One more step toward authoritarian wet dreams.

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    They know that Antifa isn’t real. This way they can call anything Antifa and it’s now a terrorist that has no human rights.

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        The vast majority of these tweets allege that Soros is paying protestors to riot, and that he funds antifa. A smaller number claim that he plans to radicalize African Americans in order to undermine society and enable the globalist takeover of America, while some go so far as to claim that George Floyd’s death was actually a false flag deployed by Soros in order to precipitate the current crisis.

        White supremacists are so fucking stupid. And so fucking in charge of the USA.

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              Israel is required to exist for some interpretations of Armageddon in the Bible. They hate them, but they need Israel to exist because it’s central to moving forward with the end of the world and their gods cleansing of the forces of evil and the ushering in of a new world order.

              So keep that fun fact in mind when you hear Christians being really pro Israel.

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                Christianity - A doomsday cult so committed to fulfilling prophecy that they’ll kill all of us for the chance to prove their interpretation of God has a bigger dick than every other deity ever conceived. /s

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                  To make it even more WTF, the religions they have the most issue with don’t even have a different diety, just different people saying he told them an updated message on the rules of life.

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              Israel is pretty great for anti-Semites; it’s a “somewhere else” to send all the Jews (with much better optics than Auschwitz) and it’s also pure fucking evil, and has its fingers all through many other governments, making their nutjob conspiracy theories actually look plausible sometimes.

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                Yeah, the actions of Israel are the number one cause of antisemitism in the world.

                People who don’t know better start at accurate descriptions and righteous outrage over the atrocities committed by the IOF and the Knesset and the rage bait algorithms of social media take them down rabbit holes that lead to the actually antisemitic nonsense.

                Hell, even if you know enough to avoid that, it’s sometimes hard to not be instinctively prejudiced against all Israeli people even if you’re not an antisemite.

                Given that the vast majority of the population has been successfully brainwashed by decades of government indoctrination into thinking of all Palestinians as subhuman threats to their lives and thus are in favor of the oppression as long as the Israeli casualties are kept to a minimum, I must admit that I sometimes struggle with it myself…

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              As S. Ansky said ca. 1900 in his poem In Zaltsikyn Yam, [translated] “We (Jews) have heard this story before from our enemies, ‘A ghetto for the eternal kyke.’”

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      Antifa is very real. They started fighting the Nazis in Germany. Today we fight fascists all over the world.

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        It feels weird that people say that “antifa isn’t real”. There’s tons of groups using that name and symbols while doing Antifa type stuff. It’s just not a singular organization but rather a loose collection of separate groups.

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      Individuals associated with and acting on behalf of Antifa further coordinate with other organizations and entities for the purpose of spreading, fomenting, and advancing political violence and suppressing lawful political speech.  This organized effort designed to achieve policy objectives by coercion and intimidation is domestic terrorism.

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    Pretty safe to say America is officially, explicitly, pro-fascism, then? Does this qualify us for any refugee status or something?

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      I think there’s ground for it honestly.

      Even before, but now it can be argued even more easily.

      Were I American, I’d definitely leave before it gets uglier (it will). I wish all my fellow « antifa » Americans strength in the times to come. You guys are gonna need it 😞

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        Leaving is, unfortunately, a lot easier said than done. The easiest method is probably getting a foreign employer to sponsor a work visa, and that’s not an easy pathway. Other ways are harder.

        Don’t get me wrong, I have an escape plan in mind if push comes to shove and Canada starts accepting asylum claims from trans and nonbinary people, but uprooting everything to change countries is prohibitively expensive for almost everyone.

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          I guess it is. I’m really sorry to read that. Good luck to you all!

          Most of our countries will soon fall for the fascist agenda pushed by the billionaires anyway, so I’m not even sure if there’ll really be a place to run to….

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            Thank you, I appreciate it! We’re going to need all the luck we can get…

            I hope that other countries can look at what’s happening here now and learn what not to do, rather than follow in our footsteps

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      Yeah, there’s already a rise of Americans from persecuted groups seeking asylum in Canada, Europe, and elsewhere.

      With the rise of fascism, the US has increasingly become unsafe for marginalized people to the point that many are legitimately qualified for asylum in safer countries and it’s going to get much worse before it (hopefully, but not very likely soon) gets any better.

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        This would be time for Canada to rip up the safe third country agreement and start letting Americans claim political refugee status

        Edit: for those who don’t know, the STCA means Canada only accepts refugees if we are the first “safe country” they enter. Since Canada still considers the US a safe democracy, American citizens / people entering from the US cannot claim refugee status

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        Why does Newsweek care about this .00007 percent of the population who want higher taxes, worse health care, and anti-American trade policies?" White House Deputy Press Secretary Anna Kelly told Newsweek.

        Ugh, I remember when our government would have acted like adults and just said “no comment” when Newsweek reached out to them.

        These people are insolent fucking children

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    So everybody who fought in WWII is now classified as a terrorist since they were fighting fa(cism).

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      It’s like the war against DEI. They say the acronym because if they say “I’m against diversity, equality and inclusion” they look like assholes

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      It’s not a distraction, it’s a bigger deal!

