• DylanMc6 [any, any]@lemmy.ml
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    yoko ono’s a very misunderstood artist - i really like her art, as well as ‘mind train’ and ‘hirake’ from her fly album, and i also like her warbling, as heard in ‘fly’. seriously!

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    Man the number of people who shit on Yoko while adoring Laurie Anderson really do not understand performance art. It’s not necessarily meant to be “normally” musical. That’s not the intention.

    But whatever; people have their own tastes and that’s 100% cool. I don’t actually enjoy a lot of her stuff either, even if I can appreciate what she was trying to do.

    Moreover, if you are fan of John’s consider this: when he met Yoko he was a full on misogynist big time with blatantly capitalist aspirations. She turned that all around, stuck with him through his “lost weekend” and two rounds of herion addiction. Yes, this is not about her as an artist, but if we consider her as a person she was/is important.

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      Sometimes, even performance art can suck. It doesn’t all have to be “appreciated” or “misunderstood”. It can just be what it is- hot garbage.

      Not everyone is an artist just because they want to be.

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            I’m an installation artist. Most recently I’ve built large pens and fenced in some fields to fill with livestock. I then raise and sell said livestock. It’s a take on how capitalism reduces all of us to the sum of our parts. No one really connects with the message of it though so I have to get by on what I can get for the meat.

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              Cool! I do that too! The exact same thing! Never learned how, just decided that I’m an installation artist and I’m going to tell everyone that this is what I do and they’ll all defend me against anyone that tries to say otherwise because its art!

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                No, that can’t be! First you have to go to installation artist school and get approval from the other learned installation artists and then they will give you an installation artist license and with that you can finally call yourself an installation artist and call other people installation art posers.

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                  Nope. No school required, no skill required, I’m an installation artist just like you!

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      TIL: B-52s because of the hairdos that looked like airplane nose cones. Fred Schneider said it.

      They were so hot in 1979. Even the studio album. Can’t imagine having seem them live.

      Unfortunately I just cannot listen to or watch Yoko Ono, and her reminiscing with Kate Pierson in what I assume are the 90s is just sad.

      edit: I’m not “disparaging” Ono. Sheesh. And the interview makes me sad for Kate Pierson just as much.

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        You don’t get it because you probably are not an artist yourself. Maybe humble yourself and accept it from the artists rather than be “sad”. Am sure there is plenty which you know about more than they do.

        I don’t get Miles Davis’ Bitch’s Brew or Captain Beefheart’s Trout Mask but am not going to disparage them. Musicians more advanced than me say it is awesome so I merely respect that. I don’t have to listen to the albums every afternoon until I get it

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          I’m an artist. Been one for forty years, both studio/session and stage- And Yoko is a hot mess. It’s not art just because it’s a performance. And it’s not good just because you hang a “misunderstood” sign on it.

          It’s “art” for snobs that want to appear cultured and elite. It’s skill-less performance for an audience that can know better.

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              Tf is a “norny”?

              And for the record, Led Zeppelin was inspired by American blues and I absolutely love them!

              I fucking HATE blues music of ANY nationality. Should I hate Led Zeppelin??

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                Norny is the person you were defending. Can’t be bothered typing their full username.

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                  I’m not defending anyone. Maybe stop looking at nuanced discussion as a competition sport?