• FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works
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    Apple seems really focused on preventing the audio from making it off the device.

    Which fine, I believe they’ll make that very difficult. Apple has engineering chops.

    But it’s not the fucking point. I ALSO don’t want every watchhole around me making transcriptions of anything I say within earshot of whoever wears one. Which will be way less noticeable than even smart glasses. Say goodbye to having an unrecorded conv in most public places.

    The whitewashing of the privacy probs with this is galling.

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      Once the technology is implemented and ubiquitous it would only take a secret government mandate and a gag order for the code to be altered to listen for particular words and phrases and log them

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        And its all closed source and propretieary. So no one would know.

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      I was reading up on that and how they plan on processing it in the Secure Enclave part of the watch. My only concern though is as you move more stuff into the enclave, the bigger the attack surface for the entire enclave becomes. And then at what point is more working being done in the enclave than the rest of the watch basically becoming a useless demarcation of security.

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      Apple seems really focused on preventing the audio from making it off the device.

      Huh? That tiny fucker uses AI to process the conversations itself?! How?

      Isn’t that going to drain the battery and heat up the thibg to high hells? I’m assuming it’s either that or the output will be crap.

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    Who wants a recap of their day?

    “You woke up at 7:22am!”
    “You played stardew valley in bed for 14 hours!”
    “You took minor chickie mcnuggie breaks twice today!”

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      I don’t remember what I had for breakfast, but that just means it’s irrelevant information. Fuck all of this constantly-plugged-in slop!

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      Exact same thought when I saw their presentation. Fucking unreal how many episodes are getting more and more real over last few years. Can’t wait for this stupid AI boom to die, it still won’t go anywhere but at least they would stop accelerating the planet’s death. Hopefully, maybe.

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      I’ve never seen anyone come up with anything even slightly useful for any smart watch.

      $500 bucks to learn that your heart rate goes up when you exercise and to start each day being told your sleep wasn’t perfect. Wow what awesome actionable information thanks

      Oh you paid a thousand bucks for the one with the built in altimeter that gives you the exact same information printed on the trail map? So cool, wow so we really did go up the mountain and then back down, who could have known. Oh my god it even remembers where we parked the car?

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        The main thing I use mine for is being able to check notifications without having to grab my phone. I already enjoy wearing a watch, so the time, date, temperature and any other bonus info I want can be there too.

        That’s about where it stops though. It should be a mostly passive device. I don’t think the design of fiddling with buttons and talking to it are reasonable. It should tell you information, not take it.

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          Hey if you simply enjoy it that’s awesome. My main problem is really just the marketing angle where people end up believing the watch has unlocked the ability for them to go for a walk around their neighborhood

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        It’s what got me my POTS diagnosis. No doctor would even listen to me unless I brought in my own data (60bpm lying, 80 sitting, 110 standing, 130 walking). Obviously I shouldn’t have to pay $500 just to do their job like that, but it changed my life for the better, personally. Now I have medications that help

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          That’s awesome, genuinely. I’m glad things worked out well in the end

          But did they require that information to come from a $500 smart watch? Simply heart rate monitors can be had for $20. For sitting/walking/standing you can check your own pulse for free in a few seconds with a timer or any clock that has a seconds display

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            They wanted the ECG recordings. Since it came in fancy PDF form it added some legitimacy. They didn’t care about anything I said at all, but being able to show actual evidence like that was a big deal. Just like, hey this is actually real, stop ignoring me.

            I dunno if other heart rate monitors would give the same level of data. It was also good for setting up an alarm when my heart rate goes above 190bpm (dangerous), but I don’t need it anymore because I know what that feels like now. I still keep it around just in case though.

            Mine’s probably a unique case though. But I also saw a study that 7 people around the entire world got diagnosed with atrial fibrillation from the watch’s warnings, which is a tiny number overall; but I wasn’t included in that study either so they probably missed others too.

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      No one does. That’s where we’re at in tech now. It’s never anything any consumer wants, but it’s always what the surveillance industry wants. A recap of my day is fucking useless. I was there, for fuck sake!

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      I’ve been wondering the same about all technology for the last 10 or more years now.

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    I have the perfect timepiece. It tells the time and that’s it. It syncs to atomic time so it’s always accurate and charges by solar so it’s never dead. It has no transmitter or audio capabilities.

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      Hey! Mine not only tells the time, but also the day of the week and month, and has an integrated alarm clock and stopwatch. Battery lasts for seven years, keeps time to within a few minutes per year, is cheap enough so that I don’t mind wearing it when I’m cycling as I can just replace it if I break it, and it has a celebrity endorsement. Of sorts, anyway.

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    Oh great, now we’re all going to have to buy voice modulators that interject some kind of patterned noise that scrambles audio recording. Just like those masks that interfere with video.

    The privacy arms race has begun.

    In a decade we’ll all be wearing privacy helmets.

    Wait, that sounds kind of cool actually.