What are they afraid he’ll do?
- Gut government services
- Weaken the US military and international relations
- Torpedo the economy
- Empower the rich and fascists
- Implement a national religion
- Murder women who get abortions
- Cover for pedos
- Remove protections for the young, elderly, disabled, and minorities
- Allow the poisoning and pillaging of the land
- Gut education
- Encourage a surveillance state
Oh, wait that’s MAGA-GOP project 25 shit
Secularism funneling the way to identity and materialist cultism is going to be a talking point amongst historians. I’m calling it.
People couldn’t fathom many different historical events happening before until they did, in which case, we have to hope the next generation learns well to stop the loopholes.
oh, the good old religion. it is a good thing that it was never focused on brainwashing people so it could accumulate money in order to gain political power, so they could keep brainwashing people and keep accumulating money… oh, wait, that is exactly what it did!
yeah, your life is shitty now, but don’t worry, it will all get better in the eternal afterlife!
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Troll who is going after whoever he considers “commies”. Not worth anyone’s time.
So you’re not gonna confront my claims?
Why would anyone bother? You already admitted to being a troll elsewhere! It’s a waste of time to argue with someone who is arguing in bad faith.
I see a lot of conservative breitbart esque coverage of the rental properties but I’m not interested in hearing their perspective. I heard him say he’s a capitalist, which was a little better in context but still not great.
I downvoted you because it seems like your actual issue is his progressive policies, and not the capitalism. Don’t be an opp
There should be a (heavy) penalty for public figures just saying this kind of made up crap about other people.
I’m a huge advocate for being able to speak your mind pretty much without any caveats, however objectionable your opinion is, but slander has nothing to do with free speech. This is a hill i’ll die on.
They make it a “free speach” thing like false accusations are covered under that law.
I can’t go around lying to police about how “my neighbor tried to kill me.” Ruining their life for fun or profit has consequences, and rightfully so.
But for some reason, public figures go around talking about how “all trans people are pedophiles” and “immigrants are eating our cats and dogs.”
It does ruin many lives too through deportation, bullying, gossip, and even just small stuff like reducing likelyhood of fucking getting hired at a job.
But also same figures and journalists, in spite of the victim testimonies and released files, can NOT call a certain someone pedophile without losing their job because “they didn’t say allagedly.”
It’s like the application of laws and even their morals themselves bend around to unprotect minorities.
I can’t go around lying to police about how “my neighbor tried to kill me.” Ruining their life for fun or profit has consequences, and rightfully so. lemmy.blahaj.zone I mean, you can do that though. And it would cost your neighbor a significant amount of money to fight it.
And if you’re white (and wealthy, and a republican politician), then you get away with it every time.
I believe it falls under libel, but that’s up to the person being defamed to pursue.
Slander is spoken, libel is written. Might be a little blurred in the age of video and podcasts though. Anyway, slander and libel cases are famously hard to win, because you have to prove the statement was made, the person who made it knew it was false, and that it damaged your reputation. It’s also harder to win for public figures, as the increase in general media around them tends to dilute damaging statements.
I ment it more in the sense that public figures should just straight up be held to a higher standard than Joe Schmoe when it comes to these things.
the person who made it knew it was false
Someone in this position should just be expected to know better and if otherswise be expected to prove these kinds of claims.
Just like I feel they are supposed to divest when they enter public office and be barred from investing in anything while holding any kind of position of power instead of becoming obscenely wealthy in this period of “public service”.
But don’t worry, i’m fully aware these things are all naive pipe dreams in this system.
Usually it isn’t really legally separate anymore and is just defamation regardless of how you do it
Proving that Tommy Tuberville knew, or knows, anything would be pretty much impossible.
Yeah. Dude is a certified bigoted ignorant jackass. The check on guys like him is supposed to be the voting public, but I’ve seen what makes maga cheer… Part of the reason why I think a democracy where voting rights are "equal’ will never produce an effective government.
