Never heard of the guy and both apple and meta can suck my infected boils.
“Design philosophy” may be the one type of philosophy even more useless than actual philosophy.
“Design is not just how it looks. Design is how it.” -Alan
Words to live by.
Bastard ruining technology through one company moves to ruin technology through another company.
RIP Bozo, you won’t be missed
EDIT : People seem to be interpreting this as me hating on that guy. I’m hating on apple and facebook. Fuck them both, all this shithead has done is gone from one company fucking up technology (apple) and gone to another company fucking up technology (facebook)
You can’t ruin what was never good.
apple was known for making excellent UX, that’s the main reason their products are successful. It Just Works™. (well, that and status symbol)
the problems started before version 26, but i don’t think there’s been an apple software release that botched in a while
apple was known for making excellent UX,
It honestly baffles me how people can say this with a straight face. Iphone’s UX is abysmal.
You open something, and to go back from it you… Look around the screen for clues! Sometimes, you have to swipe down. Sometimes swipe left. Sometimes tap the background. Sometimes tap the top-left corner. Other times, the top-left corner. Unless it’s not just the top-left, it’s the “toppest-leftest”, a small little indicator on the very edge of the screen.
Whereas on Android you go back by tapping the “back” button, or swiping left/right from the edge of the screen (making the gesture ambidextrous). The only exception to this rule is when you’re using an app that was lazily ported from iOS…
He’s talking about before the iPhone
Taking your files and randomising where they go is not good UX.
Having all your windows explode because you moved your mouse to the corner is not good UX.
Having a mouse be completely unusable when charging is not good UX
But see, you are obviously not the target user.
The target user doesn’t understand that file heirarchy exists. They’ve never opened a folder. They need to put their mouse in the corner because they have 5 million files on the desktop. They prefer the charging port to be on the bottom because it looks prettier that way. That is the target user.
I think he’s talking about how Meta was never good.
I also don’t think Apple was ever good.
Interesting to look at the votes on this thread. Especially on Lemmy.
I dont have a meaningful takeaway.
Yeah the Human Interface Guidelines were the precursor to design systems, and for a little while, design/ux really was front and center and that influence and patterns that worked spread through software projects and products. Nowadays sadly UX always takes a back seat to capitalizing on attention, and capitalism in general.
Edit: It’s important to remember that Apple was writing 350 page interface books in 1992. They pioneered “look and feel.”
https://dl.acm.org/doi/book/10.5555/573097
Nowadays those questions are like
“Did the user make a purchase? How many ads did they see in 15 seconds? Are they still scrolling? How much data have you collected?”
that edit turned a downvote to an upvote, good work.
I was curious about the quote, but it got jpegged away :(
It’s a Steve Jobs quote:
“Design is not just what it looks like and feels like. Design is how it works.”
Damn. Truly a visionary I must say. Nobody ever thought to think of a design in terms of how something works before
No but seriously though, I don’t really get this quote. Isn’t that… obvious?
For Apple? No, it isn’t. Which is why we got the incredible air phone or whatever that shit was.
They make quality stuff, but it’s always been about vanity. Drives me nuts how much some people are religious about their shit.
Their shit like iPad and macbook, for creative work. There are no efficient alternatives.
That’s just wrong.
I hope you have something better than an android tablet paired with windows laptop for that job.
ohhh, so Microsoft is bad at design, I was trying to pinpoint exactly what was so fucked up with their shit
because seriously how the fuck does nothing Microsoft just work anymore
even notepad was enshittified, I just learned there’s fucking copilot in notepad. I’m trying to hold out on Win10 at work, but they’re also making OneDrive trigger BSODs a few times a day now…
Steve Jobs on them: https://youtu.be/3KdlJlHAAbQ
TBF Microsoft also don’t know how to make things look and feel right. For ages, their primary UI design tools were a toolbar crammed with buttons end to end, a vertical list crammed with items, and a table crammed with items row by row — culminating in Windows 8’s tiles. MS didn’t understand that people need spatial organization, spacing and margins, and only recently started separating toolbar buttons with white space in their apps.
Meanwhile principles of grouping are any designer’s most basic tools. One could make good design with sticks and mud if they follow the principles.
Good riddance. Now stop hiding buttons.
He went to Meta, now you can expect every button on Instagra/Facebook other than “see ad” to be hidden
Now that he’s gone can they roll back to Material? Please?
Material is Google’s design language
Whatever it was before, go back.
Read their design guide when I was learning proper UI/UX design and there was a lot of detail on how designing it to be simple and intuiting how users used the interface. Not putting options behind a ton of sub menus, making buttons a certain size, what feedback is expected, how best to make notifications readable, etc. It’s like they threw out everything and said fuck it.
Some options hidden under submenus are just almost never used
Maybe you select some text on iOS and clearly your first instinct is going to be to do something with Apple Intelligence. What are the chances you would want to look the text up? Like zero so that’s an extra tap
(Uhg)
PS: retesting this now, maybe it got better with 26.1
My “favorite” thing in iOS is when you’re composing an email and want to insert a photo. You press and hold to get a context menu, then you tap the right arrow on the context menu a few times until you get “insert photo” (because apparently inserting a photo in an email is the last thing you’d ever want to do). Easy enough (lol) except that the right arrow changes position every time you tap it because the width of the context menu changes based on the width of the text options, so you’re likely to tap outside the menu and dismiss it accidentally. For bonus points, I get to watch my 90-year-old mother with long fingernails try to do this.
Should have gone one OS earlier. 😒
Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced that Dye will lead a new creative studio within the company’s AR/VR division Reality Labs.
Sweet, now he can actually achieve his fantasy of becoming a glazier in VR.
The famous metaverse, billions spent with 0 users
Lol good luck getting boomers to look at grey text on light grey backgrounds
this is a partial rewrite of an older meme captioned “if apple really had courage”
Gruber reallly just loved him
https://www.macrumors.com/2025/12/04/john-gruber-on-alan-dye/
…and then he Dyed.
