• FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world
    94·
    20 days ago

    Never thought about this before but in what way is she a punk if she isn’t rebelling against at least one thing?

    • kboos1@lemmy.world
      16·
      20 days ago

      Yeah it’s a dumb meme. 1 & 3 are clearly claiming false persecution for sympathy, because the way you present yourself is the way you wish to be perceived and obviously gaslighting. 2 is hard racism.

      It only works to poke fun at the irony of a stupid premise because only one of these things is a real issue.

      • fushuan@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        9·
        20 days ago

        1 is the only one that doesn’t make sense.

        3 though… I want to be perceived as someone with fantasy coloured hair, you are right. Why are you making the equivalence of crazy colours -> attention seeking person?

        That’s what the image is denouncing, and you are criticising the 3rd image, so that’s the equivalence that you are supporting with your comment.

        • kboos1@lemmy.world
          3·
          19 days ago

          Out of curiosity, because I wish to understand your reasoning. What you’re saying that even though they wish to dye their hair in unique bright fantasy colors that they wish to remain anonymous and inconspicuous in public. Logically that seems like the opposite. If I also like having unique colored hair then I should ignore that we have something in common and not draw attention to it?

          Please take no offense, I genuinely want to know your reasoning.

          • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            3·
            19 days ago

            I think you might be confusing a few things?

            It’s not that it’s done for no attention whatsoever, it’s that the phrase “they’re just doing this for attention” is a way that people dismiss each other, and ironically, over-fixate on people who just want to pay for their groceries and leave, you know?

            By being fashionable in socially unapproved ways, people will assume you’re being vain as a euphemism for their relative disgust, and vanity loses you a lot of social capital—aura, basically. They’ll rather think of you as prissy than serious.

            But you can comment on a person’s hair if you like it, same as you would a band t-shirt for a group you both like.

  • candyman337@piefed.caEnglish
    66·
    20 days ago

    The commodification and commercialization of punk culture is a tragedy. BY DEFINITION if you’re punk you are rebelling, it’s not just a clothing style.

  • WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today
    8·
    20 days ago

    This is the third moth post I’ve seen in under 24hrs. Is it moth month or something? What did I miss?

  • DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip
    5·
    20 days ago

    Wouldn’t dyeing your hair a color that stands out and immediately gets noticed be for attention?

    I mean, its like saying peacocks have their feathers like that not to get attention. Or colorful birds do it to not be noticed. It doesn’t really make sense.

    Maybe like, just want attention on my hair and not the rest of every part of my personality? Idk its weird though because every single thing we do to our outward appearance is for the attention of others around us whether sexually socially or whatever.

    I’m a dude so maybe a little different but if I dyed my hair bright blue or pink then you can bet on it getting attention. And when asked whey I did and I’d say “oh man I didn’t want anyone to notice!” People would rightfully call me out on that being bullshit.

    Its ok to want the attention of fellow humans around you as long as you aren’t manipulative about it. But to do it and seek it out and then act like its bothersome you are getting attention for it is strange behavior.

    • pivot_root@lemmy.world
      11·
      20 days ago

      Idk its weird though because every single thing we do to our outward appearance is for the attention of others around us whether sexually socially or whatever.

      This is where the disconnect is for you.

      People can want to alter their appearance for their own reasons that have nothing to do with socialization. Sometimes it’s just because they want to treat themselves, try something new, or just feel good about how they look.

      • Danquebec@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        18 days ago

        While I think that caring about how you look is not the same as “attention seeking”, I think that “feeling good about you look” is still related to socialization.

        If we didn’t care whatsoever about others, we wouldn’t have any reason to care about how we look. It doesn’t have to be consciously thought like “if I do that, I’ll be more attractive to the other sex” or “if I wear this, my tribe will recognize me like one of theirs”. But feeling good about your appearance is still, in a roundabout way, about socialization, I think.

        When I look in the mirror and see myself with my long hair (as a man), my metal band shirt and a wristband with norse symbols, I feel great about myself. But I think it’s not random coincidence that I happen to be really into metal.

    • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world
      4·
      20 days ago

      Wouldn’t dyeing your hair a color that stands out and immediately gets noticed be for attention?

      As a kid I thought about dyeing my hair one day because hair-dyeing and gay culture were big, and i definitely wouldn’t have been doing it “for attention” - rather just to see how it looks, and in case it looks better than my natural hair colour.

      I don’t think people like looking better for the sake of more attention, but rather to be perceived better when they do get noticed, which hopefully continues to happen at the same rate.

      People tend to think in terms of “how will my current social circle respond to this change”

      I mean, its like saying peacocks have their feathers like that not to get attention. Or colorful birds do it to not be noticed. It doesn’t really make sense.

      They have their feathers like thst because they’re born with it. Because of natural selection. Humans make cosmetic changes which are not related to genetics.

      This can help with getting “naturally selected,” but people also present themselves for work reasons, status signalling, signalling role specialisation, religious belief or other philosophy, fandom (which i’d ssy falls into philosophy or religion).

      So the last 3 of those - roles, religion, fandom - might in some way help to stand out to mates seeking those traits or beliefs, but aren’t primarily for that.

      The former 3 are more about integrating and socialising with others, not about attracting mates.

    • Jankatarch@lemmy.world
      4·
      19 days ago

      I know a muslim woman who fully covers her hair with hijab in public and still colors a few select strands red if that introduces any new perspectives.

    • calcopiritus@lemmy.world
      3·
      20 days ago

      Yes. Dying your hair crazy colors will get you attention. But it doesn’t mean that you dyed your hair because you wanted attention.

      If my dog goes too far away, I will shout its name very loud so it hears me and comes back to me.

      Doing this will inevitably draw the attention of most of the people around me. But that was not my intention though, I just wanted the attention of my dog. The attention of the other people is just an unavoidable side effect. It may even be an unwanted side effect.

    • gray@lemmy.ml
      2·
      20 days ago

      Besides humans not being peacocks, I think there’s a philosophical difference between being genetically programmed to get attention and actually consciously desiring attention. And wanting to look a certain way is not the same as wanting attention at any given moment from whoever.

  • thethrilloftime69@feddit.onlineEnglish
    5·
    19 days ago

    Capitalism is so good at absorbing all critiques of itself into itself. Punk is rebellion. Turning punk into a fashion trend got rid of all it’s teeth.

  • Etterra@discuss.onlineEnglish
    5·
    19 days ago

    I think that kid in the bottom left has bypassed the number of useless belts that are acceptable to wear without looking silly.

      • Etterra@discuss.onlineEnglish
        1·
        18 days ago

        I was there dude, in my twenties, and it was dumb then too lol. At least hang a sword from one of those damn things, at least then you’d be vaguely interesting.

  • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
    3·
    19 days ago

    Ahh yes LAMP… Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP. The software bundle that every high school kid installs when embarking on their journey to web development. I doubt its as popular as it used to be back in them days. WAMP particularly made it easy to get a website going. Sure does bring me back.