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I’m pretty sure if there’s a country that invented Islamophobia it’s either the Papal States or somewhere in central Europe and did it before people were aware that there were two clusters of continents on different hemispheres.
America absolutely got really in on it, but at our founding we were generally ok with Islam. But yes we were built on genocide and slavery.
I read that dudes comment and thought the same thing. Pretty sure the Crusades got the good ole USA beat by hundreds of years in the realm of islamophobia.
But also yeah the islamophobia is the USA is obnoxious and loud. As a white dude, I hate and get annoyed by all of that bullshit and the fact that when I’m travelling down south everyone assumes I’m a racist white guy and says dumb shit to me.
Yeah I really don’t want to discount our country’s real problems, but I also don’t want to lend credence to the idea that it was founded as a Christian nation or that it’s always been wholly evil in every way.
Also I don’t want Europeans to brush off the islamophobia that they have as well. We all need to do better in this area.
Defamation laws exist
TBF, Tommy Tuberville is Olympic-level caliber at saying things that make him look stupid.
And unfortunately he’s the likely next governor of Alabama…
The ability to tell stupid lies and not be stopped is a display of dominance. It’s showing that you have no control over these people to make them tell the truth or do anything else that you want them to do, because they are in control and not you.
Whining about him doing it while letting him do it simply reinforces that point; he still gets to do what he wants, we still get to listen to him do it, and that’s not changing any time soon.
You jest, but within 5 days after he gets into senate, our government will be using public schools to teach children arabic numerals! /s
At this rate, I’m unsure if numbers will be too woke for school…
The wokest number of all…1488!!!
Wait til they learn that algebra is an Arabic invention.
Those old american politicians. Their last recourse for anything is “They’re not white and they don’t think like me!”.
Then it is up to us pasty white folks who hate fascists and racists; to show that "hey, you might be the same shade of skin colour as me, but your personality and politics are if a shade of bullshit I detest. Tommy Tubervulle is a mongerel
Yep, I for one am glad that someone smart and with good politics won the senate primary and that it’s even better to have him be Egyptian American, considering that’s a group that faces discrimination and deserves representation.
John Adams told one of our earliest friendly nations (Morocco) that our country is just as much for Muslims as it is for Christians, and while I may have a lot of disagreements with the founding fathers I think they nailed that one on the head
Tommy Tuberville is such a made up sounding name.
tuber is a thing you find from the ground, like a potato.
Timmy Potato-Town
Sounds like the Keen Dreams version of Mortimer McMire.
If only we were so lucky.
in my country if a politician posted something like that, would be sued for defamation and will 100% lose in court.
Are Senators exempt from laws in the US? Given how easily this can be disproved why hasn’t he been sued to the point of bankruptcy?
There hasn’t been a time in my life, and I’m not young anymore, that American conservatism hasn’t been a racist movement.
The most racist element of that movement are at the end of their lives and the racist GOP know that. Unless they can cheat their way into total control, this is their last big push. That’s why they aren’t hiding it anymore.
I feel this in my entire body: I sincerely, deeply hope you are right.
They call him a radical Islamist because of his ethnicity alone?
Or did he do something incriminating?Well, in Tommy Tuberville’s case, it’s probably because he doesn’t know the applicable slur.
He isn’t in the Epstein Files. That’s how you know he is the enemy.
They seem mostly focused on his name which tells me that it’s not anything he did.
Can you sue this motherfucker for defamation?
Yes but it will be dismissed with prejudice unless you have a tort. Probably, the politician will.
They’ve spent decades conditioning the dumbest among us to respond like dogs to Arabic sounding names.
Sadly, it’s worked.
Comparing Tuberville to almost anyone with a pulse makes Tuberville look stupid. Even John Kennedy seems smart compared to him.
I can see America being destroyed under republican rule
No, no. Haven’t you heard? They are Making America Great Again.
/s in case that wasn’t obvious.
They’re working on it.
It’d be the one good thing they ever did.
The fact that you need to research that information about him to prove it, but don’t need to research the allegations against him says a lot
