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    3 months ago

    Dear Europeans, recognise what you have before you let some insane populist convince you that you don’t need the EU.

    Over the channel, we’re economically 8% down from where we would have been if we hadn’t left, there’s no money for anything and we’ve lost a chunk of consumer protection, a lot of data protection and our supreme court seem to be busily dismantling our equalities legislation, despite all that supposedly wonderful parliamentary sovereignty we were told we would regain. It’s all fucked up. Don’t do it. The EU is flawed, but you so very much want to keep in it, trust me.

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      2 months ago

      there’s no money for anything

      There is, but there’s no political will to spend it where it’s needed. The government’s spending limits are self imposed.

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      Don’t worry, here in germany we also don’t have money for anything, and costs for public healthcare are rising again soon, and other social services receive cuts as well. Our infrastructure is shit, digitization barely exists, rents are rising faster than wages, gasoline and Diesel are expensive, and our chancellor tells us we are lazy pieces of shit who don’t work enough whereas in the very same moment companies are doing mass layoffs. The economy as a whole is stagnating and hasn’t experienced meaningful boosts since pre-covid. Our education system is basically the same as it was in Prussia. We have a massive lack of teachers and school buildings are crumbling. And the uncontrolled mass migration makes literally everything I just listed a lot worse.

      So don’t worry, you can be in the EU and still everything sucks.

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    3 months ago

    Whatever differences they may have, at least Europeans can rally around their true common interest: not being Americans. 🇪🇺 🥰

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      3 months ago

      the car, the dog, perhaps their football club, their partner, kebab prices, gasoline prices and then maybe their country.

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      2 months ago

      LOL true. But you can hardly blame Eastern Europeans. It is also the area with the most support for a united EU army.

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        Came here to say this, lowest attachment in countries that pay in the most, highest attachment in countries that receive the most.

        It’s not perfect, some German areas around the Rhine seem to have a high attachment, as well as Luxemburg, but there is an undeniable pattern.

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          2 months ago

          Not really, Germany is a much larger net contributor than France, yet European identification is a bit stronger. Also Bulgaria vs Romania etc. The correlation you are proclaiming is actually not that strong.

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      2 months ago

      The little text on the image mentions “the survey was only held in EU countries”, the big text on the image doesn’t care.

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    3 months ago

    Something about this comparison stinks. I don’t know what it is, but it’s statistics with an agenda. Something is implied and I don’t like it.

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      Indeed. There’s a bunch of downvoted comments at the bottom that explain it and get downvoted because of what you described.

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    3 months ago

    Of course Åland feels most “regional attachment”, they even have their own flag and ccTLD…

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    Ireland would probably be “region” if it was more fine-grained, nobody is attached to their 30-year old EU NUTS2 demographic division, they’re attached to their counties.

    Or at least Cork would be.

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        Our identities is more important than power.

        Sure we need some power to protect them but it’s pointless to gain power by throwing them away.

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        I wouldn’t have that expectation if I were you. Based on how both our comments got downvoted I suspect the beautiful Lemmings on here still live with a “no! I don’t accept, we’re better than this”

        Yet once you go to those (especially orange) areas and you see how flamingly openly full racist and white nationalist those people have become in the last 10 20 years, it becomes harder to think of a culturally aligned Europe.

        People forget this post WWII near 90 year on continuous peace time was extraordinarily exceptional and not how Europe typically fares through a century.

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          Yes the non racist viewpoint is that minorities should be assimilated aligned to a European culturr.

          Where European means something Germanic with perhaps a splash of French. That will show white nationalism.

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    3 months ago

    I am pretty sure that attachment data in some places is split like 40% Europe / 50% country but this map doesn’t show this nuance.