• Lucky_777@lemmy.world
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      100% this. This will be the hit list they want to go down. Pardon Maxwell, then say listen…here are the names (with no evidence but her word). Then they start making arrests. Probably 5 or less GOP members, the rest nobodies and Dems.

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        They won’t arrest anyone. If they do, everything about this whole process will be subpoenaed and plastered in public for all to see.

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            Precisely. They don’t need to arrest anyone for that crime because they can just lock people up whenever they want anyway. It’s interesting that you realized the law doesn’t matter but couldn’t apply it one step earlier in the process.

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          Plot twist: Trump issues a blanket pardon for Maxwell, and all the Democrats she names. Whether or not they actually did it, for precisely that reason. If they prosecuted them, then the government have to prove it’s case. But Trump can pardon anything for any reason, even shit he makes up.

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            That’ll piss off his base because he’s supposed to be the savior, not the swamp or something. They’ll release the “names” and then nothing will happen because, exactly like you said, then they don’t have to prove it.

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              He doesn’t need the base anymore. If he holds on to power past Jan 2029, he won’t need their votes to do it. He won’t need any votes at all.

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                Public opinion always matters. Even kings needed their people on their side; why do you think they made up all that divine right bullshit and had the churches preach it so much?

                Every country has the government that a sufficient number of people are willing to tolerate. Tyranny can only tip the scales, it cannot change the game. If a populace doesn’t want to be ruled, it cannot be ruled. That’s why fascism relies so heavily on the imposition of a hierarchy; because the people who aren’t at the bottom will support the system that gives them someone else to tread on, while the rich and the powerful live it up at the top. But you always need to keep a significant sector of the population on your side. There always has to be an in group who benefit enough from the government to want to keep it.

                Governments end when enough people want them to end. Democracy is just a way of doing it politely.

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      If they throw the MAGA base a Clinton they might forgive Trump for being a pedo.

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        Yes, but this might be mutually assured destruction when Clinton says hey fuck you and starts naming his own names

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    “Her lawyer said that the sit-downs this week were Maxwell’s first opportunity to answer questions about what happened.”

    I’m pretty sure that she was questioned by investigators during multiple investigations into Epstein over the years, including her own trial that sent her to jail.

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      Wait, what the hell is an “auto-mod” doing banning people? That’s not a reason but a method as well, flying in the face of the very point of lemmy’s mod log system.

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    It is very simple to predict how this regime will respond. Theyll release her list without trumps name and call it a day. Duh.

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      Close, they’ll release a doctored list with the names of his political opponents, have her nod in exchange for clemency, and the have ICE drag them away in unmarked vans.

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    “Donald J. Trump in no way knew about any of Jeffry’s illicit doings. In fact, he was a model, moral and honorable person - perhaps the most moral and honorable person in the history of the world, except for maybe Jesus. Jeffery used to come to me, tears in his eyes, and say I wish I could be as strong, powerful and moral as Donald. Any mention of him in any files were related to him going to church and praying.”

    -Ghislaine Maxwell

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    I mean yeah, duh. Anything is better than jail, especially when you belong there for trafficking minors. In the likely event she gets freed, I hope she’s harassed until the end of her worthless days.

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    sounds like we’ll get a release of the epstein files with one name missing. That seems strictly better than no epstein file release.

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      No, it sounds worse. What good is the testimony of a “witness/convict” that you threaten and bribe? It’s not, it’s nothing. Well, if you put it together with the Epstein Files, that might be something. Which is what we already knew.

      I think you knew it too, but maybe a few other readers didn’t.

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        well if you put it together with the epstein files, that might be something

        You do realize I was talking about the epstein files right? Seeing as I said “epstein file” in both sentences that I wrote.

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          Oh I see what you’re saying. You’re saying that you posted your comment in the wrong place and that you didn’t actually care about the article mentioned above. Okay, in that case we agree.

          Except even then we don’t agree. If the idea is that they are going to release the files without one name, that means they’re actually going to doctor the files, which makes them totally worthless.

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            Even if the list had no apparent omissions, how could you verify it wasn’t doctored? Generally, we don’t tend to consider redactions as the same thing as doctoring.

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                okay well, when one doctors something generally you’re trying to pass it off as though it’s unmodified. When you redact something, you’re being explicit that something is removed. Make sense?

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      Not right now, she didn’t. In reality who can say what was promised or implied.