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Republicans routed as Democrats gain powerful new leverage over Trump for remainder of his presidency
Democrats have regained control of the US Senate, routing Republicans nationwide with historic victories that will give them powerful new leverage over Donald Trump for the remainder of his presidency.
Democrats will soon have the ability to hold up not just Trump’s legislative agenda, but also any appointments he makes to his cabinet or the federal judiciary – including the supreme court, where conservatives have a 6-3 majority.
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See everyone? Voting works.
Voting hasn’t done shit yet but put their asses on seats. Let’s check again in two years and see how they’ll have ridden this blue wave.
Let’s be real, even stymieing Trump’s agenda, which is a certainty already, is progress.
If all the D’s manage to do with a majority is stymie, the fascists have already won.
Massive investigations and the promise of criminal prosecution for all traitors and corruption are the bare minimum.
Yes, the fascists won in 2024…
D’s only have a narrow majority now. That’s only enough to reject R legislation. It’s not enough to override a veto and it’s not enough to remove him from office.
I didn’t say that they should waste time trying to remove Trump. I said investigations and the promise of executing those criminal prosecutions, so that 2028 is a referendum on prosecuting every pedophile, con artist, lobbyist, traitor, and war criminal associated with fascism; especially the ultra wealthy and their CEO’s.
The next two years should be filled with building and documenting the evidence, so that an antifascist DOJ can start excising the rot from all branches of society on day 1.
I am a pessimist because of intelligence, but an optimist because of will. (Antonio Gramsci)
It’s already done more than the alternative. Doing something with the power is secondary to getting the chance to in the first place.
If no one showed up tonight, there wouldn’t even be that chance.
If the Democrats screw it up, it still isn’t a referendum against voting.
We all remain tentative, but let’s enjoy this moment of hope
Cool, can we not have Schumer and Jeffries be majority leaders please and thank you?
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Democrats got the Senate, the House… hell, even Texas is going blue. Thank you Trump for creating the biggest, most beautiful, strongest blue wave! 🌊🌊🌊
Texas is going so blue. Democrats won every statewide office and flipped the state House of Representatives. Never in my wildest dreams
I guess we finally found out what it would take to turn out the Latinos… A huge economic mess and literal gestapo.
The biglyest, bigger than bigly! It’s YUGE
Most hilarious is that all the redone maps actually went Democrat.
There was one stare where Republican government refused to redo maps, because they were afraid exactly this would happen. Guess they can say “told you so”.
That’s one of the down sides of gerrymandering. If the other side reaches a high enough level of turnout, it actually magnifies your loss.
The goal of gerrymandering is to create a greater number of “safe” districts. The tradeoff is sacrificing margin in each, which fundamentally doesn’t work if there’s a large enough turnout.
Also, fuck the Supreme Court of Virginia.
Gerrymandering creates a damn where you can lose a few points and keep all your seats, but if you lose a few more, the damn breaks and all the seats get washed away.
Some of them were built with the shift in Latino votes being assumed.
Congratulations yankees you won an election, now you have to still go out and force them to actually be accountable otherwise this means absolutely nothing
Yeah, now the hard work begins. Hopefully all the mobilization and coalition building done to get us here can keep the momentum going.
And for fuck’s sake they have to oust Schumer and Jeffries if we want to get anything done without Israel’s interference.
With this large of a pool you will probably have a pretty guaranteed spot for speaker since they can tolerate a lot of no votes. If things don’t go well you can expect a speaker change within a year.
Since so many Dems are still owned by corps and Israel, this majority isn’t really a majority.
We will see how much theatre they are willing to do to look like the good guys without actually doing anything or stopping trump.
In the meantime, I’m enjoying watching Trump try to spin this.
He’s already tried in the last couple weeks to tell voters to pretend he is on the ballot but is now claiming that because he wasn’t on the ballot they didn’t vote for him. They DID vote massively against him but he will never acknowledge that. Now will just have to wait to see how obstructionist he will be. Hope some GOP Senators that kept their seats will see that they need to help make things better for Americans or they could still be on the chopping block in 2 years. Aiding Trump is what got so many GOP turfed yesterday.
I hope a lot of his lackeys are getting real nervous about criminal charges.
This was a huge victory, but it’s Gettysburg, not Appomattox. It’s a turning point, but it’s not over.
