1Password faced immediate backlash from customers this week over a $300,000 pledge in support of a Linux distro created by David Heinemeier Hansson, who has regularly published overtly racist blog posts that include comments calling for deportation of ethnic minorities in Europe. The popular password manager is now a “distinguished corporate patron” of Omacom, the nonprofit foundation that oversees a popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.

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    of Omacom, the nonprofit foundation that oversees a popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.

    popular?! According to whom?

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      From Omarchy’s site:

      malleable OS for the age of agents. Where you can vibe your way through every alteration, tweak, and desire. Be the Omarch and command your agent!

      Wtf

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      Cachyos will forever be the ideal Arch distro for nerds who want the benefits of Arch without the hassle of Arch (until they support some giant racist or soemthing)

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    As bad as the “Nazi bar” problem seems to be in FOSS at the moment, it is definitely heartening to consistently see how immediate and overwhelming the pushback has been. I think it says a lot about the community, and it’s a good thing.

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      https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity

      • 12 mo: #21
      • 6 mo: #19
      • 3 mo: #16
      • 1 mo: #12

      Obviously growing in popularity. That’s what aggressive marketing usually gets you.

      If you don’t like that, perhaps consider stop talking about it, and him. Instead, every second week somebody writes an article about “DHH is fascist”. What the fuck do they think the effect of those articles is?

      Are people actually so dumb that they think accusing him of fascism will make him disappear? That’s like high-octane clickbait fuel.

      Same with Trump et alia. It’s garmonbozia.

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        The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics are a light-hearted way of measuring interest in Linux distributions and other free operating systems among the visitors of this website. They correlate neither to usage nor to quality and should not be used to measure the market share of distributions. They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch was accessed each day, nothing more.

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        I don’t write any articles on him or his dot file collection. The reach of Lemmy comments is close to zero and even more so among the red pilled who know the truth.

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    Why does this shit distro deserve all this funding and support? There’s many better options doing a lot more for the ecosystem yet this gets the attention. It’s don’t understand.

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      It uses AI to fix issues and errors. And billionaires need people to use AI as much as possible.

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        to fix issues and errors

        and create more issues and errors, like executing USB device names as root.

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          Per @GreenBeard@lemmy.ca’s comment

          I think we all know why. Whether having money causes racism, or it just so happens that racists are the ones with the money and they’re good at keeping it “In The Family” so to speak is kind of tangential and academic. It’s the hateful bigots that have the cash to fund big things, so if you want funding, it pays to be trashy.

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            They aren’t just racist, They also hate the poors and basically anyone that isn’t them.

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          Bundling of their stuff into the base installation, I suppose. With simple math, if 1password gets like 33k subscription payments, that’s about $100 000 already.

          Omarchy got perhaps a 100K installations just last month.

          They’re buying customers and visibility with a sum that’s probably pocket change for them.

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      I think we all know why. Whether having money causes racism, or it just so happens that racists are the ones with the money and they’re good at keeping it “In The Family” so to speak is kind of tangential and academic. It’s the hateful bigots that have the cash to fund big things, so if you want funding, it pays to be trashy.

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      Very seldom is something funded that “deserves” it. The answer is that its’ creator (DHH) is very wealthy and connected.

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      That’s the thing about real world. People don’t ask for permission to do things.

      If you think you can do better, who’s stopping you?

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    1Password does not endorse hateful, dehumanizing, or exclusionary views, including those shared publicly by DHH.

    Except… ya just did. Big 'ol cashy money endorsement.

    Or did you forget about that already? Because we didn’t.

    Art / artist.

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    “popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.”

    I’ve literally never heard of it.

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      I’ve seen a handful of videos about it recently that have been pushed into my algorithm. There’s definitely a campaign to get it out to influencers. Never heard of it prior to this week.

      It’s just a fork of Arch, with tiling, that’s been slop coded with AI. Something anyone could recreate without AI in a couple hours if they’re familiar with Arch.

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      It’s yet another distro being shilled by god knows who on YouTube and other social media.

      The fact that it’s being pushed so hard without anything of note about it is already suspicious to me.

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      I’ve heard the name but have not spent the time to find out what it is. I thought it was some immutable distro. I think the same about bazzite and catchy (sp?) which are other distros I see mentioned from time to time and believe are immutable and flatpak-y and that’s all I know. I realise I’m just one data point but I never see a lot about these sorts of distros in my general browsing.

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      I only know of it because I was on Distro Watch this week looking for top mention distros I never heard of. The mentions position is likely because of this donation. lol

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        It’s virtually unknown in the Linux world too. It’s literally something they made up overnight and are trying to astroturf.

        I’d say “what a time to be alive” to see the day someone considers it worth astroturfing a Linux distro, except there’s probably some nefarious shit behind it.

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        I’m not OP but yeah, basically. People who are passionate about a specific topic will know what’s up in that area.

        I can name half a dozen of the most popular Arch-based distros off the top of my head because… they’re actually well-known. Meaning they’ve been around for years, I’ve used several personally and can argue their pros and cons, and they feature prominently in objective lineups like the Steam Hardware Survey. Omarchy is none of these things.