      Stop it! We know he’s a pedophile who raped trafficked children, and we know the files won’t be released.

      This is more pressing. You’re distracting from it with your tired meme.

      ANTIFA isn’t an organized group, it’s a term to identify yourself as “anti fascist”, and now that nets you a bullshit terrorism charge. People will start getting arrested and questioned about very mild anti trump sentiments and be charged with bullshit terrorism charges.

      This is a crackdown on the remaining freedom of expression you can get away with. This is a huge deal.

      Activists will be arrested and physically beat over this, we’ve seen this movie before in other authoritarian dictatorship struggling for power before. You’ll soon be dragged into a van and stomped on for posting that stupid meme, but you’re not posting it ironically, it’s actually your main concern.

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        Out a here with your defeatism.

        He didnt win the election.

        He tried and failed to cancel Kimmel.

        This is not like hitler. This is a schoolyard bully that’s massively overplaying his hand.

        Fuck off with they wont be released. They will be, and it will be the end of him.

        Yes, it is a big deal, but it fits his agenda to constantly shock and awe so we forget. And no, the majority of his base thinks he’s an angel.

        Releasing the files and footage is the card that when removed, lots of dominos will topple.

        People have the power, but not when defeatist shit like this gets upvoted.

        /rant

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          What makes you so confident they will be released? Or that if they are - it’s the end? This isn’t defeatism, I’ve just watched this story play out multiple times now on multiple topics, and frankly his supporters and enablers couldn’t seem to give a shit.

          There’s always an excuse, or it’s never “that bad”, or maybe a mouthpiece will spin the victims deserved it and the believers eat it up.

          I simply wish I had half this optimism as I’m asking legitimately, what hope are you holding for with such confidence?

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            I’ve seen a few high profile pedophile cases play out in the past.

            Dissent is growing within his own ranks. Staples like Tucker, MTG, Nancy Mace, and a bunch of the core maga lunatics are peeling away from this and supporting the release. Moderate republicans like Massie are not dancing to his tune either.

            He’s going too fast and hard with his coup. Hitler took 7 years, he has to complete all his moves before November next year, or they will have impeachment and removal before the end of January 2027.

            Every thing they are doing is fast, corrosive but therefore also sloppy. They have forgotten about liberal moles that they forgot to fire at several departments. A bunch of the hardcore sycophants hires are very sensitive around pedophiles. If even one of them was someone who had to go through the files at the fbi to see if trump was in it, they have a massive problem if these people come forward during the impeachment hearings.

            If it’s bad enough, the MTG faction that got rid of the last Speaker could file articles of impeachment before the midterms and have the Dems and the CrazyCaucus™ vote together to impeach. This is a crucial part for any regime collapse: the fringe of the ruling regime having the same concerns and passion as the opposition. The most extreme MAGA in the house and the progressive caucus of the Dems is basically aligned on this issue.

            Anyone with an understanding for successful authoritarian transitions knows that this is not how you do it. Anyone with an understanding of how pedophiles get scorched by the populace once irrefutable evidence is found, can see he’s strong-marching on a very thin branch.

            He may look more organised than the first term, but once the economic reality hits hard around xmas from all his tariff crap, and he loses donor support, things will get a lot harder.

            The files are a very core part of his most cult part of his base. His base will support him a lot less passionately, every day he doesn’t release them.

            The Epstein Files is how we bring him down, because it has the broadest base of support across an artificially divided population.

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        Sounds like the kind of thing they would want to do to slow down the release of the Epstein files!

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          Jesus Christ! I’m asking you to be out in the streets with pitchforks demanding the pedophile in chief be ousted before you have no more freedoms to even make silly memes…

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              I’m sorry? You’ve been doing that? Who’s we and where?

              There’s been pockets of small scale protests like in California, but you haven’t been doing that everywhere and at the required scale at all! It’s not working because only a tiny fraction of people give a shit, everyone is apathetic and I’ve literally been told “at least we’re on the side with the guns”.

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                We’ve had the largest protests in American history if not world history over this. The streets were flooded in New york just within the past week. It’s not working because nonviolent protest just isn’t effective.

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      Jesus fuck, not everything is a distraction from Epstein. There is a lot of other bad shit they’re doing simply because they’re fascists, no ulterior motive required.

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    Is Antifa even a group? Like, do they send out newsletters or some shit? Can you buy a hat? Vote for leadership roles?

    I thought it was more of a political belief. Wouldn’t that just be calling all left wingers terrorists?

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    Well, considering ANTIFA doesn’t exist, I’d say it’s pretty safe to say they’re doing this so they can label anyone they don’t like as ANTIFA and disappear them.

    Everyone should be arming themselves and helping everyone they know arm themselves.

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    Congratulations everyone! We are all now domestic terrorists if we don’t agree with nazi’s and the fascist government we have!

    Thanks republicans! You got what you wanted! Free speech for right wing extremists, and everyone else is labeled a terrorist who can be sent to a concentration camp with zero due process!

    All law and order is now gone, our economy is quickly crashing, and the job market is destroyed. Just as Donald Trump told his voter base he would accomplish, he actually did it. I give Project 2025 more credit than i did before. They streamlined us into Fascist US in less than a year!