I was expecting a “medium good” day for the Democrats, with maybe a House majority and a 50/50 Senate split leaving it in the hands of JD’s tiebreaker. This is beyond anything I could in good faith predict
Tell me about it. I was very worried about shenanigans. But the voters of America turned out in big enough numbers to bone that.
So was I. I am so very happy to be wrong. It seems like they mightve bought into their own hype again and thought theyd win?
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So much damn negativity. Can some of y’all be optimistic for like five fucking minutes?
Yeah, fuck that. I was optimistic when Biden got in and then that old fool slow walked the easiest court cases that were to be cased in a court. I’m not falling for it again.
After over ten years of Drumpf, and dealing with other us shit that was generally tied to that fat fucking cunt, then maybe you can forgive the rest of the world for not believing a damned thing is actually going to change.
Obviously there’s some congratulations for getting out and voting against that regime, but those congratulations are marred by the facts that the whole of the us should’ve done that in 2016 and again in 2024. It should be the basic standard to not vote for the corrupt or Nazis. And definitely not corrupt Nazis, but that happened… TWICE.
Plus other than this little blip then Epstein’s rape buddy still hasn’t felt any real consequences for the decades of illegal shit.
Also when I realised you peeps had voted like you did I immediately thought “that orange imbecile will now act even more deranged to fuck loads more things up, then pardon everyone, and himself, and nothing more will be done about it.” Because nothing has ever been done for all those other many blatant crimes.
It’s a good start. I’ll give you that. But it is only a start. A very tiny inkling of a start.
If you truly want others to start looking for positivity and optimism then start charging the Nazis and Nazi enablers with their crimes. Make them sweat.Again, congratulations. You’ve got a tiny bit of momentum so now do some good with it.
The anti-trans rhetoric coming out of Dem candidates and incumbents is still terrifying to a lot of my LGBT+ friends. After Palestine, people have shown human rights are optional and a negotiable stance.
While any such rhetoric is bad, and it was loud and made headlines, it was only a couple candidates.
This is very much NOT “both sides the same”
What amount does it count as bad, because I would say more than a couple does. Here’s a list of Democrat candidates that have either said or voted against trains rights.
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/the-guide-to-anti-trans-democrats
As well the concern is that the strategists and think tanks these parties will rely on will see that trans rights are a dead issue and pivot them away from them.
If it’s any consolation; we get Democrat presidents. But a blue Texas? We haven’t had that in over thirty years. We’re allowed to be optimistic, hell my mental health needs it at this point. That doesn’t mean we should become docile and naive, there is still lots of work to be done. But for now, I’m going to take a break and celebrate.
Kansas is sending a D to Washington for the first time in over 100 years.
Kansas.
If you’re not really familiar with American politics, you might not realize what that signals. It means that large swaths of the country - the types of places which were taken utterly for granted as ruby red for generations, and treated as a foregone conclusion in every single election - have been hurt so badly by their own party that they were willing do anything to cast off the GOP. Including voting for a Democrat.
If you know what American conservatives are actually like, then you can understand the magnitude of this. It’s Earth-shattering. These are people who, just two years ago, would have told you quite earnestly that they’d rather eat a shit sandwiches every day for 10 years, then die of syphilis and go directly to Hell than ever pull the lever for D. Many of them have espoused the view that the GOP is the party of God (the Christian one) and they mean that quite literally.
I don’t think anyone can say what the ultimate result of that will be, or if it will even be good. But that doesn’t mean we can’t look at what transpired last night and appreciate for a moment just how huge, weird and crazy it actually is!
That negative hate bullshit is half the problem out there. Countrymen unite! Follow the sun! Say “hello” to a stranger. Pick up a piece of trash and put it in a receptacle. There are better days ahead for those that are not even close to wearing rose coloured glsses.
Problem is the US voted Trump and Republicans twice in the last 10 years. There is a feeling of temporary relief. Here is hoping for at least 6 years of dem control.
Thank you! Bunch of cynical armchair analysts in here. I’m a Texan. Anyone who’s downplaying these election results don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about. This is huge for us. No, it’s not full-blown anarcho-communism, but God damn let us celebrate our much-needed, long overdue W!
Since Trump has been following the Nazi playbook so well, I’m more concerned when his Kristalnacht will be against Dems and what will be the orchestrated catalyst.