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      yeah this is like a bunch of other internet things where I kinda hate it even seeing it. for me its not a thing of interest.

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    Well damn, guess I’ll be cancelling and switching when my subscription renews. Suggestions for replacement?

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        Is that a FOSS thing? Never done that before. Are there decent guides for getting it set up?

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          It’s FOSS and easy to set up. KeePass simply stores everything in a file and you use Syncthing to sync this file between devices. Syncing is optional, if you just need you password on desktop you don’t need it.

          KeePass has pretty bad UX when compared with Bitwarden though. Bitwarden/Vaulwarden is the best solution IMHO but it’s really difficult to set up.

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            Syncthing is great, but can be a bit of a pain in the ass to set up. I wish they’d make that process easier, and maybe also support sharing the ignore file between the hosts…

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        Unique passwords and MFA in the one package. Cross platform so I can use on phone and PC. Costs like $10/year. Also locks the credential and passkey to set URLs so phishing attacks are harder.

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        So that every service I use can have a randomly generated, unique password. Therefore if one of them gets hacked and my password leaked, brute-forced, or decrypted, it won’t affect any other service.

        Plus it stores passkeys and handles 2fa code generation, keeping them synced on all my devices, and ensures I never have to remember specific passwords because they’re all safely stored in heavily encrypted vaults guarded by the only single password I do have to remember. Also it notifies me if any of my information is in any breaches, or if I could do better to secure my account.

        Trust me when I say, it’s safer, simpler, and smoother way to manage things.

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        It’s so that you can have unique, randomized, rotating passwords for every service you have. Also, they auto fill fields for you, and can save you from spoofed URLs if you’re not paying attention. Highly recommend getting one. Bitwarden is good.

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    I already wasn’t gonna use either, but now I’m not gonna use either even harder.

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    How the fuck is Omarchy “popular”? I’ve been on Linux going on a decade, give or take, and I first knew about it when someone here in Lemmy mentioned that Dell and some other shit companies were proton a few millions on it.

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    I’ve emailed their customer service explaining why I’ll be dropping them as soon as my subscription renews.

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    I wouldn’t have heard of Omarchy if not for the controversies of its creator. So yeah that is one way to become popular.

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      Controversy? Never.

      Sick thing is, you can say the most outrageous shit, and since you have a direct pipeline to billions of people online, you’ll always find some fumb ducks to pay you.

      Welcome to the post-MLM economy! You don’t even influence people, you just say what they want to hear, and they’ll influence others for you! Jesus christ.

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    Nonetheless, it seems the company has sacrificed a moral position for a “mission-driven” position. In the same message to staff, Faugno says “the scale and growth of [Omarchy’s] use among our customers is significant - Omarchy has grown to be the second most used Linux distribution among 1Password users."

    I didn’t know Omarchy existed until, like, yesterday, so this is surprising. Do 1Password users just tend not to use Linux, so second place isn’t many users?

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      I feel like this has to be made up, downstream repack distros almost never show up on the top 10 usage stats. You will always see Ubuntu way ahead of Kubuntu.

      Not to mention 1Password is a pretty popular enterprise app and I have yet to see some insane sysadmin actually roll with arch as their distro of choice. Most are probably on RHEL or some other enterprise derivative.

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          That piece of information seems like key context. 1Password didn’t just give money simply because they like the product. More or less, it’s product placement in return for funding.

          I’m on the fence if that’s better or worse.

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          Ah didn’t realize it came preinstalled lol.

          spoiler

          Prepackaged “superior” arch distro and the best they could come up with was 1Password? seriously lol?

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            1Password is the best they could come up with when “best” is measured in dollars contributed.

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          I said somewhere else that giving money to a distro won’t even have an ROI, but I didn’t know about this. If the distro is promoting their product that’s a whole other thing.

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          Terrible security record?

          Of the items listed in your link, only the second one seems problematic, in that I wish they had discovered the (non-password but still privacy related) issues first. Even that section acknowledges all of the issues are fixed. The only section that makes it sound like there is still a problem is the last one, which states that version X still contains the vulnerabilities, but in reality that’s just how versions work. Patching a vulnerability creates a new version.

          Is there ANY record of passwords being leaked from 1password because of their own lack of security??

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            The pattern is this: First, they find out who to hate. Second, they find reasons to hate. Third, if they cannot find any reasons, they make them up.

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          lol what. 1Password literally has one of the best security records out there. They’re the ones actually inventing new more secure ways of doing things. The fact that those are all of the issues over the years and they’re one of the most popular pw managers on the planet is pretty indicative of how strong their security actually is. And they’ve never had a password breach, unlike lastpass.

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      I haven’t checked but I would guess that 1password comes pre-installed in Oligarchy and they’re counting every user that loads the client as a “user.”

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        Isn’t that a commercial product for which great open source alternatives exist? What kind of distro does that?

        And don’t they also preinstall Basecamp, DHH’s own company’s product?

        Maybe it’s all just a vehicle for product placement.

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          What kind of distro does that?

          One that does not care at all about having maintaining a sane and open ecosystem. Where there’s money to make, they will prey down quickly. Now that people are somewhat convinced that Linux based systems can work and actually attract the general public, a whole new market is ripe for reaping.