.
Electric shifting has pretty much 0 maintenance these days, there are no adjustments on the electric derailleurs that bolt on to the frame. Charging it once a month is mildly annoying though and I wish they put bigger density batteries in.
Is there a benefit over wire shifting?
Either that, or make it easier to just hook up whenever I park my bike, or some kind of alarm when it’s under 20% or something. Because what happens is that I grab my bike, leave home, shift three times, and then when i’m too far out, find that it’s actually empty.
My regular city bike has manual hub gears, which I have maintained once in 25 years, and they’re fine.
Broke: biking is unsafe
Woke: biking doesn’t require government issued privledge
Bespoke: Biking gives you a fat ass and chiseled calves
Yep, my wife loves that I’m a cyclist for that reason
I’m going to need a source on the fat ass part. I cycled for years when I was younger and I certainly have glutes of steel, but they’re not big. I do however find myself very much attracted to a big ass on the opposite sex so if that’s true in any way shape or form, I should start cycling to meet more women who cycle perhaps lol
My ass has fattened up since I started bike commuting is my only source, so grain of salt I suppose
ya something I dont get is why humanity is OK with this ‘opting in’ to getting rid of all other forms of transit JUST to sit in a car and get unhealthy and probably die quicker.
Our ancestors have been walking , running, or riding on animals or walking beside tired animals for thousands upon thousands of years…and …humanity has simply chosen to opt out of our ability to do so without examining the risks that this may pose?I feel that huanity has evolved to walk large distance or rather to expend energy when we go large distances (that includes biking and walking beside our tired animals) . So certainly humanity will be having to face some sort of ‘issue’ cause we have evolved to expend our energy when moving large distances rather than take an automobile , right?
Like humans didnt evolve to survive repeated harsh blows to the head and we see that humans who keep on getting hit in the head from war training, domestic violence, american foot ball , hocckey or soccer have higher rates of being diagnosed with ALS and CTE.
Humans also didnt evolve to live in such SUPER-individualiistic societies annd thats why so many people’s mental healths are failing them and we have increased deaths of despair . In fact the countries with the lowest population desnsities and with lower allocation of resources to mental health care have the highest suicide rates
Humans also didnt evolve to take in large amounts of junk food but then not do cardiovascular exercise at all. Thats why heart diseases are the leading killer of people globally.
There’s no ‘cost’ for us giving up walking? Certainly there muust be something. I guess increased severity and instances of heart diseases is one of those costs
I just don’t think children should be using them and I think anyone whose uses them should be wearing a helmet. I think law enforcement should ask people to dismount their escooter or ebike if they’re not wearing a helmet and issue warnings or citations. I’m not usually in favor of making rules and stuff but it’s just like, we got one thing to protect our skulls if we’re on things that can go 28mph which is fucking fast and requires time to slow down then, maybe making the helmet mandatory isn’t bad.
Lol what? Loads of kids cycle to school here and have done for longer than most people have had cars.
I meant the ebikes or ecycles but I guess times have changed. Back when I was a kid we didn’t have ebikes only the pedal bikes. Those aren’t any safer, I guess I’m just not with the times.
Yeah no one had an ebike when I went to school either. We all used pedal bikes.
E-bikes can go much faster, though. Kids on pedal bikes are inherently speed limited.
Are you talking about ebikes specifically or any kind of bikes?
There is more danger with ebikes. They’re heavier and they accelerate faster than conventional bikes. I’d be ok with restricting their availability for kids.
Helmets I’m more ambiguous on. They’re usually a good idea, but you could say the same for people walking or driving.
Always wear a helmet. Always. I’ve had more people die in my life because of no helmet or non safety approved helmet then any drugs or alcohol issues. Same with my high school class. At our 20 year anniversary most people died from accidents and some related to helmets
Helmets I’m more ambiguous on. They’re usually a good idea, but you could say the same for people walking or driving.
Yeah true but you’re not exposed to the environment going over 20mph in a car vs on a moped or motorcycle. Like if you’re riding a moped or a motorcycle, you should be wearing a helmet. You may not come out looking the same if you fall on your face but your odds of surviving without a brain injury are higher, than if you didn’t wear a helmet.
Then again, the only place on Earth where having a vending machine that’s hooked up to city water and a tank in a locked box that has a sterilizing agent and sprays helmets in a vending machine for blue bike users, would be Japan. - Someone take this idea.
Lastly: for anyone thinking what can happen if I hit my head off the pavement either from the back or front of the skull without a helmet (with MIPS are supposedly the safest),
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_and_contrecoup_injury
That’s an example of what could happen. Lessening the impact to have it so that your skull isn’t bouncing off the ground, can reduce the possibilities of this happening.
Yes, I meant ebikes.
Okay a funny, where I went to high school, a kid got pulled over for biking too fast. He was going like 20+, had nice road bike and strong legs, in a school zone. He didn’t get a ticket but it was funny.
Welcome to downtown Coolsville. Population? Him
I support fuckcars and njb in general but they really do be sounding like that
njb? sorry noobie here.
Yea, not just bikes
They mean well if they come off… Badly…
Not just bikes, I’m guessing.
And biking is good for your health
ya something I dont get is why humanity is OK with this ‘opting in’ to getting rid of all other forms of transit JUST to sit in a car and get unhealthy and probably die quicker.
Our ancestors have been walking , running, or riding on animals or walking beside tired animals for thousands upon thousands of years…and …humanity has simply chosen to opt out of our ability to do so without examining the risks that this may pose?I feel that huanity has evolved to walk large distance or rather to expend energy when we go large distances (that includes biking and walking beside our tired animals) . So certainly humanity will be having to face some sort of ‘issue’ cause we have evolved to expend our energy when moving large distances rather than take an automobile , right?
Like humans didnt evolve to survive repeated harsh blows to the head and we see that humans who keep on getting hit in the head from war training, or foot ball or hocckey or soccer have higher rates of being diagnosed with ALS and CTE.
Humans also didnt evolve to live in such SUPER-individualiistic societies annd thats why so many people’s mental healths are failing them and we have increased deaths of despair . In fact the countries with the lowest population desnsities and with lower allocation of resources to mental health care have the highest suicide rates
Humans also didnt evolve to take in large amounts of junk food but then not do cardiovascular exercise at all. Thats why heart diseases are the leading killer of people globally.
There’s no ‘cost’ for us giving up walking? Certainly there muust be something. I guess heart diseases is one of those costs