I’m always optimistic, I just base my optimism around the actuality of revolution. The fact that Democrats won the midterms doesn’t suddenly fix the problems with capitalism that have led the US to this point to begin with, nor can it. The Democrats are nearly as unpopular as the Republicans are with the people. Socialism is still necessary, which still requires revolution.
Neither Cuba nor Palestine will be free from the genocide inflicted upon them from the US. This midterm cycle, many anti-trans Democrats won seats, and the party is shifting away from supporting the LGBTQIA+ community. The state and economy will continue to be dominated by billionaires, and the people will still go without.
We must never lose sight of the fact that revolution is not only necessary, but actually possible, and it requires a mass revolutionary socialist party and mass class consciousness, coupled with a crisis in the capitalist class. The first two are directly in our control. Get organized.
many anti-trans Democrats
My search found three. That’s too many of course but definitely not “many” nor enough to tar and feather the party with. It’s three
3 is as you said, too many. The party should be tarred and feathered because of many things, including their support of the genocide in Palestine and Cuba, and the fact that billionaires own the Democrats. A working class solution is needed.
It’s still important to be angry and push these people who just got elected to actually be effective in their jobs.
Many are paid not to be.
Democrats are paid to be optimistic and not deliver
You want an idea of how insane this one is? Sure, Kansas didn’t go solid blue like Texas, but understand, the last time they had a Dem senator was 1932. You gotta screw up bad to lose Kansas to a Democrat.
Sadly, this probably means it’ll flip back in a few years. I’ll still take the win.
You know you are upset for something a few years in advance? Didn’t they just win?
That’s not a sure thing. In places that are solidly one party control a lot of voters stay home. This win could cause the Dems to wake up in Kansas and realize their state is competitive. Voter turnout will only increase, which always helps the Dems.
Back in those days the democrats were the conservatives.
Democrats have basically Congress, Senate and House.
Trump is fucked. If Democrats want to mean everything they say to voters. Get rid of that asshole as soon as possible. Don’t even give him the satisfaction of the last 2 years of his term.
Dems can not get Trump out. They would need 60+ in the Senate for removal. They would need at least 5 Rs for that. Impeach him one more time by all means but he WILL stay President.
Dems should focus instead on passing legislation, blocking all Trump appointments and reversing every single EO from the White House.
Investigations. Learn from the flacid Biden attempts and do better.
Agree totally. ‘The most uneducated buffoon in history stands at a podium, bloated with self-importance, lips pursed like a carnival barker ready to sell turd milk to the unsuspecting. He grins a grotesque smirk stretched across his face as he scrawls his name onto a hollow decree, a sham celebration of the dismantling of knowledge itself. The Department of Education falls, not with a bang, but with wheezing verbs, suffocated under the weight of his own staggering ignorance. Surrounding him are the usual suspects: cowards in expensive suits, servile sycophants clapping like trained seals, and racist opportunistic ghouls picking clean the bones of democracy. Liars, fools, and thieves all parasites fattening themselves on the hardships of the many. They stand in rigid formation, dead-eyed and soulless, their allegiance sworn not to country, not to principle, but to power, and the dark, festering rot that clings to it. And there he is the convicted wrong, the living embodiment of septic tank spew, his voice a noxious fog of grift and grievance. He lectures the world on right and wrong, irony clawing at the walls, desperate to escape the grotesque theatre of his moral void. The stomach turns, the air curdles, and for a moment, history itself recoils watching, in horror, as the great American experiment teeters on the precipice, led by a man who couldn’t spell “precipice” if his life depended on it.’
You, I love you.
The only way Trump gets removed from office is if a significant number of Republicans flip on Trump and try to distance themselves and the party from MAGA and his policies leading up to 2028 election. With the current state of things that seems highly unlikely though things could change over the next 18 months that would push the GOP distance themselves enough the current admin to support his removal. Though if the last 10 years have been any indication, there isn’t anywhere near enough backbone for them to turn against the far right.
They could make it happen if they use the Epstein files as a wedge. There was lots of republican support for that, why not leverage that to get him kicked out?
The Epstein files are the most likely mechanism at the moment, for sure. And with the Dems in control of Congress, there’s an opportunity to make them much, much for visible to the American people. It sounds like there’s some pretty sickening stuff in there that directly implicates Trump. With enough attention, it is possible that his support within the GOP collapses. Especially given his diminished standing following this elections.
I’m not sure I’d bet on anything happening, but it’s certainly more likely than it was when the GOP controlled Congress.
