Other way around. If your fantasy / sci-fi novel does not sell well, rebrand it as a new groundbreaking “history”. Include how it gets ridiculed by main stream science that does maliciously ignore all the evidence.
You have instantly gained a huge, uncritical customer and fan base.
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Silly L. Ron Hubbard, trying to convince people to follow in your footsteps again?
Battlefield earth is unironically good though
One of John Travolta’s greatest roles
Travolta should perform all his roles on a slant.
Seriously? I heard it was one of the worst movies of all time so I stayed away. Or was it because of the scientology? Like if I ignore that, is it pretty decent?
It’s a terrible movie. Verges on so bad it’s good. Uses more dutch angles than a crooked windmill.
Book was mediocre with a Mary Sue main that had Goodboy for a last name.
“verges on so bad it’s good” so to me that says that it’s about as bad as it can possibly get, before crossing the line into something I can laugh at, would that be an accurate representation?
Yeah, drunk or stoned with a group of SF nerds shit talking it would be a fun party, actually.
Ok, so it is watchable under the right conditions?
I never saw the movie, but I can accept mediocre for the book. I thought it was a fun take aliens and alternative history. The writing style is a bit like a morally superior american, but I can read past that (…I guess, because I completely forgot that part).
It’s been a long time since I read the book, but I remeber it being medicore late golden era. Hubbard had no understanding of radiation and his characters tended to be good or evil without a lot of nuance.
*Hubbard/Herbert
Lol this is exactly where my mind went after reading the op as well
I can actually read the map now! Appreciate it.
Uncensored both in that the actual censorship is removed but also that it hasn’t been compressed to shit so we can read and see the details.
Thanks!
I remember a game I played ~9 years ago where you could send ships to explore the world and when they got back you had the option to reject their findings. If you never rejected anything, the world would be exactly like Earth, but everytime you rejected it would randomize the section that had been explored and over time it would start generating a whole new world.
And you could even make the planet flat by rejecting the discovery of it being round.
That sounds interesting. Do you recall the name?
Found it in my history, it’s Neo Atlas 1469.
I reject your findings.
Adding to the requests for a name. I put your post into Gemini and it gave me a few choices, but all clearly wrong, before giving up and saying “it must be some obscure indie title”.
Tried again with the “deeper thinking” version. Reus by chance?
Neo Atlas 1469
Thanks!
I want to play this
That’s a super cool gameplay idea.
Oh my god that’s so cool I wish I’d thought of it. It’s similar to this idea I’ve been mulling over about a world where areas are fixed/dynamic based on how certain people are about them. But that is a better implementation than anything I sketched up.
Here’s an updated map. AFAIK, the author isn’t actually a flat earther, but made this to meme on all the conspiracy theories at once. And also for the love of worldbuilding.
And they also made and explanation post. It is unironically pretty good.
so Asgard and Atlantis are real after all
Don’t be ridiculous. They have a world-sized serpent, not an ice wall, which is completely illogical.
Conspiracy theorists don’t have the imagination to write fantasy literature. They can’t account for the inconsistencies in their theories and 99% of the time the reason they give for why a certain thing is the way it is amounts to: “the Jews did it”.
JKR can’t write a consistent world that makes sense either.
Well, she is a conspiracy theorist too. Mostly directed at trans people.
Yeah I remember loving all that conspiracy, X-Files, Umberto, past lives, lost cities, etc etc — all that stuff. But scratch at any of it and it’s always some of the dullest, unimaginative reactionary bullshit just a hair’s width below the surface.
Not to stereotype, but reminds of prison where everyone complains about capitalism without actually using that word (probably different now), but talk to them for more than 30 minutes annnnnd yup that’s antisemitism again. Fucking hell.
-reads up on new Flat Earth lore- …did…did a Flat Earth lore creator watch Attack on Titan recently…?
So basically Disc World?
My god…
…you know what Discworld x AoT would kind of be a banger. Might have to go see if someone ever wrote fanfiction about that (should I write fanfiction about that???)
Aot? And sure why not I read some of that. What I have read so far I enjoyed.
Brandon Sanderson is a Mormon and is a professor at BYU. I interpret his works as Mormon fanfiction.
He’s pretty good at worldbuilding, too. And so far his worlds are actual spherical planets.
This makes the end of The Wheel of Time make more sense.
Asking is good faith, been some years since i read wot. What part of morminism made it into those last books?
Dont get me wrong, what a lot of us see as “prudish” shows up in his writing, but ive only noticed it in his stuff, not the wot ending.
I was too busy crying when spoiler i dont how to black out matt saved the orphan kid whos now his family while the kid is crying in hell or its equivalent and matt is the first one to ever come back…
I was kidding. ;)
Mormonism and BYU need to be abolished.
Whats BYU? Also, dont get me wrong morminism like wow, how could anyone today believe it? But on the other hand, my main one, calling for the ablosihment of a religion is , uhhh, a little trumpey if you ask me.
Brigham Young University, a place so dedicated to education that they censor genitals in anatomy textbooks.
I’m not calling for the Mormon religion itself to be abolished, I’m calling for the organization itself to be abolished. The difference between Catholicism and the Catholic Church, let’s say.
Trumpy is a funny word though!
I should call her…
It’s turtles, all the way down.
Nah, just one turtle with 4 elephants on top, holding a flat world.
All hail Great A’Tuin.
Surprised nobody mentioned this earlier.
Hell yes! I totally use ley lines, contrails, and all sorts of crap in my DMing. It works crazy well and has so much documentation my job is easier.
Falling for conspiracy theories is a mental disorder. They’re failing to process information critically. They couldn’t write anything because writing requires skill, persistence, and consistency.
And writing, particularly editing, requires considering multiple possibilities and disregarding the bad ones.
I’d say education disorder, not mental disorder
Turned out, writing interesting compelling stories is hard actually. You need way more than an idea, especially if your idea is “what if true things, but the opposite”
i bet those books would suck tbh. the conspiracies they come up with for the most part aren’t even imaginative
if someone said “i just thought of a great idea for a fantasy world for a book im gonna write. you know how the earth is round? what if… it wasn’t?” you would just be like “why?” and none of these people have ever been able to answer that
What if the world was flat, like a disc. A discworld, so to say. And it is like this because the corner of the cosmos it floats through is just a bit more absurd than regular reality.
That’s a great way of saying this. I used to enjoy talking about this stuff and when people would question if I believed any of it I’d have to explain I just like thought experiments and writing syfy shorts.
Yeah! It’s like just considering these things is fun and enriching. You might let yourself get swept away in the fantasy a bit, but ultimately you’re telling yourself different stories.
So they only ever feel like stories, and not like, a whole to paradigm that you’re going to flash your BIOS with rofl. Just maybe run it in a sandbox/cgroup and see if anything actually fun or inspiring comes out.
Pardon the opaque metaphors.
