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      Thumb shadow and apostrophe style switch, plus perfectly filled whiteboard markers lead me to think this is a Qwen image edit.

      They trained their model on text added to images, so it often pops above background stuff.

      Plus this is an uncommonly shaped whiteboard marker to get this rounded style, and there are no lift marks.

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      Also ironic is that none of the listed automations require machine learning and there’s been hard coded technology for them for a while.

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      There’s nowhere that the opera house and Harbor bridge line up like that without something else being in frame.

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        The ground and fence behind him look more like they match the Opera House surrounds than that side of Farm Cove.

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        It’s the lighting of the board more than the handwriting that looks fake, although that is very clean handwriting if real.

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          I think it might be real. I agree that the lighting makes it look fake, I thought so too. But after looking at the lettering there are slight imperfections in some letters that would make sense if written by a marker. But I’m not the best judge of these things, my initial thought was fake/ai as well.

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    People should have to work shitty service sector jobs so that I have someone to talk to. Because obviously I will never encounter other humans if they aren’t being forced to trade half their waking hours for money. What am I supposed to do, talk to people who aren’t being forced to put up with me if they don’t want to lose their income?

    The “AI” being pushed on us now is trash, but if we do eventually get to the point of being able to automate away the vast majority of jobs, we ought to use that to free people from the need to work. Give us UBI, make robots do the shit that you wouldn’t do for free, and let us all have free time to do the things we actually want to do.

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      So here’s the thing… In between the land of “shitty service jobs” and the land of “fully automated luxury” lies the vast desert of “reverse-centaurs”.

      Right now, when “AI” takes over 60% of a job, that remaining 40% becomes a brutal dehumanizing gauntlet: the “human-in-the-loop” becomes a peripheral for the computer, manipulated into working at the speed that the computer prefers, like Lucy in the chocolate factory, until they’re used up and replaced. Think Amazon warehouse pickers or drivers.

      Part of the problem is that this exploitation is hidden from consumers. When we see a fellow laborer suffering horrible conditions in a public-facing service job, we’re much more likely to throw a fit than when they’re hidden behind a sleek UI.

      With no guarantee that we’ll ever make it through to the other side of the desert, I’d be perfectly content to stay on this side of it.

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        I am not saying that we will necessarily go down the road to fully automated luxury, or that if we do that the journey there would go smoothly. The current “AI” bubble is an unsustainable mess which is causing a lot more problems than it solves. In the long term, we are looking at the development of incredibly powerful and dangerous technologies that can potentially reshape society.

        I mainly just wanted to highlight the weird, shortsighted reasoning behind this post. The argument that we need to keep cashiers so that we have a human connection feels a lot like arguments for going back to an agrarian lifestyle. It’s a losing argument that requires glossing over a lot of downsides and ignoring much better alternatives.

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        Ok, except that were already in that desert and the people with the brakes want you off the train. AI and automation are happening. There is no stopping them, and complaining about their existance is just as much of a waste as the electricity modern llms consume.

        Its not an option. Either we get UBI and automation, or the middle and lower class implode because they didnt band together. Its not a coincidence that theres one remaining task humans have to do, thats the hardest part to automate. But its absurd to think it cant be automated, as humans are able to do it. If a human can do it, a machine can be programmed to do it better. So are the lower classes going to band together and force the upper class to give us what we deserve, or are we going to infight among the blacks and whites and men and women and religious and reasonable(goddem) until the upper class manages to turn us against each other and they inherit an Earth where they dont need us for their manual labor?

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      THANK YOU SO FKIN MUCH.

      AI is a new means of production. Our goal must be to sieze it, use it to improve the lives of all and improve its capabilities. Our goal should NOT be to fight the means of production itself.

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        Cute, rollplay “seizing the mean of production” all you want, it’s not going to happen.

        Ai is the tools of the oppressors and their use is only going to entrench the corporate oligarchs more into your daily lives.

        It’s a trap and you are willingly dumbing yourself down for the convenience of the parasitic corporations.

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        Midwit take. AI doesn’t produce anything but homogenous slop. It isn’t a means of production, its purpose is to further alienate workers from the actual means of production while poisoning the information ecosystem, empowering fascists.

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      In a neoliberal society, having some human cashiers for the lonely people to have a natter to about their aches and grandkids while they ring up their groceries is as much human contact as one can ask for. This isn’t Communist 1970s Sweden, where the government employed social workers whose job was to check in on lonely old people.

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      I think in the socialist utopia where everyone does only what they want to do, there would be shopkeepers. I’ve volunteered at a food bank, and I quite enjoyed it. I don’t think anyone would spend their life a shopkeeper. I think people would wander in, do it for a few months, and then move on.

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        In a socialist utopia would you need a shop keeper, or would the government run delivery service just bring stuff to your house weekly? I’m thinking back to my youth when the milkman (or woman) would drive their electric truck to each house and drop off milk, cream and orange juice every morning.

