Rocinante and the only reason I know is because of The Expanse.
One of my favorite fan theories is that the authors did not name the ship after the horse from don quixote directly. There is a Rush song called Cygnus X-1 that’s basically a space opera and the ship in that song is called the Rocinate, and one of the authors of The Expanse is a huge rush fan. So in my mind that is where the ships name comes from.
Wasn’t the expanse loosely based on a play by post RPG game the author was running? Maybe the name came from that? Isn’t that also why Shed was killed off, the player couldn’t play anymore.
I also learned it from Rush, hell yeah!
I love that the guys say something like “it means war horse”. Rocinante is a word play with “Rocin antes”. Rocin being an old weak horse unfit for serious work and. ‘antes’ is the spanish word for ‘before’.
So it translates to “Prenag”? I love it.
americans wrote it. it has to be ‘bad ass’.
americans can’t understand irony. too dumb.
I only know it because it’s the name of my best friends horse. He played the violin at our wedding
What a talented horse
I only know it because of Limbus Company XD
For me it’s because of One Piece
Shame! (bling)
I never made this connection but now I imagine this as Holden being self-aware / self-critical.
What about John Steinbeck? Travels with Charley.
For me it’s “An Animated Description of Mr. Maps” by The Books.
Rocinante
That’s one badass horse right there
It’s pronounced legitimate salvage
The guy from One Piece?
Well duh, it’s a book about Doflamingo after all.
I never read the book, and I knew this somehow
On pizza?
only remember the name because of The Expanse
But if you pronounce it like the show, every Spanish speaker has the right to whoop your ass just once
when i moved to austin and everyone was pronouncing guadalupe “guadaloop” and looking at me funny for pronouncing it guadalupe, i got murder eyes for like a month.
laughs in Baaathelona
Same experience with a really old German book. He wanted to know the color of the hat one of the side characters was wearing. I had no clue, after investing so much time into trying to understand it. That kinda made me give up - why try to participate when the outcome is the same as if I didn’t?
this entire thread is full of dumb takes but this is one of the dumbest
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because if one bad teacher ruined your entire education, you’re the idiot. likely a vastly emotionally immature one at that.
everyone has bad teachers dude. we also have good ones, and mediocre ones. smart and mature human beings… let it go. miserable stupid ones sit there and stew and are still angry 20 years later about that one embarrass moment… and also blame all their current ‘failures’ on it. ‘oh if only mr handface had not asked me that question in 10th grade English 20 years ago, i’d be a successful music producer!’ yeah… right.
but this is peak american entitlement. ‘one teacher was mean to me once and i hate school forever and ever’ like… i mean that’s who the american president is… so yeah peak american. we’re a culture of entitled whiny cunts who appreciate nothing an whine about everything and are so egotistical we can’t admit that maybe we were a bad student.
ironically… the teachers i liked best were the ones everyone else HATED. why… because they actaully wanted students to learn. The popular teachers people liked were the ‘fun’ ones who gave everyone As and never actually taught you anything… almost like children want their education to be junk food because it tastes better than broccoli.
You, uh, hold a lot of anger and hatred for someone trying to advise others how to “get over it”.
you call it ‘anger and hatred’
i call it ‘logic’ and ‘reality’. And all well-documented and observable things in the world.
But it’s ok, that’s why I liked the teachers people HATED. Because those teachers… focused on reality, hard work, and actually learing stuff. Not making people feel good about themselves.
And it’s true, I notice people who are entirely focused only on feeling good, seem to think I am a very hostile and angry person. And peopel who are more concerned about things other than just their own personal pleasure, don’t interpret me that way.
Almost as if folks are terrified of reality because it might make them feel bad about themselves…
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the reason our education system is so awful is our expectations of children are so low. Americans have bought into this narrative that children are ultra fragile and well that’s what we have made them. it’s not the teacher’s job to raise children, it’s the parents. the teachers job is to teach them.
other countries don’t treat their children this way, and shocker, their children are far more resilient and self-reliant. we teach our children to be helpless, and we end up with helpless adults who never mature. maturity is learning from your mistakes, not feeling forever defined by them.
the original comment was a dumbass being a dumbass and being butt-hurt over his own stupidity. it’s all bullshit anyway, nobody who actually reads don Quixote reads it in two days. it’s a 1000 page dense novel. maybe you OP read Harry Potter 5, which is also 1000 pages, but it is so shallow you can read the whole thing in like 3-5 hours.
I read the book about a year ago and I recently I was trying to remember the name of the horse for some reason. I also completely blanked on it, and it took me a few minutes.
I’m pretty terrible at remembering details like that. My brain just stores things relatively, like ‘the main character’s brother’, even after reading his name a hundred times.
Anon should have just told his teacher that the horse (rocinante) is nothing compared to Sancho’s she-ass.
I never remember the author’s name. I have consistently gotten it wrong in nearly every quiz. Lol
Everyone knows him as Cervantes, even though his full name is Miguel de Cervantes. I live in Castilla-La Mancha and everywhere is Quijote… I even know a lady called Dulcinea… not a common name btw.
Edit. Just read this and sorry might have come across overly pedantic. I just got up and my brain is still toast.
i remember it because of soulcalibur
Feel this in my bones. I enjoy reading books, but they go down the memory hole fast for me, especially names.
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finally, an honest bloke appears.
if you are like Anon it’s because you read too fast. slow the fuck down and maybe you’d remember relevant details.
For me, the problem with “Rocinante” is I don’t know how to pronounce it. So, while reading, I’d skip past it, recognizing that it’s the horse, but not parsing it as a word.
If asked that question, I’d need to explain that, but I’d stumble over the word.
