big update, awful.systems is now a federated lemmy instance. let me know if anything looks broken! here’s what to expect:
- to pull up an awful.systems community on another instance, just paste that community’s URL into the other instance’s search bar
- federation with other lemmy instances should work, and probably kbin too? there’s no way I can find to pull in pre-federation posts on remote instances though, so send your friends here to read the backlogs
- we can’t federate with most of mastodon right now because lemmy doesn’t implement
authorized_fetch, which is a best practice setting for mastodon instances. if your instance doesn’t use it, try entering something like@sneerclub@awful.systemsinto your mastodon search; lemmy communities are represented to mastodon as users - this is pretty much an experimental thing so if we have to turn it off, I’ll send out another post
- reply to this post with ideas for moderation tools and instances you’d like to see blocked (and a reason why) and we’ll take action on anything that sounds like a good idea
federation was made possible by
- lemmy’s devs skipping their release process and not telling anyone 0.18.2 was released on friday? so we’re on 0.18.2 now
- updating all of the deployment cluster’s flake inputs just in case
- @dgerard@awful.systems shouting yolo
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Now that we’re federated, I’ve submitted c/sneerclub and c/techtakes to https://sub.rehab as the endorsed new homes for r/sneerclub and r/techtakes, confirmed by my mod posts in those subreddits. Hello to anyone here because of those!
“there’s no way I can find to pull in pre-federation posts on remote instances though”
Seems to be slowly syncing? I can see 5 posts in !servernews@awful.systems, some from 14-15 days ago.
Although I can’t see the comments/votes on them (yet?). Jank ahoy.
oh nice! I just figured it was impossible
also, welcome!
Happy to watch the wheels turn in an ongoing federating, and glad that sneerclub lives on.
I’ve got an error the first time I tried to load the community from the other side, and I’m not seeing any other replies, but I guess this works.
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Oooh nice Jank, sorry if causing issues by test subscribing to communities which are a tad too active for our instance. Tell me if unsubscribing would help.
it shouldn’t hurt! but uhh let me know if the site starts spinning and doesn’t stop, and I’ll keep monitoring on this end
I think I am encountering separate blessed Jank. Would It be that only posts (or even comments ?1?) that are “Undetermined” or “English” would be synched from a remote instance ? Or is the synch that janky ?
huh, it might be limiting languages because we have only Undetermined and English here (cause those are the two languages we speak, especially Undetermined, for the purpose of being able to mod posts). I’m not sure I like that lemmy has that limit in place though. I can toggle the language you’re looking for on if you let me know what it is
That would be French or Français ^^. If that is the behavior, can’t say that I am a fan either.
added French and Spanish in lieu of us getting better language support in lemmy (that doesn’t involve juggling 30 languages, one of which is Undetermined (which breaks the instance if you remove it))
let me know if that fixes things in federation; some of these settings need a lemmy server restart but none of the docs or UI say that, and it doesn’t happen automatically
Thanks, It seems to have helped.
i went to post just now and a pile of non-local communities were in the list, that might have been it
I pulled up the list of communties, selected “All”, and was presented with a total of 10 communities. Is this what I should be seeing? Or am I doing it wrong?
I’m guessing this has something to do with the fact that federation just started here, but I just wanted to make sure it’s not something on my end.
It seems people here have to manual add/subscribe to remote communities by entering the remote URL in the search bar, eg:
- https://lemmy.world/c/france = URL form
- !france@lemmy.world = Short form
Ah, the exclamation point was the part I was missing. I was trying
@community@addressbut that wasn’t getting me anywhere.lemmy’s strictness when it comes to stuff like this is a disaster. earlier I couldn’t tell if federation was broken or if I had the wrong magic in my search query
that’s as expected I think — lemmy most likely only pulls community data on demand instead of propagating it from one instance to another automatically. searching for another community by its full URL should (after a couple seconds) make our instance download that data, though I’m not sure if the data’s kept permanently if the remote community has no subscribers on our end
Hello from the Memmy iOS app. Seems to work fine!
Congrats! Greetings from the threadiverse!
Just wanted to mention that I’m seeing some divergence between the way local communities appear here on awful.systems and how they appear on other lemmy sites. For instance, on lemmy.world, here are the top 7 posts on sneerclub:
- Keira Haven’s Box of Rocks series
- “Here’s the deal,” the Urbit crew heard the No Agency guy say. “You give me back those twenty hats, I give you back your five thousand dollars, and I never fucking talk to you again.”
- a normal journalist meets the Urbit nerds, who repeatedly threaten her with the wrath of Thiel (2022)
- SneerClub Classic: Big Yud’s Mad Men Cosplay
- My friend with amnesia remembers the Basilik
- I will never get over how the pretty girl in the photo attached is LITERALLY Roko of the Basilisk’s example of the bad ending for humanity
- Birdsite thread comparing EA to a literal cult
Of these, only 3 are available (to me) on awful.systems. I don’t see any posts on sneerclub that have failed to show up on lemmy.world.
EDIT: Switching to “NEW” from “ACTIVE” caused the missing posts to show up. The “Active” setting seems to behave as a pretty strong filter on awful.systems, but it’s not as strong on lemmy.world.
EDIT #2: I take it back, even after switching to “New”, only some of the missing posts showed up.
in your settings, try toggling “show NSFW” off and on again
LOL, defeated by sneerclub’s very own rules. That fixed it. Thanks.
weird - i went to make a post and a zillion communities that aren’t on this server showed up. How does Lemmy work these out? People here posting to them or something?
huh, I can only see a few communities when I look at all…
from a prior attempt at making sure federation worked, it seems that dropdown gets populated with every community our instance knows about everywhere (with no sort or anything to surface local communities). I think unused communities are supposed to get trimmed by a scheduled process, but I never actually saw that happen
and remember: the jank is a feature ™
So! I have subscribed on awful.systems to !Buttcoin@kbin.social - and if I post here, the post shows up over there. But new posts over there don’t make their way here. Also, I see “subscription pending” at this end, but the kbin buttcoin mod doesn’t see anything at that end. I would have presumed that lemmy and kbin talked to each other OK, but then that’s like assuming computers work.
I think kbin is a bit slower than lemmy-to-lemmy communication
You can ignore the “subscription pending” message, for all intents and purposes you are subscribed. Consider it a UI quirk.
huh, I need to check back on it but I felt like the behavior we were seeing was severely broken:
- on prod, it stayed on subscription pending and after waiting quite a while, we didn’t see anything come from kbin into our instance
- on dev, subscribing succeeded right away (and showed joined after a UI refresh) and eventually it started receiving posts from kbin
looking through the logs around when you did this, I see the requests flowing to and from kbin.social but a frustrating lack of any errors – and lemmy just loves logging errors even during normal execution flow. I’ll dig into lemmy’s github issues today and see if anyone else has a trip report matching yours
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