        Then the sparrows or tits would come and Peck holes in the top of the cream and gobble the good stuff off the top.

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      You’re dreaming if you think UBI will exist without millions of people starving to death first.

      Ai is murder. Those who support it have blood on their hands.

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      we ought to use that to free people from the need to work. Give us UBI

      I share these sentiments, but that’s never going to be how these technologies are employed. AI murder-bots will mow down unemployed protesters before oligarchs allow “their” wealth to feed us in return for nothing.

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      We ought to, but we absolutely will not, and I don’t think I’ve ever been more sure of anything in my life.

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    This picture being generated aside, do people just call all automation “AI” now because they can’t tell the difference?

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      Yes? Anything electronic is AI. Just like electricity used to be basically magic to people.

      Human kind loves to blame things they don’t understand for 10x longer than it would take to learn about it.

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        Electricity is basically magic. It only seems mundane because we take it for granted. If sorcery, the force, investiture, or any other fictional magic system you could think of were real, we’d harness it, get used to it, and stop thinking of them as magic too.

        Dont let familiarity diminish the sense of wonder. Understanding doesn’t make electricity less magical, it just makes you a wizard.

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    I like self checkouts, I like not having to talk to people. Just easier on my very autistic brain.

    Still should be plenty of regular checkout lanes too.

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      I hate self checkout, I like being able to space out and find it stressful doing the whole song and dance.

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      yeah I would love a life without human conection…but thats just me and I have mental issues lol

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        We should definitely change our whole society because a minority have not been socialized properly.

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          I’m old. I was socialized properly, I just don’t like to spend my low energy arguing with people like you because we are different. If people were nice to each other it wouldn’t take so much energy. I prefer machines

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            We are not different, that is just an excuse. I have grandkids already for Christ sake.

            We should not be encouraging social disconnection in our society and become dependent on machines.

            I get it, they are more convenient for YOU. But at what cost to everyone else?

            Like I was saying, just because we have a bunch of people who have not been socialized doesn’t mean we should be encouraging it with technology.

            You say you are old, but you personalize like a teenager still.

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      When self checkout started, it was too dumb. It would panic if you breathed on the scale wrong, frequently double-scan items or just have weird bugs.

      Then for a minute, it was perfect. They smoothed out the UX, and everything Just Worked™.

      Now self checkout is too smart. The camera sees me grab multiple items to scan back-to-back, or sees my kid playing with the bag carousel, and it sets off a shoplifting alarm that the employee has to come over and clear 2-3 times per trip.

      So I’ve caught myself adjusting my behavior, like the Amazon drivers that get penalized for singing while they drive because the face-tracking throws an alarm.

      If it were just me, I probably wouldn’t think much of it. But then I wonder: Is my daughter going to have to adjust her hands, her posture, her facial expressions… to be acceptable to an ever-present AI observer, for the rest of her life?

      That seems to be where we’re headed.

      What happens to the misbehavers?

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    Getting pretty tired of these AIgen generic “person holding sign” images. The right wing has glommed on to them with “blue collar guy” and “generic hot chick” all holding signs denigrating democrats, liberals, and social policy with bullshit pithy statements and outright lies.

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      Yeah whenever I see them I think what story are they trying to tell? Are we supposed to believe that this man decided, right, I want to post something online about $TOPIC, so I’ll get my whiteboard, write my post on that, go to the harbour, get someone to take a photo of me holding it up, and then I’ll upload that photo online so people can see what I think?

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      His fingers look unnaturally long. Unless the white board is new, there are no signs of previous smudges. White boards are smooth surfaces, so we should also see reflections in there. The bridge as — pointed out in the thread — looks super wonky. There should be taller buildings as well as seen in the image below.

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    Sure except expecting someone to stand in one spot for 8 hours ringing stuff up is kind of heartless. Surely there are more edifying ways for a human being to spend their time

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      That would be true if by utilizing the staffing cuts, they increased wages or lowered costs but instead they just pocket the profits.

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      stand in one spot for 8 hours ringing stuff up is kind of heartless.

      It is heartless because there is no need for the standing.

      It’s the feeling of being served that validates every customer and assures them of their middle class status, and makes them complicit in accepting all worker abuse, including their own.

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      That’s the same as any work cell job. Stamping press: load heavy part, hit your two buttons, take part out and stack it, repeat 8 hours.

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    Don’t worry. We’re working on AI powered humanoid robots that will replace natural human connection.

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      I don’t go to the supermarket for human connection, I go to get a product. But when getting said product I 100% prefer the human connection of a cashier than a machine, I don’t even care if it’s slightly slower.

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        I am so awkward and clumsy at self checkout that I absolutely need the human interaction with a cashier, and I am faster that way. By far. The thought of not having cashiers is giving me anxiety

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    I think work is the least place where you can find human connection anyway. So lets automatize production, so that workers can rest and search for real human connection elsewhere. Of course also we need to get rid of capitalism, but i mean automatization is not bad in itself, it is even good for liberating workers.