If a book has too many oddly (to me) spelled names, I’ll skip it for this reason. Apostrophes in the middle and no vowels, and I’m not going to read your book.
For me, the problem with “Rocinante” is I don’t know how to pronounce it.
If you’re using a European language, you’re pronouncing it correctly, or close enough.
If your only contact with English is the written word, I guess it depends on what languages you’re familiar with. If you’re using AI / translation software, just ask it to read it to you. Maybe it’ll get it right. Or not. Who can tell with those things.
what’s it like being a stubborn dumbass?
Spanish is incredibly easy to pronounce though? There are only a couple things different than English and none of those differences are relevant for Rocinante. It’s also consistent in pronunciation, unlike English.
Anon should be disappointed in their teacher, honestly.
Wasn’t it a donkey? I think it was named Rocinante? Idk, I read it like 16 years ago.
Edit post-Wikipedia: it was a workhorse, not a donkey, but I nailed the name. I’ve wondered in the past if Geralt’s horse Roach in The Witcher was a nod to Rocinante
Kind of, maybe? But probably not.
In the original, Geralt’s horse’s name is “Płotka” - has technically the same meaning as Roach (a small, cheap kind of fish), but the term is also sometimes used for easy, inconsequential and irrelevant things.
Good to know! It’d be a cool reference, but I guess it wouldn’t really fit with Geralt’s character. He’s pretty far off from Don Quixote XD
I for some reason thought Don Quixote rode a donkey too… Where’d that come from?
I think his “squire” had one, so maybe they get conflated XD
Sancho Panza rode the donkey, Dapple. Though Don Quixote does “ride” the donkey a few times. Rocinante is his usual mount.
The names of the 3 musketeers regularly come up in crosswords and no matter how many times I see it I can’t remember one of the 4. There’s Porthos, Athos, and I believe D’Artagnan was the one who joined later. Doesn’t help that their names sound vaguely like the 3 fates: Atropos, Clotho, and Lachesis.
Aramis is the one you’re missing, and he’s also the one I always forget. I can remember porthos and athos because they sound similar, and d’artagnan was the name of the company my old job used for some supplies, but Aramis is too easy a name to forget.
Maybe both of you guys issue is that you think of Porthos first, Athos, Porthos, Aramis is burned in to my mind, never read any book about musketeers either and I am terrible with names
Tbh I don’t remember more than 2 character names per story. If a chapter contains more than two actors then I am totally confused who those persons were and their relationships and such…
Have fun with “War and Peace”. Sooo many characters and everyone is some kind of Count or Lord with partly similar family names. Many of them also have a Russian and a French name and switch between them depending on context. I listened to the whole thing as audiobook and it basically took me the whole first book (of 4) to get a vague understanding of the characters. Listening helped a little bit because the reader had a slightly different intonation depending on which character was speaking.
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Thats why I dont like Game of thrones
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horsey mchorseyton
Rocinante! Can’t believe I remembered that. That book is a hoot.
if you read don quixote in two days you’re a definitely a retard.
like going to France and ordering McDonalds.
fucking Americans.
Classy, I figure you can read the whole of Ulysses in total of 17 minutes?
Douche!
No dickwattles. 17 days. Reading should take time.
Idiots all over here being ‘hrr i cannon rememburrs the bookz i readz’ yeah, because you don’t actaully read, you just skim.
reading takes effort, and i understand most of you are unwilling to make an effort in anything other than calling shit fake and gay.
Anon feels like a dumbass because anon is a dumbass, and like every dumbass is butthurt someone pointed out how dumb they were. Rather than being like ‘hey maybe I should ahve paid attention to this book I read instead of being a retard’.
Sounds like a skill issue.
Technically, if you do that you’ll be doing the same as a lot of locals. People love their “Mac Do” (for some reason).
Immerse yourself in the local culture (and have a beer at the local Mc D, assuming that’s still a thing, I’m not really sure).
Again, american. French people eat there sometimes, doens’t mean they eat there all the time.
The point is americans go to another country to ‘expereince the culture’ and then systematically avoid doing so at all costs.
Just like anon tries to ‘read’ a 800 page novel by not actually reading it, and then gets called out by their teacher who knows anon is a tryhard who didn’t even know what the horse is called. sort of like saying you ran a marathon by running mile 1 and mile 25 and you road a car from mile 2 to mile 24. it’s totally the same thing as running 26 miles! right!
at least the lit teacher didn’t ask anon to blow him. if i’d been his teacher i would have, seen that anon is a useless idiot and that’s all he’d be good for in my class and i suppose the lit teacher only likes him because he’s pretty. maybe has a whole Death in Venice thing going for him.
fake: anon’s lit teacher liked him because he was a smarty
gay: anon’s teacher liked him because he was submissive dumb 'lil bitch
americans go to another country to ‘expereince the culture’
Eeeehhhh… More or less.
Anyway you can’t experience that much in the few days most US people have available. Remember that they have to go to London, Paris and possibly the Riviera, Rome, some place in Germany, and maybe two or three other places, all in the one or two weeks that they can spend in Europe before their boss requires their presence back behind their keyboard. It’s a vacation of sorts, but it’s also a game of tag.Faced with so many changing vistas, they are bound to give up and enter a Mc D at some point. You would do the same, except that when you go abroad, you can just stay somewhere for a month and actually see a country if you like (assuming you can afford to, but then, visiting Belgium is fine too). So anyway, what I mean is that you have to account for the culture shock, which exists for them, although I’m not sure visiting a foreign Mc D will attenuate that. Because they are probably way more foreign than they’ll likely expect.
No they don’t? What are you talking about?
That’s right, they don’t.