I sincerely hope that the dems are willing to play “dirty” at this point and out all of the files that implicate Trump the second they are sworn in. And if Trump can somehow block it, let him dig his own grave. Leak the files. Do what you have to do to sink him even more.
They have a rare opportunity to basically get a free win in the 2028 election after all that Trump’s done. Please let them take it and not fart around like old man Schumer always does.
That would be against protocol or precedent. Lets heal the country or some BS.
Gotta get one more to trounce the fetterman effect. He ain’t no Democrat.
We are now Fetterproof
NBC is getting ready to call Maine for Democrats.
Now hunt them down. There is no time tolouse.
Musk will already be preparing to flee the country. These people are cowards, russian agents, traitors.
Why? The Dems are the same “people” as Musk and that and the wealthy don’t suffer any consequences.
People like you are so utterly insufferable I can barely find words to describe it.
You must have not followed the election last night. The night was a big win for progressive and socialist candidates. Sure some old guard democrats won as well, but this was not your normal election.
Well, it’s their chance to prove you right or wrong
To hunt them down they will need to go on, as the French say, “le Trek”. /s
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Please issue sanctions against the US. Why haven’t you??
We’re literally doing to Palestine worse than y’all did to Congo. In 2026
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Hey, you can’t scapegoat leopold and forget that Belgium held on to and continued to exploit congo till the 60s. That’s less than a hundred years ago, your grandad was probably alive then.
Oh and Belgium got their first democratically elected leader lubumba assassinated. And you still regularly interfere in their politics.
Also in Belgium. You know that the Belgian army was in the Congo during that period? That means government support. The state literally gave him the money for his “purchase” and also paid propagandists to promote it. They also took it over in 1908 officially and continued to exploit them, enforcing an alpartheid, and kidnapped thousands of children. Our grandparents were literally the ones doing the kidnapping.
You know that belgian citizens cut off the hands of children and workers, mass raped women and children, and mass executed people in the Congo? We can’t hide and "b-b-but Leopold acted alone, it wasn’t Belgium" our way out of recent ancestors committing genocide. King Leopold never even went to the Congo.
This is exactly the same as saying “america didn’t elsave millions of african people, private people and companies did”. It still happened. The american government also aren’t the ones physically killing children in Gaza.
We don’t care so much about any “legislative agenda” Trump may have. We care about reining in the corruption, the abuses of authority, illegal executive orders. Will we get a Congress that actually does stuff, will it protect its own constitutional authority, and will it do something about those enriching themselves on their government authority. And that’s before even will government do things for its constituents rather than just its corporate donors.
Winning majorities is only the start
I can already hear my internalized Lemmy voice pointing out that we don’t win anything by choosing the friendly capitalists over the asshole capitalists, and that all the theater over corruption and bigotry are to distract from the only real war: the class war.
But I think you countered that best by saying it’s only a start.
Even if we assume that the US government will look like the best Europe has to offer within a few decades, it will take multiple steps to get there.
And you know what is definitely NOT a step in that direction? Giving the entire government to the fascist racist pedo bigot robber-baron party. We did that TWO years ago.
Not good enough. We need the supermajority and we need to reshape the Dem leadership, the Supreme Court, etc. we need to dominate the next several election cycles.
I just hope this decisive result is in part because the republicans and Trump are SO bad that they have driven people to wake the fuck up and choose a more noble worldview.
I just hope it’s something other than fuel prices. I really hope that this result would be vaguely similar if the Iran war never happened. Having hope in people again would feel neat.
People didn’t change for centuries and they will not change in the forseeable future. Of course it is the fuel prices.
Its important to understand the voters and why we will never achieve an utopian state although we would be capable of doing so in theory.
Yes, nothing says democracy like the need to dominate.
Democracy is a competition of ideas. Do you have a proposal for some form of democracy that does not use elections?
A less federalized government where states control their own destiny and the fed takes a back seat to domestic issues.
Still not my ideal though, just what seems most possible. Ideally we would unmake nation states and all self organize in small communes thst best reflects our values.
The very first democracy, in Athena, had no elections.
A random citizen was picked up and had the duty to be the ruler for a term. After his term he would face a trial to defend his politic had been for the interest of the city. The citizens’ judgement was still a kind of vote, but after the term, to decide if the previous leader deserve honor, nothing, or death.
A Compromitocracy.
Good. No more kid gloves. Bring his ass in and release the files. It’s what the people want.
